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Now now, etech:
Yes, I have noticed your love to spit on the flag and the people that serve under it. Yes, you have the right to do so. I have the right to hold you in disgust for that action. ((See, you also clearly have the right to confabulate and lie to yourself also. The problem is that I spit only in your mind. Actually I'm a much bigger patriot than you are. I love my flag more because I love it for the right reasons. I would never say something so stupid as to tell somebody to stop disrespecting the flag. I didn't tell you to shove it up your ass or anything when you told me not to disrespect the flag. I simply showed you where I think you are wrong. That's what freedom entitles me to do. I don't have a right to shut you up. To you disagreement is spitting, to me it's doing your patriotic duty. If I were you I would accuse you of spitting on the real American.
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You just can't seem to understand that a patriot is not a robot blindly following the President. ((Hehe, which of us more resembes the non robot?)) Once you get that idiotic notion out of your mind you might be worth having a discussion with. A patriot loves his country and will stand up for those ideals you mention. ((I do and am.))
Blindly takeing the words of conspiracy theorists as you do and with the cynicism you display you are as dangerous to this country as any outside enemy. ((This is where you go psycho on me. You actually imagine that I'm blindly taking some conspiracy theory on face value and I keep telling you that's exactly what you are doing the other way round. The difference, I think, is that I entertain more possibilities than you do and especially the forbidden ones, the evil vicious communistic and subversive ones that the Debble would never think to hide himself in because they look like his smoke screen. You aren't real big on questioning things, I think, but I questioned everything piece by piece word by word till I destroyed everything I was ever taught that had emotional value for me.))
You will tear it down from the inside by discouraging any display of love of country or patriotism as blind obedience. ((Yup, I had to pay that price when I started to question. I realized that the love of country the love of patriotism are all absurd empty folly without any real foundation.))
I proudly display this counties flag and you say that I am hiding behind it. ((Nah not really. I was just funning ya like you did me with the clown thing.
You know the routine about people who wrap themselves in the flag. It's something you really need to analyze carefully in your own case, I think))
I support our President until I see evidence that I shouldn?t and you say I am a blind sheep. ((
Well of course the reason I call you a blind sheep is that you don't see the evidence and it's as plain as the nose on ones face as far as I'm concerned. That's the whole problem in the nut shell
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I note that I have served in this countries armed forces and you spread reports that they bomb Afghanis to lower the price of a pipeline. ((I also said that I could never find any proof of that and that because of that it was something I regretted repeating. I have no adversion to criticism, but I like it to be factual. You do know that we conveyed to the Taliban that they should accept a carpet of gold or they'd get a carpet of bombs. It is, I think, important to air points of view and potential leads. Not once was I ever convinced that the report was a certainty and I have not dismissed it still as a possibility. We have different notions of the sacred which I can expand upon))
You seem to find it amusing to compare the President of the US to Hitler. I don't see how that will advance anything but hate and confusion. ((Clearly we seem to differ here. I am a sceptic and irreverent, constitutionally, to authority. As I said I destroyed everything I loved and charished and clung to as sacred truth when I began to question. The world I entered was one without meaning, one where even good and evil were indistinguishable, empty, pointless, sere. You might say that I was stripped of all allegences. In that place where everything had been taken from me, I found by some wonder that which was left, that which could not be taken. We can call that many things, but here I would call it my innalienable rights. Life liberty and the persuit of happiness are natural attributes of something somehwat more fundamental, something maybe we could call our true self or the core of human being. Those crazy forefathers had been dabbling in the enlightenment and understood something to which it's almost impossible to put words. But they did so as best they could in our Constitution.
So for me the Constitution is only hemp fibers. It is the light from which it came that matters, the core of our being, a place empty of identity, of country, nation, religion, creed, sex race of colour. It is a place from whence some would say pours forth the light of God, but which I would simply call Love.
Now truth without attachment, as I might refer to it has a property, I believe, called humor. Attachment looks amazingly funny. So yes I ca laugh at Bush with Hitlers moustache but I have a more serious purpose. You need to laugh too. Humor has an amazing ability to see round corners and create those strange mental siezures that lead to unattached vision. Some people even laugh themselves well.))
If you can?t see the difference then you are the one that is blind.</
((I can see the differences very well. How are you with the similarities. Bush seems to have something of a sense of humor and also turns it on himself. I hope you won't be mad at him too for laughing at the Pres.
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By the way, I don't know if I'm dreaming but there was something about your post that seemed rather sincere or genuine or honest, I don't know, maybe even questioning. Anyway I hope it's not my imagination because I rather liked it, the whatever it is.
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