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Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

I bet that burned Fox's ass to have to report that.

Freedom fries my ass.

I bet it burns your ass to know the USA is now the largest contributer with $350 Million. Freedom Fries live on! 😛


1) divide by gdp
2) compare to other nations
3) look down on your feet and say youre sorry

You people are retarded. The USA gave more $ in aid the last 4 years than the rest of the world's countries combined. You are arguing a losing argument.

Actually, no. Look up your statistics. The EU consistently gives more than the US year after year.
If this is true, I'm 100% sure that ntdz won't bother to poke his head in this thread again. Especially to offer up some kind of "Oops. Guess I was wrong on that one."

Oh well, guess I'll have to sharpen the 'ol pencil. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

I bet that burned Fox's ass to have to report that.

Freedom fries my ass.

I bet it burns your ass to know the USA is now the largest contributer with $350 Million. Freedom Fries live on! 😛


1) divide by gdp
2) compare to other nations
3) look down on your feet and say youre sorry

You people are retarded. The USA gave more $ in aid the last 4 years than the rest of the world's countries combined. You are arguing a losing argument.

Actually, no. Look up your statistics. The EU consistently gives more than the US year after year.
If this is true, I'm 100% sure that ntdz won't bother to poke his head in this thread again. Especially to offer up some kind of "Oops. Guess I was wrong on that one."

Oh well, guess I'll have to sharpen the 'ol pencil. 😉


Actually I'd like to see the proof that the EU gives more than the US. Please.
 
Got me Dari. Your Google skills are probably better than mine though, go for it.

BTW - that's why I prefaced my statement with "If this is true".
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Got me Dari. Your Google skills are probably better than mine though, go for it.

BTW - that's why I prefaced my statement with "If this is true".

Don't be bashful, Gaard. We all know your research skills are second to none. Now off you go to find those data.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Gaard
Got me Dari. Your Google skills are probably better than mine though, go for it.

BTW - that's why I prefaced my statement with "If this is true".

Don't be bashful, Gaard. We all know your research skills are second to none. Now off you go to find those data.



😱 You flatter me. You trying to get down my pants?
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Gaard
Got me Dari. Your Google skills are probably better than mine though, go for it.

BTW - that's why I prefaced my statement with "If this is true".

Don't be bashful, Gaard. We all know your research skills are second to none. Now off you go to find those data.



😱 You flatter me. You trying to get down my pants?

If you're a female, yes😉 But I can understand your reservation considering that the US makes up 25% of the UN's budget, bank-rolls the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and has the most generous citizens on the planet. AcidicFury is most likely full of sh!t.
 
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

I bet that burned Fox's ass to have to report that.

Freedom fries my ass.

I bet it burns your ass to know the USA is now the largest contributer with $350 Million. Freedom Fries live on! 😛


1) divide by gdp
2) compare to other nations
3) look down on your feet and say youre sorry

You people are retarded. The USA gave more $ in aid the last 4 years than the rest of the world's countries combined. You are arguing a losing argument.

Actually, no. Look up your statistics. The EU consistently gives more than the US year after year.

"We outmatch the contributions of other nations combined; we'll continue to do so," Bush spokesman Trent Duffy told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where the president is spending a post-Christmas vacation at his ranch.

Powell, in response, said on ABC's ''Good Morning America" on Tuesday that the United States ''has given more aid in the last four years than any other nation or combination of nations in the world."

When you include private donations and all our $ spent in non development money, we spend more than the rest of the world combined. I don't have good google skills, I can't find a page with the lists with all contributions combined, but I read an article in the newspaper about it and have these quotes proving it.

http://www.globalissues.org/Tr...onprivatecontributions

International giving by U.S. foundations totals $1.5 billion per year
Charitable giving by U.S. businesses now comes to at least $2.8 billion annually
American NGOs gave over $6.6 billion in grants, goods and volunteers.
Religious overseas ministries contribute $3.4 billion, including health care, literacy training, relief and development.
$1.3 billion by U.S. colleges are given in scholarships to foreign students
Personal remittances from the U.S. to developing countries came to $18 billion in 2000
 
OK, Here is the deal. As far as official gov't spending goes the US's 2003 numbers were 15.8 Billion according to the UN's Official Development Assistance site. Now if you added up all the EU countries they would easily out spend the US in this area but the US is by far the largest donor of money to this fund. In 2000(a Clinton Budget year) we were at 9.581Billion(which is second place behind Japan-13Billion) and have since increased it to 15.8Billion. Now where exactly is this "bad" for Bush? This is Bush's fault we increased it that much in 3 years? Man what a horrible President.

Anyway - I love seeing how the Europeans have to combine all their countries into a EU so their figures look better.😛 I really don't care you pay a higher percentage of your GDP in this "official" Aid - it's your tax money.🙂

Now as for total global Aid I think this will be harder to assess due to the nature of Private donations. I have a feeling though that if you add up the "official" gov't aid and the Privately given Aid - the USA still comes out on top - regardless of how many Euro countries try to add themselves together.

I suppose there also might be the discussion over what exactly is included in "aid".

CsG
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OK, Here is the deal. As far as official gov't spending goes the US's 2003 numbers were 15.8 Billion according to the UN's Official Development Assistance site. Now if you added up all the EU countries they would easily out spend the US in this area but the US is by far the largest donor of money to this fund. In 2000(a Clinton Budget year) we were at 9.581Billion(which is second place behind Japan-13Billion) and have since increased it to 15.8Billion. Now where exactly is this "bad" for Bush? This is Bush's fault we increased it that much in 3 years? Man what a horrible President.

Anyway - I love seeing how the Europeans have to combine all their countries into a EU so their figures look better.😛 I really don't care you pay a higher percentage of your GDP in this "official" Aid - it's your tax money.🙂

Now as for total global Aid I think this will be harder to assess due to the nature of Private donations. I have a feeling though that if you add up the "official" gov't aid and the Privately given Aid - the USA still comes out on top - regardless of how many Euro countries try to add themselves together.

I suppose there also might be the discussion over what exactly is included in "aid".

CsG

That $15.8 billion aid figure is only for developmental aid. It does not include food aid, HIV/AIDS/disease aid, military aid, anti-terrorism aid, etc. It also doesn't include private aid nor does it include aid to certain countries such as Afganistan.

They may pay a higher percentage of their GDP for the developmental aid of one program. And why go by GDP? I'd think that you should go by how much is available to the government (through taxes and such), the responsibilities of the country (UK, France, etc. should have massive amounts of aid to their former colonies which they destroyed through colonialism), financial state of the government, etc.
 
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