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France Races Against Clock In Iraq Hostage Crisis


CAIRO - France scrambled to secure the release of two French journalists kidnapped in Iraq by militants who have given Paris until Monday evening to drop its ban on Muslim headscarves in schools.

French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier, visiting Egypt as part of a French mission to rally support in Iraq and the region, made an impassioned plea to the Islamic Army in Iraq to free Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot. The militant group, which last week said it had killed Italian journalist Enzo Baldoni, Saturday gave the French government 48 hours to rescind the headscarf ban, without saying what would happen to the two Frenchmen if it failed to comply. "We will continue, come what may, to follow all contacts ... with civil and religious personalities to explain the reality of the French republic ... and obtain the release of these people," Barnier said in Cairo.

Iraqi Sunni and Shi'ite Muslim groups and Islamic groups outside Iraq urged the kidnappers to release the journalists, noting France's opposition to the Iraq war and saying journalists were not combatants. The crisis stunned France, which campaigned against the U.S.-led war and so had considered itself relatively safe from militant attack. France also opposed the 1990-2003 economic sanctions on Iraq. Chesnot of Radio France Internationale and Malbrunot, who writes for the dailies Le Figaro and Ouest France, disappeared on Aug. 20 on their way from Baghdad to Najaf, the day after Baldoni was seized.

PARIS PROTESTS

Protests were held across Paris against the kidnappings while French diplomats explored possible solutions. "Their kidnapping is incomprehensible to all those who know that France ... is a land of tolerance and of respect for others," Barnier said before meeting Arab League chief Amr Moussa and Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit. "I urge everyone who has power, or has the capabilities, to set the journalists free as soon as possible so that the situation does not become more complicated," Moussa said.

Aboul Gheit also called for the hostages to be released. Barnier said Foreign Ministry Secretary-General Hubert Colin de Verdiere arrived in Baghdad Monday for crisis talks. Barnier is expected to visit Amman and Qatar, but not Iraq. Islamic groups in Iraq sympathized with the French. "France's position toward Iraq is good. But we also are against kidnapping all journalists," said Sheikh Abdel Sattar Abdel Jabbar, a top official in the Muslim Clerics Association. "We call on the kidnappers to release them immediately." French diplomats Monday met members of the Sunni group which was formed after Saddam Hussein was toppled and has intervened in the past to win the release of kidnapped journalists. Iraqi Shi'ite groups also called for the Frenchmen's release.

SYMPATHY FOR THE FRENCH

Outside Iraq, Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the Arab world's largest Islamist organization, and the Federation of Arab Journalists spoke out against the kidnapping. Cairo's prestigious Sunni seat of learning, al-Azhar, and Lebanon's top Shi'ite cleric Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah also condemned the action. Qatar-based satellite channel Al Jazeera, which aired a tape Saturday showing the two kidnapped Frenchmen and which has regularly broadcast similar tapes of hostages, said all kidnapped journalists should be released. "This clearly means a call for the immediate release of the French journalists held hostage," Al Jazeera spokesman Jihad Ballout said.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder offered a word of caution about efforts to release the journalists, saying: "The more it's dealt with in public, the less chance there will be to resolve the crisis." French critics and defenders of the ban on Muslim headscarves in schools united in support of the law Monday, pledging to stand firm against the kidnappers. France passed the law in March in reaction to the growing influence of Islamist activists and tensions between Muslim and Jewish youths in schools. The law also bans Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses.

Leaders of France's five-million strong Muslim community, the largest in Europe, have denied any link with the militant Islamic Army in Iraq. Fouad Alaoui, secretary-general of an Islamic group that had previously urged schoolgirls to defy the headscarf ban, recommended Monday they refrain from flouting the law. The French government said there was no question of the law being revoked. "It will be applied," government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope told Canal Plus television.




 
This is what happens when nations start a cycle of giving in to terrorist demands.

Just like spoiled children, terrorists will learn that their fits of terrorism will be rewarded.

 
i didnt read the whole article yet...but just on the bolded part:

thats fvuking insane....what? are they gonna hold hostages for every single thing they dont like in this world?! :|

next on the news. Iraqi militants hold US aidsmen hostage demading US ban all women from voting
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
i didnt read the whole article yet...but just on the bolded part:

thats fvuking insane....what? are they gonna hold hostages for every single thing they dont like in this world?! :|

next on the news. Iraqi militants hold US aidsmen hostage demading US ban all women from voting

It's only going to get worse as more countries acquiesce to their demands.
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: IHYLN
they will tolerate until more of their countrymen get killed. just watch.

tolerate what? we are the ones tolerating all their shenanigans

I think he's referring to the French, not the terrorists. Unless you're talking about the French too. 😱😉
 
Al-Sadr ran free and is now up for a government position?!?! Negotiating with terrorists now seems to be the norm rather than the exception.
 
What strikes me most is the hypocricy of this whole issue. There was nowhere near this level of support among the Islamic community when it was American, Korean, or Italian civilians being killed. In comparison to the outcry we're seeing for the French journalists, their previous responses seem almost half-hearted. The message that I'm getting is that it is somewhat more acceptable among the Islamic community to kill the civilians of America and its allies.
 
Originally posted by: ggnl
What strikes me most is the hypocricy of this whole issue. There was nowhere near this level of support among the Islamic community when it was American, Korean, or Italian civilians being killed. In comparison to the outcry we're seeing for the French journalists, their previous responses seem almost half-hearted. The message that I'm getting is that it is somewhat more acceptable among the Islamic community to kill the civilians of America and its allies.

yeah, because the French are on the arab side. like the Palestinian leader Arafat who called on the militants to release the hostages because the French were friends of the Palestinian people.
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen

yeah, because the French are on the arab side. like the Palestinian leader Arafat who called on the militants to release the hostages because the French are anti-Semitic, just like the Palestinians.

I corrected it for you.
 
I feel sorry for the Frenchmen being held hostage....but France made its own bed on this one. Maybe they will learn that appeasing terrorists will not work
 
I think some background is needed here. In france, and growing in europe, they have their own 'mexicans' (i.e. illegals who do the menial jobs for pittances), the Moroccans.

There is a huge difference though -- most Moroccans are Muslim, and share a completly different set of culturial values then the people they serve.

This has caused tons of strife between Morocians and Europeans -- especially in france. The specific law that they are protesting has to be one of the most idiodic I have ever seen. In order to try to keep some semblance of 'seperation of church and state' in schools, they banned pretty much all religious symbols in schools, and the scarves they are referring to are considered a symbol. Thus -- the only way women above a certain age can go to school is in direct conflict with their religious beliefs. There are tons of other ass backwards laws in french that hit the moroccans (and only the moroccans) hard it seems, but the scarf thing is a big one.
 
Originally posted by: Chu
I think some background is needed here. In france, and growing in europe, they have their own 'mexicans' (i.e. illegals who do the menial jobs for pittances), the Moroccans.

There is a huge difference though -- most Moroccans are Muslim, and share a completly different set of culturial values then the people they serve.

This has caused tons of strife between Morocians and Europeans -- especially in france. The specific law that they are protesting has to be one of the most idiodic I have ever seen. In order to try to keep some semblance of 'seperation of church and state' in schools, they banned pretty much all religious symbols in schools, and the scarves they are referring to are considered a symbol. Thus -- the only way women above a certain age can go to school is in direct conflict with their religious beliefs. There are tons of other ass backwards laws in french that hit the moroccans (and only the moroccans) hard it seems, but the scarf thing is a big one.

Understandable. However, IMO if you are immigrating to another country and you don't like the laws in that country, you MIGHT wanna choose another country?
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
I feel sorry for the Frenchmen being held hostage....but France made its own bed on this one. Maybe they will learn that appeasing terrorists will not work

Care to point out where they appeased terrorists?
 
I suppose this is not quite PC of me, but I'm glad this happened and I'm glad France is faced with this now. They've had their own problems with terrorists in the past and have answered those problems very strongly - usually with actions bearing more similarity to summary execution than judicial trial. You never, ever, deal with terrorists - at least publicly.

Now let's see if < 5 terrorists can change the national laws of a first world nation.
 
I have read numerous articles on this. Many of them saying that the French are telling the terrorists that they should not do this to them, because they voted agaisnt sanctions, were against the war, and are against the US occupation!!

This is what happens to cowards who dont stand against terrorists. It gives them strength and confidence to use terror tactics to get their way globally and change laws in other countries!
 
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: Nitemare
I feel sorry for the Frenchmen being held hostage....but France made its own bed on this one. Maybe they will learn that appeasing terrorists will not work

Care to point out where they appeased terrorists?

The terrorists want them to change their policy or else...if they do this they are appeasing them and asking the terrorists to do this again when France does something they do not like.
 
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