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daveymark

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
OK...I keep hearing about how biased FOX News is. Please show me a couple of examples of this. Please understand that I'm not talking about political commentary...I'm talking about bias in how the news is reported.

it's not biased. just as libs like to call the daily show "Real news", they also believe commentary op-ed shows are "news" because there's a FNC logo in the corner

my offer is still open to all libs: give me ONE instance of a news anchor on Fox spouting right wing bias on a news show. just ONE, that's all I ask.


**crickets**


that's what I thought :laugh:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
OK...I keep hearing about how biased FOX News is. Please show me a couple of examples of this. Please understand that I'm not talking about political commentary...I'm talking about bias in how the news is reported.

it's not biased. just as libs like to call the daily show "Real news", they also believe commentary op-ed shows are "news" because there's a FNC logo in the corner

my offer is still open to all libs: give me ONE instance of a news anchor on Fox spouting right wing bias. just ONE, that's all I ask.


**crickets**


that's what I thought :laugh:
Yeah they should have siad "Fox News Channel" instead of just "Fox News." I know it's nitpicking but when dealing with Nit Pickers like Davy you have to be exact.
 

charrison

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I think it is worth noting that when Brit Hume read the text poll results he did mention they were not in anyway scientific.


This is probably about as useful as any online poll...
 

kage69

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For all the raildogs asking for bias, you could start by watching Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. It's not perfect and a bit hokey at times, but it's a scathing look at what a lot of America falls for. The accounts of former employees and sheer amount of actual FOX footage make it kinda hard to explain away. The internal memos are a nice touch.
It also addresses the curious trend of other channels trying to out-fox Fox (futilely) after 9/11.

Just for starters I mean... Single flick: it's a easy start for lazy people to combat the embarrassment that goes with claiming FOX isn't biased. ;)
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: kage69
For all the raildogs asking for bias, you could start by watching Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. It's not perfect and a bit hokey at times, but it's a scathing look at what a lot of America falls for. The accounts of former employees and sheer amount of actual FOX footage make it kinda hard to explain away. The internal memos are a nice touch.
It also addresses the curious trend of other channels trying to out-fox Fox (futilely) after 9/11.

Just for starters I mean... Single flick: it's a easy start for lazy people to combat the embarrassment that goes with claiming FOX isn't biased. ;)



rofl, that left wing lovefest, distributed by moveon.org, shows op-ed pieces from hannity, O'reilly, etc. and passes them off as news The only sound bites from the actual news shows are to mislead the viewer.

For instance, they'll show OReilly saying something out of context such as "kill as many as we can!"

then, immediately after O'Reilly's comment, they'll switch to an actual clip from an actual news show where the anchor says "real journalism, fair and balanced"

misleading things like this lead the gullible libstain to believe O'Reilly's show is a news show.


That said - my offer still stands. the entire leftwing propaganda show is on youtube in 7 parts. show me ONE clip from that garbage piece that shows a news anchor saying something with a right wing bias.


 
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I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

 

JD50

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

Just one question for you, do you think that CNN is liberal biased?

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

Just one question for you, do you think that CNN is liberal biased?
Yeah but even close to the degree that Fox is biased to the Right.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

Just one question for you, do you think that CNN is liberal biased?

simple, yes.

my turn. Where do you get your news?

edit: when speaking in terms of "journalistic integrity" I feel Fox News doesn't pass the test . Does CNN and MSNBC have their problems? I am sure they do, just not to the extent as FOX News.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

Just one question for you, do you think that CNN is liberal biased?

simple, yes.

my turn. Where do you get your news?

P&N of course, where else?

Seriously, I get it from everywhere, whatever TV station I might have on at the time, internet, radio, newspapers, etc..

Although, I do prefer to watch Fox News for their editorial content. I would much rather listen to conservative commentators than the liberal ones on every other news channel.

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.


Thank you, well put, but I don't think it is education (although it may be) they keep themselves ignorant on purpose, they are more interested in their side winning then getting their heads straight around an issue. Also they have listened to this hate radio etc for so long they have convinced themselves that their fellow americans are out to get them.

It is all a us vs them game. I am sure they all know how idiotic their views are and that they have always been wrong on the issues, but knowing this just reinforces their victim complex of the opressed conservative white male endangered species. (so they think).

Probably best to tune these wingnuts out, they are a shrinking minority more every day, some will not wake up and go to their grave shaking their fist at whatever paranoid demons they have made for themselves in liberals, mexicans etc.

Just remember who you are dealing with, folks afraid of change and difference then who they are, it is the core of the victim complex that makes up conservative ideology.

(notice how a feared nation in turmoil becomes more conservative and by contrast a stable peaceful society becomes more liberal)

Most will wake up, others will always be scared of something and must have an enemy to be afraid of.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.

Just one question for you, do you think that CNN is liberal biased?

simple, yes.

my turn. Where do you get your news?

P&N of course, where else?

Seriously, I get it from everywhere, whatever TV station I might have on at the time, internet, radio, newspapers, etc..

Although, I do prefer to watch Fox News for their editorial content. I would much rather listen to conservative commentators than the liberal ones on every other news channel.

well good for you, because that is the only way at ATTEMPTING to get the whole picture, which is something missing more and more these days.

I listen to NPR when im in the car. I hit the news articles online from all over, being very aware of the news source. I do not watch local news anymore, unless I want to know the local weather. I certainly do NOT tune into any of the cable news networks for any reason. If I watch a news show it is Jim Leaher's on PBS.

I am not saying these sources do not have their biases, but that as far as bias goes, these sources are, for my money, better than most.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Probably best to tune these wingnuts out, they are a shrinking minority more every day, some will not wake up and go to their grave shaking their fist at whatever paranoid demons they have made for themselves in liberals, mexicans,Green Haired Whacked out Anarchists, etc.
QFT

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Probably best to tune these wingnuts out, they are a shrinking minority more every day, some will not wake up and go to their grave shaking their fist at whatever paranoid demons they have made for themselves in liberals, mexicans,Green Haired Whacked out Anarchists, etc.
QFT

So I make you tremble huh? You big softie ;)
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.

No, actually it has more to do with burnout. You see, 'libs' are tired of doing your thinking for you, arguing against you, and presenting facts that are ignored. If you choose to think Fox news is unbiased, then fine. After all the information out there, the documentaries, the news articles (even articles presented IN THIS VERY THREAD) if you fail to see the lack of journalistic integrity in FOX news broadcasts, then nothing that anyone here says will make you know any differently. And part of me doesn't even blame folks like you or daveymark, you obviously had access to poor education. What we are working on here is basic critical thinking skills and reasoning skills (something I got in grade school,) something that people like daveymark or jediyoda just plainly lack.

It is burnout. People that actually THINK are tired of the intellectual blackhole of the Fox sheeple, I know I am. My only regret is that there are soo many of you, the sheeple. Thankfully, there is hope that the apathetic are finally waking up.


Thank you, well put, but I don't think it is education (although it may be) they keep themselves ignorant on purpose, they are more interested in their side winning then getting their heads straight around an issue. Also they have listened to this hate radio etc for so long they have convinced themselves that their fellow americans are out to get them.

It is all a us vs them game. I am sure they all know how idiotic their views are and that they have always been wrong on the issues, but knowing this just reinforces their victim complex of the opressed conservative white male endangered species. (so they think).

Probably best to tune these wingnuts out, they are a shrinking minority more every day, some will not wake up and go to their grave shaking their fist at whatever paranoid demons they have made for themselves in liberals, mexicans etc.

yes perhaps I was being, "a little rough on the Beaver." It is just that most of the arguments that come from some of these good folk are so uneducated and elementary.

Its like all I want to say in retort is: GROW UP!! but that would only make it worse.

and Im no intellectual elitist by far, but I think at the very least, I can question my knowledge, as well as information presented, with a MOSTLY unbiased perspective. :p
 

JayMassive

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Here's a solution: take three news sources: Fox News, the Clinton News Network, and a third source of your choice (that's right...your choice,) and triangulate the truth from there. Of course the news is biased. With the current system, you can't avoid bias, as the parties force you into one of two sides to an issue. But most of it matters little if you are unable to formulate your own opinion regardless of the bias.
 

Steeplerot

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Orbyte,

I don't even know if it is a maturity thing, some people just always have to have something to be scared of, an enemy out to victimize them to be opposed to, maybe it is some weird traumatic aspect of being raised christian fearing a devil under their bed or something, I dunno.

Here is a good take at what I am trying to get at, in a rather fed up tone that a lot of America is feeling nowadays at their running amok.




"Conservatism" = We The People "Drowned in a bath tub".

Conservatism has poisoned everything it's touched in my lifetime of 47 years; from the assassination of Martin Luther King and the election of Nixon and his escalation in Vietnam to Reagan's massive redistribution of wealth upward and accompanied deficits, to George W. Bush's resurrection of a type of reactionary trogdalytes educated people thought had gone away. The reactionary right has repeatedly torn apart and reversed progress each time it's been made. And the reason it's happened is not difficult to grasp: Conservatism, despite the implications of it's name, is a fundamentally destructive force, not a constructive force in society. It's rightly called reactionary because apart from it's reactions, it has no nature other than resist and to disassemble. It is innately, yet rightly paranoid. Conservatives are at least smart enough to understand that if they're not defensive in the extreme, they're always going to be overthrown by the people. Their paranoia then becomes an infliction on the rest of us who're also rightly paranoid of them. Conservatism is a breeding ground for national paranoia.

Grover Nordquist is unarguably the Father of the movement as it exists today, and the destructive nature of his movement was exemplified in his infamous "Make the government small enough to drown in a bath tub" quote. So conservatism argues for smaller government as it's central thesis. What a stupid thesis. Let me tell you what this really means, at least if you're someone who actually loves the country: This country is founded upon the concept that We The People are the government. That our government is government of the people, by the people, and for the people. If you do not believe this, you're not an American. Not a real one anyway. And if you think you do, yet call yourself a "conservative", how do you square that with wanting a smaller government? Here is what this actually computes to: You want a smaller people. There is no way around that. Remember, we are the government.

When we undertook to go to the moon in the early sixties, did we devise to build smaller, simpler rockets every year until the "goal" was reached? Of course not, that's idiotic. Yet this is the fundamental idiocy of the conservative movement; it seeks an ever smaller people, obligated to less and less, to accomplish more and more. Maintaining the peace and prosperity of a nation of 300 million people, and advancing the quality of their daily lives, is a monumental undertaking. Finally getting to the moon required the most complex, powerful rocket ever devised. Who in their right mind could look at an entire country, one which is touted to be the most powerful nation on earth no less, and conclude that we'll make progress by making "We The People", smaller; indeed "small enough to drown in a bath tub"? You just witnessed the obvious result of conservative philosophy in New Orleans; We The People, were drowned.....

Those of us who reject this "smaller government" idiocy understand something else about conservatives; they're hypocrites. To a man. When they see a problem in government, they do not seek to fix the problem. They seek to eliminate the government itself: They seek to eliminate.....US. Those of us who understand them, understand that because their core ideology is reactive and exclusively critical to those who construct presumably useful societal structures, understand that when an inevitable failure takes place ?for all complex under takings generate them-, these hypocrites are going to come forward not with a solution, but rather an attack on the government itself. You see, they actually hate "We The People"; all they understand is "Me the tax payer". They care absolutely nothing for the "general welfare", and in fact, they loath it. Remember, "to promote the general welfare" is the central mission statement of our Constitution. "Conservatives" actually hate America.....

Conservatism offers no hope and never did. It is a fundamental rejection of real Americanism; the belief that as a people, we can work together to make this place better for everyone. They don't want it better for everyone. They want it better for themselves at the expense of "the general welfare".....



Conservatives destroy freedom. I believe in every freedom but for one: The right to actually attempt to destroy freedoms. The conservatives willfully destroyed our freedoms, they systematically sought to reduce the Bill of Rights to dust and had they not been stopped, there'd have been nothing left. It is time for people who actually care about this country as an idea set forth by the founders, to recognize our real domestic enemy. It's them. The conservatives understand nothing but naked authoritarian power, and like the cowards they really are, their boldness immediately subsides when confronted. They went unconfronted far too long. But they not only need to be confronted, but at this point, they should be shamed, beaten down, and as I said in an earlier op-ed, offered a steaming hot cup of "Shut the fvck up".

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palehorse

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once again... anyone who develops their personal opinions based upon a single news source is a grade-A moron.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I seriously think that the Libs like kage69 just flat out don't get it. They aren't talking about news bias at all...they're really talking about bias of right wing commentary (op-ed pieces expressing political viewpoints)...well duh. Apparently they have a hard time telling the difference between news and political commentary. I guess that explains why they don't complain about all the liberal op-ed that?s rampant on CNN, MSNBC, etc....they must think that liberal op-ed opinion is actually unbiased news. This explains why there's no screams from them of liberal "news bias" at CNN, etc. as it appears liberal op-ed is taken at face value to be fact.

It's obvious that the Libs hate FOX because they allow conservatives to express their opinions. Libs actually believe they're all about free speech and tolerance...unless, of course, you disagree with them. Then you get a clear understanding what liberal tolerance really means.


Here's one with graphics

How about Fox labeling Mark Foley as a Democrat?

Here's a Fox News report blaming the Dems for "ignoring" Foley's exploits for political gain

Here's Cavuto with a graphic stating that the "liberal media" is making up the civil war in Iraq

Vidcap of another Fox NEWS show graphic blaming Dems for "killing the spirit of bipartisanship"

Fox NEWS segment asking of the Dems have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"

Fox NEWS claiming that the insurgents are "dancing in the streets" over the Dems November sweeps

Fox News internal memo asking its "reporters" to "On The Lookout For Any Statements From The Iraqi Insurgents?Thrilled At The Prospect Of A Dem Controlled Congress?

Fox News apology for making up Kerry quotes

Fox "News" editing a Colbert spoof to try to make the Dem look bad

I'm sorry.....you guys only asked for one. See how usefull a simple Google search can be when you really want to see what you think doesn't exist.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
once again... anyone who develops their personal opinions based upon a single news source is a grade-A moron.
I guess you felt that it was such an interesting observation by you that it needed to be posted again? You've proven that's not all it take to be considered a grade A Moron:p

 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
once again... anyone who develops their personal opinions based upon a single news source is a grade-A moron.
I guess you felt that it was such an interesting observation by you that it needed to be posted again? You've proven that's not all it take to be considered a grade A Moron:p
back to the personal attacks again? yay for you...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
once again... anyone who develops their personal opinions based upon a single news source is a grade-A moron.
I guess you felt that it was such an interesting observation by you that it needed to be posted again? You've proven that's not all it take to be considered a grade A Moron:p
back to the personal attacks again? yay for you...
Do unto others Bubba!