FoxNews says Ron Paul is a 911 Conspiracy Believer

[bamacre]

Video clip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzeZ9ibd5w

This is really unbelievable, even for Fox.

How can we allow a news media station to blatantly lie like this? This is, IMO, another brick in the road to fascism.

 

[Pabster]

I don't believe Ron Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and anyone who characterizes him as such is being intellectually dishonest.

I do believe Paul is wrong, and I don't like the way he tries to tie a military base in Saudi Arabia to 9/11, thereby creating the impression that he is blaming America for 9/11.

And what's with the Fox bamacre? I thought you didn't watch such trash? It seems the only folks around here who actually watch Fox or Fox News are the lefties and loons which should be avoiding it.

 

[bamacre]

I didn't watch this on Fox, I found it on youtube. Welcome to URL 101.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I didn't watch this on Fox, I found it on youtube. Welcome to URL 101.

So you're scanning YouTube for Fox/Fox News material?

Seems to me that's a distinction with no difference.

 

[bamacre]

How can you deny the fact that we have military on land in which they perceive to be holy, and that this angers those people.

It is our foreign policy that angers these people, and it plays a very significant role in their reasons for attacking us. This is not opinion, Pabster, this is fact. The CIA says this, and they use the term blowback. Look it up. Read the 911 Commission Report.

Remove the merit from their reasons, get our military off their lands.

If we don't change this policy we'll end up in a never-ending circle-jerk of war, just like Israel and the Palestinians, where one side says "we attack you because you occupy our lands," and the other side says, "we occupy your lands because you attack us."

We don't want that. We don't need to be on and occupy their lands. So we need to bring those troops home, take the merit out of their reasons. Significantly lower their recruitment. We need to do this, and we need to do it before it is too late. It is not only the safer thing to do, it is the cheaper thing to do, and it is the right thing to do.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
I didn't watch this on Fox, I found it on youtube. Welcome to URL 101.

So you're scanning YouTube for Fox/Fox News material?

Seems to me that's a distinction with no difference.

No, Pabster, I was initially searching for your brain, but I got a 404 error, then I decided to search for the Ron Paul TownHall meeting, and came across this instead.

:roll:

 

[AliasX]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
I didn't watch this on Fox, I found it on youtube. Welcome to URL 101.

So you're scanning YouTube for Fox/Fox News material?

Seems to me that's a distinction with no difference.

No, Pabster, I was initially searching for your brain, but I got a 404 error, then I decided to search for the Ron Paul TownHall meeting, and came across this instead.

:roll:

If your facts aren't enough to knock us over, boy, your witty remarks sure are!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: AliasX

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: bamacre
I didn't watch this on Fox, I found it on youtube. Welcome to URL 101.

So you're scanning YouTube for Fox/Fox News material?

Seems to me that's a distinction with no difference.

No, Pabster, I was initially searching for your brain, but I got a 404 error, then I decided to search for the Ron Paul TownHall meeting, and came across this instead.

:roll:

If your facts aren't enough to knock us over, boy, your witty remarks sure are!

I thought they were funny as hell...and almost as true! :laugh:

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't believe Ron Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and anyone who characterizes him as such is being intellectually dishonest.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!! WORLD ENDS!!! FILM AT 11!!!

Pabster just stated that he believes Rudy Giuliani, Michelle Malkin and all of Faux Noise are intellectually dishonest. :shocked:

Careful, Pabby... The truth is addictive, and once you start down that path, the ass licking Bushwhacko neocon sycophants will never be able to agree with you again. :laugh:

 

[BradT]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't believe Ron Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and anyone who characterizes him as such is being intellectually dishonest.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!! WORLD ENDS!!! FILM AT 11!!!

Pabster just stated that he believes Rudy Giuliani, Michelle Malkin and all of Faux Noise are intellectually dishonest. :shocked:

Careful, Pabby... The truth is addictive, and once you start down that path, the ass licking Bushwhacko neocon sycophants will never be able to agree with you again. :laugh:

:thumbsup:

 

[BoomerD]

Maybe he IS a 9-11 conspiracy theorist...and MAYBE he's right. Personally, I wouldn't put it past GWB & Darth Cheney to so something like this...with the help of the Mossad...

 

[Lemon law]

The point is that Wahabism almost amounts to the national religion of Saudi Arabia, these Wahabist beliefs are hundreds of years old, and for us to be blundering around stepping on these taboos simply shows that Ron Paul knows something GWB&co and Rudy Giuliani are dangerously ignorant of.

How this discredits Ron Paul simply eludes me. More Fox news BS that only cynically panders to the ignorance of its viewers.

And as we found out and keep finding out, what we don't know can hurt us.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Maybe he IS a 9-11 conspiracy theorist...and MAYBE he's right. Personally, I wouldn't put it past GWB & Darth Cheney to so something like this...with the help of the Mossad...

You didn't watch the video at the OP's link. It includes footage where Paul specifically says exactly the opposite.

I disagree with too much of Ron Paul's economic ideas to vote for him, but I like a lot of his personal honesty and his distaste for the Bushwhackos' war of LIES. Under no circumstances do I think Faux should be allowed to abuse their public platform to spread such malicious lies about any candidate.

Faux Noise is a turd in the punchbowl of life.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Maybe he IS a 9-11 conspiracy theorist...and MAYBE he's right. Personally, I wouldn't put it past GWB & Darth Cheney to so something like this...with the help of the Mossad...

You didn't watch the video at the OP's link. It includes footage where Paul specifically says exactly the opposite.

I disagree with too much of Ron Paul's economic ideas to vote for him, but I like a lot of his personal honesty and his distaste for the Bushwhackos' war of LIES. Under no circumstances do I think Faux should be allowed to abuse their public platform to spread such malicious lies about any candidate.

Faux Noise is a turd in the punchbowl of life.

No Harvey, I DIDN"T watch the video...I'm not a Paulbot...why would I really care one way or another what he thinks?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

No Harvey, I DIDN"T watch the video...I'm not a Paulbot...why would I really care one way or another what he thinks?

I'm not a Paulbot, either, but he should stand or fall based on his own views. What Faux Noise and their venom spewing hate machine did to him isn't fair to any honest candidate, regardless of whether I agree with him.

 

[Lemon law]

As Harvey said---I'm not a Paulbot, either, but what Faux Noise and their venom spewing hate machine did to him isn't fair to any honest candidate, regardless of whether I agree with his views.

I am not a paulbot either, but not only is it unfair, intellectually dishonest, but its also hazardous to the health of the American people. As almost 3000 innocent people found out on 911.

 

[Pabster]

And for every time Fox does something unfair -- and I already said it was -- I can find you an example from CNN, NBC, MSNBC, et al. of them being unfair to someone else...perhaps someone you don't have such a favorable opinion of.


--AnandTech Moderator Opined:--

No, you can't. You can find factual errors on any of the MSM outlet, but I defy you to match any of them, or for that matter, almost all of them combined, for the sheer depth and quantity of their dishonesty of virtually everything on their airwaves.

"Sheer depth and quantity" is a highly subjective term.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't believe Ron Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and anyone who characterizes him as such is being intellectually dishonest.

I do believe Paul is wrong, and I don't like the way he tries to tie a military base in Saudi Arabia to 9/11, thereby creating the impression that he is blaming America for 9/11.

And what's with the Fox bamacre? I thought you didn't watch such trash? It seems the only folks around here who actually watch Fox or Fox News are the lefties and loons which should be avoiding it.

The fact remains: The United States has been sitting with Saudi Arabia for oil and military presence. At the same time, the U.S is waging a war on Islamic terrorism. This is odd, because Saudi Arabia is a blatant financier of anti-Israeli and Islamic extremist groups. Hell, Al Qaeda training camps have been found on the edges of SA via satellite.

You can't have a war on terror while throwing billions of dollars at a country know to support islamic terrorism.

So if you expand on this fact, you can say the United States is indirectly paying for resources that kill Western soldiers and allies *cough* Iraq *cough*.

Get it?

This really has nothing to do with Bush, as Clinton and the guys before him all slept with Saudi Arabia.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
So if you expand on this fact, you can say the United States is indirectly paying for resources that kill Western soldiers and allies *cough* Iraq *cough*.

Of course. Every time you fill your car up at the gas pump...

This really has nothing to do with Bush, as Clinton and the guys before him all slept with Saudi Arabia.

Precisely.

 

[JEDIYoda]

This really has nothing to do with Bush, as Clinton and the guys before him all slept with Saudi Arabia.

I always wondered who was satisfying Hillary while ole Billy boy was running around with Monica...lol

 

[NoStateofMind]

Another fauxed up news bit. Someone should really see about getting their license pulled.

 

[Sacrilege]

More sensationalist garbage from Fox. Ron Paul's out of mainstream ideas are a real threat to the establishment. He has no real chance of winning but he could become a special interest candidate who succeeds in getting ideas out in the public discourse. So logically the route for Murdoch is to marginalize Paul as early and fully as possible. His favorite candidates are surely authoritarian Guiliani and if a Democrat must win, than nanny Hillary.

 

[NaughtyGeek]

The first one here that tells me about Völkischer Beobachter wins a cookie.


Understand, if all of us have seen this and just accept it, to hell with Ron Paul or any other candidate. If you accept your major media outlets reporting OUTRIGHT LIES you are inviting some troubling elements into your lives. Simple misquotes and failed fact checks happen, but everyone here regardless of political affiliation or beliefs can see NEWS being reported that is patently and knowingly false.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
The first one here that tells me about Völkischer Beobachter wins a cookie.


Understand, if all of us have seen this and just accept it, to hell with Ron Paul or any other candidate. If you accept your major media outlets reporting OUTRIGHT LIES you are inviting some troubling elements into your lives. Simple misquotes and failed fact checks happen, but everyone here regardless of political affiliation or beliefs can see NEWS being reported that is patently and knowingly false.

Völkischer Beobachter

 

[bamacre]

PC Surgeon beat me