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Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

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Baltimore's mayor is a hypocrite bitch!

She first says she gave space to those who wished to destroy. Then latter on she says she never said it. She says it's the media's fault and that her words should not be twisted.

And here I thought Clinton was bad. Gesh.
 
The video shows a limp man being dragged into the police van.
Freddie Gray was most certainly killed by their handling of him.

Would you trust police to handle your friends and family?

My family's all Caucasian, so I would absolutely trust the cops with them, Caucasian people fall under the "protect" part. About half of my friends are of color and they fall under the "serve" part. I wouldn't trust cops to help them across the street.
 
I can see both sides.
Try to see both sides.
I can see where people have had enough and they feel society itself is hopeless and should be torn down to the pavement.
That is what happens when all hope is lost and those employed to serve and protect become an extension of the 1960's KKK.
Murdering. Coverup. No accountability. Injustice.

I'm reminded of Martin Luther King and King always spoke of non violence.
But here we are, some 50 years later, and for many out there not much has changed.
After 50 years people start to wonder, was King right?
Was MLK too assuming that society would change for the better?

Sure, for a lot of minorities things have changed in positive ways.
But in many communities with high poverty, the chances are better for a black man or woman to go to prison than to go to college.
And more money is spent on prisons than spent on education.
Or spent establishing those in poverty with a path for college.

Society prefers to toss food stamps and welfare at those in poverty, believing that is enough.
And we have idiots calling Obama the food stamp president.
Then, congress goes further by taking away their only lifeline like food stamps, also cutting education, and making it near impossible for the impoverished to have any chance for a decent education.
Yes, it is an ugly America out there for many.
For the poor, the minority, those having no hope.

Watching Fox News coverage, which I really should never do for the sake of mental health, I was appalled at how callous, clueless, and how absolutely detached from reality the Fox news anchors were.
They act as if poverty does not exist in America.
And they could not understand why or how any of those rioting could be driven to such extremes.
Because in their fox news world should that white kid be arrested, that kid never ends up with a bullet in the back, or a broken spinal cord, or beaten to death while in police custody.
No, never in the white world of the fox news viewer.
For their kids that would never happen.

Fox news can get so upset over something Obama has done or with Obamacare to the point of their justifying an all out civil war.
Or armed red neck gang violence should the government take action against some tax dogging white farmer land squatter living in Texas.
But, take that outraged member of an minority group after continuous injustice day in day out?
That violence and outrage is a concept that fox just can not grasp.

Things are really fucked up in America, and our elected officials are not helping the situation.
Our elected officials blatantly pass laws to suppress the vote, pass laws to dehumanize targeted people of our society, create class warfare, resist a decent wage, and then to add insult to injury promote heavily arming society to the point we must all fear one another.

Maybe in some third world government ran solely by religious ideology, that system might work. But not in our country Mr republican governor, congressman, presidential hopeful.
No, not in our America damn you dare.
 
Severe protests in Baltimore overnight. I found this the most interesting image for some reason:

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Can you imagine using that port hole? Terrible idea! Anybody who comes up can grab your arm and now you are kind of screwed.
 
Severe protests in Baltimore overnight. I found this the most interesting image for some reason:

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Can you imagine using that port hole? Terrible idea! Anybody who comes up can grab your arm and now you are kind of screwed.


Look closely at the window.

I swear that guy seems bored.
 
I didn't say that. Must you marginalize my opinion/questions by pretending like I'm saying we should riot and loot because we aren't getting answers? Btw, I have family and friends in Baltimore, so its not in my best interest to encourage mayhem. I just want answers as to why the cops keep getting away with shit.
Yes, you didn't say that, I said that. This is called 'conversing'. You say something and then I say something, each of us adding our own thoughts as the conversation moves along. 🙄
 
The media is pretty pathetic. In every case where it is "white on black" they go above and beyond to make it look as much like the one who was arrested or killed did nothing wrong. He was just running from the cops for no reason? Uh huh. He had a reason or else he wouldn't have ran. Once again all the person had to do was not commit a crime, and don't run. Without all the facts it is very hard to figure out what happened. Could he have been tackles and suffered an injury? Sure. Could he have not run and this wouldn't have happened? Absolutely. This is a tragedy, and one that could have been avoided by simply not doing anything stupid. But he ran. If evidence comes out that the police acted in the wrong, then they should be punished. It is just pathetic how the media and lawyers try to spin everything. Until all facts are out there shouldn't be a rush to judgement, but there always is thanks to the media. Claiming that he was beatn 99% to death at this point is just idiotic, but the norm now from people who just on the hype bandwagon.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/19/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death/

Same story from cnn posted yesterday, they STILL mention the Brown killing trying to relate the two, "Brown, an unarmed black teen, was shot by Darren Wilson, a white officer, last August." Never mind that Brown tried to take Wilsons gun and beat him. No, just keep the hype going relating every single story to Brown like it was the officers fault. The media is to blame for most of what happened afterwards, the riots and such.

Same website, cnn story from two days ago. Titled; "'Bored' Oklahoma teen convicted in random 'thrill kill'"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/18/us/thrill-kill-teen-convicted/

Black guy kills a white guy because he was bored and convicted. No where in the title does it mention black on white, or in the story. Not one single time. If it was the other way around you can be sure it would have been in the title and in the story. If you dont agree you're delusional. Not prosecuted as a hate crime. The serious media twisting is pathetic.
the media seems to have an agenda and continue to emphasize white kills black but rarely mention the skin color when it is reversed.
 
the media seems to have an agenda and continue to emphasize white kills black but rarely mention the skin color when it is reversed.
They promote what 'sells'. After all they are a business. When the public stops buying what they're selling, they'll move on to selling something else. Of course in reality it's far more complicated than that.
 
If your mind dealt with 200 years of systemic racism I bet you would be of a fuck you mind set as well.

People shouldn't have to act white to be treated like a human being.

pretty sure none of the rioter's are 200 years old.

always have said baltimore is a pile of trash. this helps prove the point.
 
Yes that video was spot on. They did nothing but make themselves look worse. As always happens.

Severe protests in Baltimore overnight. I found this the most interesting image for some reason:

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Can you imagine using that port hole? Terrible idea! Anybody who comes up can grab your arm and now you are kind of screwed.

Those used to be on almost every military vehicle and were designed to shoot out of with a pistol from within the safety of the vehicle. Not to use spray from.. but if they're far enough away then I don't see a problem with it. But as you said, one guy from the side come up and bash your hand and it's going to really hurt. Maybe even immobilizing the driver of the vehicle. Not a good idea. He's inside an armored vehicle, they can't do anything to it with bottles and chairs. Just sit there and let them lash out.
 
Schools are closed today, which is good because the kids that apparently desperately need supervision will be kept home today. I also saw some complaints about how dependent on the breakfast and lunch they are.

This really had nothing at all to do with Freddie Gray, it was kids out to cause a scene and loot the refurbished mall.

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pretty sure none of the rioter's are 200 years old.

always have said baltimore is a pile of trash. this helps prove the point.

Bingo. A black kid who is pulled out of black society at a very young age (possibly adopted as a baby) and raised in a household with values does NOT act like a stereotypical angry black american.

Theres no such thing as generational memory. Kids only know what they are taught once they leave the womb.

On top of which theres too many successful blacks running around right now who were raised in rotten neighborhoods. Which shows you can get out of the ghetto if you just want it, and work for it.


The 200 years shit is just used as an excuse.
Jews were massacred by the millions in the 1940's. Not to mention all the torture, rape, and weird scientific experiments. Do they run around acting like maniacs?
 
Schools are closed today, which is good because the kids that apparently desperately need supervision will be kept home today. I also saw some complaints about how dependent on the breakfast and lunch they are.

This really had nothing at all to do with Freddie Gray, it was kids out to cause a scene and loot the refurbished mall
I wish it was just a mall.. They never stopped lighting the fires or breaking and entering last night, here's a partial map of events, as you can see it's pretty severe. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zYw5SbHYVKBM.kLaJN-znQs40
 
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I wish it was just a mall.

I was watching CNN, Fox, and the local streaming channels because I used to work and hang out in Baltimore. I only specifically mentioned the mall because it seemed to be targeted. The police showed up the first time and the crowd retreated, but then when law enforcement got busy elsewhere they descended on the mall in droves.
 
pretty sure none of the rioter's are 200 years old.

always have said baltimore is a pile of trash. this helps prove the point.

They're a product of 200 years of racism.
Baltimore City is one of the most segregated cities in the world, with some of the worst conditions for its poor. It was heavily impacted by white flight, and with that, most of the city's tax revenue fled as well. I don't know how you fix it, but this has almost nothing to do with Freddie Gray and almost everything to do with decades of neglecting a large portion of the population in this country, where gangs are father figures, schools attempt to function as jails and day cares rather than places of education, and police do a show of force once in a while not because it changes anything, but because they want to keep the population in line and scared.

There probably needs to be a huge increase to tax revenue to poor areas to even being to combat the cultures that are developing there, but the problem is probably too far gone to save the poor communities in their entirety. But at least something could be done to provide mobility for those who want out to get out.
 
Violence is clearly the only thing police understand. The only way to make them change their behavior is to destroy the city so next time they think twice before letting murderers go free.

I believe it's the elected leaders who've made those decisions. Does the public not vote in representatives who then control the police force?
 
Baltimore's mayor is a hypocrite bitch!

She first says she gave space to those who wished to destroy. Then latter on she says she never said it. She says it's the media's fault and that her words should not be twisted.

And here I thought Clinton was bad. Gesh.

The media has never twisted someone's words to create panic and chaos?

:colbert:
 
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