Franken at the FCC, when the Net Neutrality fell. His eyes open!!!

[SunnyD]

Franken pens a letter to the FCC with concerns over the upcoming "net neutrality provisions" that will exempt wireless carriers allowing them to pay for prioritization of internet traffic, among other things.

It's about time SOMEONE in congress actually took notice.

 

[Genx87]

Took notice of what? What are Frankens qualifications in this matter?

 

[Modelworks]

The FCC hasn't been about the public in decades now. Don't expect an organization that classifies verizon as small business in bidding for wireless to go against them in other areas.

 

[MovingTarget]

Good, its about time someone in power said something. Wireless carriers should not be exempt from this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...rld-where-every-app-has-its-own-data-plan.ars

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

FCC, when the walls fell.

 

[spidey07]

Lulz, you net neutrality supporters are always good for a laugh.

If you force wireless to not have quality of service the restrictions of the physical layer mean service will suck for everybody.

Good job! You got what you wanted!

 

[zsdersw]

The only things I like in this thread are the TNG episode Darmok references.

 

[drebo]

Nice TNG reference. Just watched that episode a couple days ago.

Re: net neutrality -- prioritization does not contradict the idea of a "free and open Internet". Prioritization is designed for one thing and one thing only: to insure a good quality of service. No prioritization = shitty voice calls, shittly streaming video (or insanely long buffer times), etc. Without prioritization, real-time media services will effectively vanish. Anyone who doesn't believe that has never tried to implement a real-time service over lines that are not under their direct control...believe me, it doesn't work very well.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Lulz, you net neutrality supporters are always good for a laugh.

If you force wireless to not have quality of service the restrictions of the physical layer mean service will suck for everybody.

Good job! You got what you wanted!

waaaaaah!!!!

 

[spidey07]

waaaaaah!!!!

Thankfully the highly intelligent people that know networking like myself and what is required to make it all work are the ones congress and the FCC listen to.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Thankfully the highly bigoted people that know bigotry like myself and what is required to make it all work are the ones congress and the FCC listen to.

fixed. waaaah!!!

 

[fskimospy]

FCC, when the walls fell.

Franken, on the ocean.

 

[BeauJangles]

Thankfully the highly intelligent people that know networking like myself and what is required to make it all work are the ones congress and the FCC listen to.

Who exactly decides what is more important than what?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Who exactly decides what is more important than what?

Eventually, that will be decided by how much $$ you want to pay. Should be fun.

 

[spidey07]

Who exactly decides what is more important than what?

The application requirements get to decide.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The application requirements get to decide.

Please, do elaborate.

 

[spidey07]

Please, do elaborate.

Different applications have different requirements from a network. Some need high speed but don't care about latency or jitter or packet loss. Others need medium speed but are REALLY picky about latency and packet loss, but not so much jitter. Some are low bandwidth but can't tolerate high latency, jitter or packet loss at all.

I just described voice, video and data. You can figure out which one is which.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Different applications have different requirements from a network. Some need high speed but don't care about latency or jitter or packet loss. Others need medium speed but are REALLY picky about latency and packet loss, but not so much jitter. Some are low bandwidth but can't tolerate high latency, jitter or packet loss at all.

I just described voice, video and data. You can figure out which one is which.

Can't wait till it's tiered and costs 3x as much. But hey, who's counting...everyone makes just as much as you, right moneybags?

 

[cubby1223]

Good, its about time someone in power said something. Wireless carriers should not be exempt from this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...rld-where-every-app-has-its-own-data-plan.ars

For fucks sake, near all the opposition of "net neutrality" is more along the lines of conspiracy theories. Crack-pots vision up a fictional reality to form real legislation around.

Your article even begins with imagine a world.

 

[spidey07]

Can't wait till it's tiered and costs 3x as much. But hey, who's counting...everyone makes just as much as you, right moneybags?

Are you kidding me? Bandwidth costs continue to go down in what is essentially one of the most competitive industries in the country.

 

[Genx87]

Please, do elaborate.

This isnt difficult to grasp. Services that are sensitive to traffic disruption or latency recieve higher priority. Voice is a prime example of this.

 

[Genx87]

Can't wait till it's tiered and costs 3x as much. But hey, who's counting...everyone makes just as much as you, right moneybags?

Right, so far without any net neutrality in place has this happened?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Are you kidding me? Bandwidth costs continue to go down in what is essentially one of the most competitive industries in the country.

For now...for now...And no, I'm not kidding you. Businesses are out to make money, and they'll do it any way they can. You give them more control, and they'll use it to the furthest extent possible to make more money.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Right, so far without any net neutrality in place has this happened?

I don't know, has it?

 

[Genx87]

I don't know, has it?

I wont do the leg work for you. Go educate yourself on the subject you are discussing.