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ppaik

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There is some kind of fee described in the user agreement. I tried reading but I am way too tired tonight...will try again tomorrow.
 

Daniel

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Oct 10, 1999
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This is there too, ouch..
. Acceptance of Terms of Use. After you have registered with the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service as a registered user (a "User") of the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service at the Premium Service Level, you will be assessed a charge for your use of the HyperSpy Premium Service Level of the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service at a rate that will be determined by the HyperSpy from time to time. In addition, you will be assessed charges for services that are provided to you by the HyperSpy from time to time, in addition to the services that are provided under the basic fee described in the preceding sentence, at the then current rates as determined by the HyperSpy in its discretion. You will be requested by the HyperSpy as a condition to your receiving services at the Premium Service Level, and you agree, to provide the HyperSpy with a valid credit card number against which the HyperSpy may bill charges incurred or to be incurred by you or by the HyperSpy on your behalf. You acknowledge that your failure to so provide a valid credit card number, or your failure to maintain credit availability for such credit card number, shall be a cause for termination of your service under the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service. BY COMPLETING THE REGISTRATION PROCESS AND CLICKING THE "I ACCEPT" BUTTON, YOU ARE INDICATING YOUR AGREEMENT TO BE BOUND BY THESE TERMS OF USE. These Terms of Use are the entire agreement between you and HyperSpy with respect to the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service. HyperSpy is providing the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service as a service to you and its other customers through a subcontractor, and you agree that you shall not assert a claim of any sort against such subcontractor on account of the operation of the HyperSpy Unified Messaging Service.
 

So they are basically saying that they can set any price they want.
When they want.
And bill you when then want.
Seems kinda shady to me.
 

Jdog

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Oct 14, 1999
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Hmmm. Looks like you pay to be a member of their "Unified Messaging Service," and that the fee for it "varies from time to time." There doesn't appear to be anyone to contact or any customer service, so it looks a little dangerous. If you sign up, I'd use a CC you know will fight them to the death to stop unauthorized charges.

Telocity is their subcontractor.

Let us know if you go for it.
 

Herbman

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Nov 27, 1999
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Looks like an open ticket for them to charge what ever they want

"you agree, to provide the HyperSpy with a valid credit card number against which the HyperSpy may bill charges incurred or to be incurred by you or by the HyperSpy on your behalf."

Seems shady to me also
 

Madcowz

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Jul 23, 2000
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It did not mention ANYTHING about DSL after I signed up. They just gave me some phone number and an e-mail inbox and that's it. They didn't even require my phone number or e-mail address... How are they going to contact me about available and that sort?
 

Madcowz

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Jul 23, 2000
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umm, it didn't ask for any cc either... am I at the right place? I clicked on the "Free HYSPERSPY DSL" button and after signing up all I got was a new e-mail box
 

Hosack

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"HyperSpy is proud to offer our subscribers, free HyperSpy DSL service. This is a feature that will be released soon, so subscribe now to reserve your account. We will also offer free Dial-Up to those subscribers living in an area where DSL is not yet available. This is a feature that will be released soon."
Sounds like too many others we've already seen die.
 

Jdog

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Oct 14, 1999
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Whois:

Castle Enterprises Corporation (template COCO-577252)
gil@hyperspy.com
3639 South Upper Truckee Rd
South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150 USA

Domain Name: hyperspy.com
Status: production

Admin Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Gil Castillo (COCO-366045) cectrade@aol.com
530-573-1139 (FAX) 530-577-1721

CORE Registrar: CORE-28

Record last modified: 2000-07-13 13:02:35 MET by CORE-28
Record created: 2000-04-10 07:43:59 MET by CORE-28

Domain servers in listed order:

atlns01.webhosting.interliant.com 209.196.32.34
atlns02.webhosting.interliant.com 209.196.32.38

Database last updated on 2000-11-20 19:13:46 MET

To optimize query speed and answer correctness see the
--help option. Depending on your whois client use
whois -h whois.corenic.net HELP
or
whois HELP@whois.corenic.net

___________________________________________________________________________________________
Hmm. AOL email addy when the guys registered it. Sounds like a SOHO that probably won't deliever.
 

crazyman

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Aug 30, 2000
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i once almost signed up for "free" dsl from another site but after reading the entire 5+ page legal agreement it threw in a tiny sentence in the middle of a huge page saying that i agree to allow them to switch my long distance provider if they ever start to market their telephone service in my area. There was absolutely no mention of this anywhere else on the website anywhere and the company made no reference to them even having any telephone service offered...they marketed themselves as just a dls provider....long story short...if it sounds too good to be true (unless its instant rebates:)) it probably is....
 

DaFunBus

Junior Member
Aug 27, 2000
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Man I cant believe all these sneaky business practices. This is why I voted for Nader! =)
 

Jdog

Senior member
Oct 14, 1999
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And why would anyone count on anyone but oneself for protection? It took me about 3 seconds to figure out this was a bogus deal as I read the Terms & Conditions.
--Just a word of warning: don't count on politicians, any politicians to keep companies like hyperspy from scamming the crap out of people.