Frats = paying to get friends agree or disagree?

glen

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We pooled our money for a house, beer, and bands.
We had all the girls.
Who has sour grapes?
 

notfred

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I hate fraternities, they annoy the hell out of me.

"hey, let's cover the entire campus in flyers with 'alpha delta chi' or some other greek letters with no significance, but we think they sound cool"
"hey, let's go outside and yell at the dorm buildings at 3AM!"
"hey, we're a bunch of drunken losers!"
 

pillage2001

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<< I hate fraternities, they annoy the hell out of me.

"hey, let's cover the entire campus in flyers with 'alpha delta chi' or some other greek letters with no significance, but we think they sound cool"
"hey, let's go outside and yell at the dorm buildings at 3AM!"
"hey, we're a bunch of drunken losers!"
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AMEN
 

Cattlegod

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there are three ways to look at them
1. pay for friends
2. people's inability to accept themselves as an individual and what they stand for when coming from their hometown/highschool into the real world.
3. as a group of ppl, like a team.

most frats see it as number 3.

personally i see it as a combo of 2 and 1.
 

Smacksmackums

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I don't like Frats. I don't really associate myself with frat bros. so I can't really say why I hate them, but I think it's just their "I'm pretty," stuck-up, rich-boy attitudes that bug me.

I do know a few frat guys that are pretty cool, but I don't see the point in wasting money to live in a sh;ttier house and hang out with sorority chicks that bug me as well.

I also don't drink, so that may be a reason I don't like them, but raping drunk chicks doesn't appeal to me either.

I also don't know where to buy rufies so I'm of no use to them.
 

cressida

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Conversation

Frat: hey man, do you have like, uhm skiing stuff?
Me: no, what are u talking about?
Frat: like you know skiing stuff .. like ski jacket or gloves? I'm going to New Mexico in like an hour and I don't have anything.

Other one:

Frat: Dude, I was at the library for an hour, I studied so much, I never studied that much in my life. I think I'm not going to study for the rest of the week.
Me:
rolleye.gif
 

TuffGirl

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Agreed! I feel the same way about sororities as well. That is not to say there aren't merits to the activities of frats/sororities. There are many. However, those merits can easily be gotten by other means (joining other clubs, hanging with friends) so I think all that greek stuff just boils down to the thread title -- paying for friends. Oh well, it suits some people and YMMV, yadda yadda.
 

gopunk

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i didn't mind them until they started writing all these articles in our student newspaper about how everybody had the wrong impression from the greek system, and they study hard and not all of them drink... blah blah blah... a bunch of whiners if you ask me.
 

LordThing

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After a number of years at WVU, I came to the conclusion that I would have joined a frat. Yeah, 9 times out of 10 they are drunken jerkwads, but they have the best parties, have the best chance at classes and tests(with backlog of questions and people to take notes for you), and you have so many girls that are attracted to you on the idea that you are in a frat.

What else would a guy want really? Sure you have to deal with some money issues and it is like paying for friends. But i think the benefits would have outweighed the drawbacks and i certainly would have had alot more fun.

 

amnesiac

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I was in a frat. Then I realized that they're a bunch of fake-ass drunken jerkoffs looking to get laid at any cost. Now I'm not in a frat.
 
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i was in a fraternity and loved it...i met so many people that i would never have met outside the fraternity.

first off- Paying for friends?????

uhm someone forgot to give me my brothers money then...not a single person in the fraternity makes money off of being in a fraternity so how the hell is it paying for friends? I didnt go and give the president of the fraternity...Actually i was tres. for a year so i know exactly where the money went...50% of it went to keeping the house in one piece.

I dont know how many of you have, but those who do own their own house, can tell you its not cheap. We had to pay property taxes and lots for maintanence.

we had lotsa parties, but whats wrong with that? we always invited all the students and let them have a place to go on the weekends. They didnt have to waste all their money going to bars and it was within walking distance so they didnt have to take cabs.

I went to a school without much of a social scene so we tried to help provide it for the student body.

grouping all fraternities together and saying they all suck and "I hate fraternities, they annoy the hell out of me" makes you sound stupid...there are hundreds and hundreds of them throughout the country and no two are alike.
 

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"hey, let's cover the entire campus in flyers with 'alpha delta chi' or some other greek letters with no significance, but we think they sound cool"
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I wasn't going to respond to this thread but this one comment has me slightly annoyed. The greek letters of most houses, particularly national chapters, have a very definate sinificance and weren't just picked because they sound cool.

I'm in a fraternity and love it. It's not perfect but nothing is. Fraternities vary very much from school to school so I can see why some people would be turned off of them but to dismiss them entirely is a disservice to those of us in a fraternity that does promote developement of its members and service to the school they go to.

Rick
 

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I lived with two frat boys and one of my ex girlfriends is in a sorority.

From what I've gathered, I think Frats are social crutches for people who don't necessarily lack social skills, but are afraid to go out and make friends on their own. Frats are convenient because it forces you into situations where you are guaranteed to make friends. Of course this is a sweeping generalization but this is my opinion.
 
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<< I lived with two frat boys and one of my ex girlfriends is in a sorority.

From what I've gathered, I think Frats are social crutches for people who don't necessarily lack social skills, but are afraid to go out and make friends on their own. Frats are convenient because it forces you into situations where you are guaranteed to make friends. Of course this is a sweeping generalization but this is my opinion.
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hahahaha....yeah thats it...i couldnt make friends outside of my fraternity...that is yet another generalization. I didnt join until my sophmore year and had a lot of friends at that point who i am still in contact with that werent in a fraternity.

I think my closes friends and those i could see myself being in contact with for the rest of my life came from my fraternity though...

like i said each fraternity is different, but that was by far the last reason i ever thought about joining my fraternity.

I know people who arent in a fraternity dont understand this, but there is a lot more to fraternities then partying. If it was just that we wouldnt have alumni contributing money back to us.


Phi Kappa Psi in da house
 

kranky

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Our campus didn't have frat houses but they would situate members in the same wing of the dorms. I didn't have the money to join but I don't think I would have paid to join one anyway. I did get elected as an "honorary" member to one of the social frats, so I pretty much got to do everything that the regular members did.

What I didn't like about it was the whole concept of "your frat brothers come first". It didn't make sense to me that you would have to like everyone who were members just because they forked over the money to join. You're thrown together for a couple years then everyone goes their own way after graduation. I had a couple arguments about why I didn't get along with a select few members, and the reason was that those guys were jerks. I couldn't make myself like them just because they were in the frat. Other guys had no problem with that - no matter what, if there was a problem between a frat brother and a non-member, they would take the frat brother's side.
 

TuffGirl

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Argh after reading your account Kranky, I am convinced that frat members are just mindless sheep and that it requires that type of mentality to really belong in a frat/sorority and like it.

Moo

 

Beattie

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I think that you are wrong. There is a lot more to the whole thing than paying for friends and raping sorority girls. I will admit that there are a lot of fraternities that make this seem like the norm, but I assure you as a member of a fraternity that it is not. My fraternity is active in campus events. Our parties are open not just for us, but for all of the students. Also, as far as paying for friends goes... I hate it when people say this because it is very wrong. You have to realize that even if you aren't paying to be in a fraternity, you still pay to go do things with your friends. You pay go to eat, you pay to go to movies, either way you are paying. Being in a fraternity gives you a lot more than that. It gives you a place to go do things, to have the parties you can't throw in dorms and to do other events. A lot of people that aren't in a fraternity and don't have a lot of friends that are, don't get to see things from the other side of the fence. As far as frat biys being stupid... My fraternity's average GPA is well ABOVE the all mens average at my school. This means that on the average, the people in my fraternity are smarter than the average person at my school.
 

b0mbrman

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They're not raping anyone...you forget that a lot of girls are (a)just plain stupid and think frat guys are supercool or actually want the sex themselves...they wouldn't be at the house if they didn't ;)
 

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u guys sure stereotype and assume things. kinda like the fools here that bash cars, but have never even sat in it before. there is a lot more to just 'buying friends' or whatever u want to call it.

i had the same mentality before, but not anymore. its a lot different than most of you think. but people will think what they must, do what interests you in college. its a once in a lifetime thing.
 

Triumph

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<< you have so many girls that are attracted to you on the idea that you are in a frat. >>


I would NOT want to be in a relationship with that type of girl.
 

Orsorum

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<< I hate fraternities, they annoy the hell out of me.

"hey, let's cover the entire campus in flyers with 'alpha delta chi' or some other greek letters with no significance, but we think they sound cool"
"hey, let's go outside and yell at the dorm buildings at 3AM!"
"hey, we're a bunch of drunken losers!"
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Hehe... so true!
 

dionx

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i think the ppl that badmouth frats and sororities are the ones who got rejected or never invited