Fox News?

techs

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Let me get this straight.

It was founded by someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

The "news" director is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative, and was Richard Nixon's campaign director.

Every single host is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

Three of the failed candidates for the Republican nomination in 2008 have shows on Fox. And, of course, all are proud to say they are conservatives.


Just checking the fair and balanced, well, balance.
 

shira

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Here's an idea Techs, don't watch Fox News.
I don't think Techs was complaining about his viewing experience on Fox. He was seeking input on the "fairness and balance" claimed by Fox. Perhaps you can point out the fairness and balance Techs isn't noticing on Fox.
 

boomerang

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Let me get this straight.

It was founded by someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

The "news" director is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative, and was Richard Nixon's campaign director.

Every single host is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

Three of the failed candidates for the Republican nomination in 2008 have shows on Fox. And, of course, all are proud to say they are conservatives.


Just checking the fair and balanced, well, balance.
Scary, huh?

I know it would far more convenient to have every news outlet towing the progressive line, filtering the news we hear and then instilling a leftist bias in every story, but sometimes life's just not fair.

I'm guessing November is going to be a bad month for you.
 

JD50

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I don't think Techs was complaining about his viewing experience on Fox. He was seeking input on the "fairness and balance" claimed by Fox. Perhaps you can point out the fairness and balance Techs isn't noticing on Fox.

I don't really give a shit about Fox. I hear more about FNC from liberals than anyone else. Stop watching if it offends you so much. Don't you have a global warming thread to make?
 

Moonbeam

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The counter claim will be that every other news outlet in the world is left and those on the left will say that every one of those if fair and balanced. They they will point out the really hard part, that both sides can't be right. You just can't fool smart people any more than stupid people can see how stupid they are.
 

shira

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I don't really give a shit about Fox. I hear more about FNC from liberals than anyone else. Stop watching if it offends you so much. Don't you have a global warming thread to make?

Again, you're missing the point and being non-responsive. Someone is asking you where the "fair and balanced" content claimed by Fox resides. A simple "I don't know" would be correct if you don't know the answer.
 

shira

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Scary, huh?

I know it would far more convenient to have every news outlet towing the progressive line, filtering the news we hear and then instilling a leftist bias in every story, but sometimes life's just not fair.

I'm guessing November is going to be a bad month for you.
Beneath all the deflection, your response to the OP is, "Fox is not remotely fair and balanced."

I guess this demonstrates yet again that getting a straight answer from righties is nearly impossible.
 

manimal

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So watch a news channel that say's what you want to hear. There are plenty of them.

The difference with fox is the outright lying and obfuscation.


No network or show is without bias, Fox is in the liars hall of fame...
 

JD50

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Again, you're missing the point and being non-responsive. Someone is asking you where the "fair and balanced" content claimed by Fox resides. A simple "I don't know" would be correct if you don't know the answer.

Why do you care about Fox? Do you bitch about lifetime having a bunch of womens shows too?
 

Elias824

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I for one think we need another government organization to enforce the slogans of all companies to ensure they are factual. I for one have been fooled to many times by my corporate masters its time someone stepped in and did something about it.
 

Elias824

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now sarcasm aside, if you dont like it dont watch it. Obviously fox leans to the right its been argued many times before, but there is a great variability in who you watch, there are people on fox like Cavuto, Shepard smith, and Geraldo Rivera that are reasonably balanced, Geraldo and smith are probably closer to left then right the station isnt hanity playing 24/7. Now how may more fox news threads do there need to be? Hasnt this been done to death?
 

trenchfoot

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Yeah, I understand how irritating it is when the obvious fact that FOX's behavior as a "News" Network is inexcusable and indefensable and it gets tiring and frustrating to keep defending their blatant lying and fear mongering and the histrionics that accompany all of it, but hey, if FOX wants to keep doing it, then they have to be called on it.

Otherwise, the incessant, interminable and insidious propagandistic drum beating emanating from their studios will stand unchallenged and they will have accomplished their goal of having to completely ignore all semblance of integrity and ethical conduct in the pursuit of having their ideology foremost in people's minds and get away with it.

Fox is continuously degrading all moral and ethical standards in broadcasting news and commentary, so they need to be continuously exposed for what they really are, what their true purpose is and what the truth is in response to all their lies.
 

DominionSeraph

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I know it would far more convenient to have every news outlet towing the progressive line, filtering the news we hear and then instilling a leftist bias in every story, but sometimes life's just not fair.

Being filtered through a perspective is not the same as propaganda, though; and unfortunately Fox News is a propaganda network.

Look at the Gulf oil spill. First they were fear-mongering about the government getting involved. As soon as the wind shifted, they hammered Obama for not getting involved sooner. As the President was locked away concentrating on fixing the physical problem, they hammered him for not "feeling the pain" of the people. When Obama came out and started indulging those self-centered retards with constant reassurance, they hammered him for playing image games. When he secured a fund of $20 billion, they cried "Socialism!"
They fear-mongered about the spending of government money, then they hammered him for "interfering with business" when he billed BP.

You can't have every option being the wrong option, but that's what Fox News turns every option that Democrats take into. Do nothing, it's wrong. Do something, it's still wrong -- doesn't matter what it was that you did.

Fox News relies on their audience being stupid -- just processing each sentence emotionally and not connecting anything into a coherent picture. This allows them to fear-monger with a free hand.

Fox News is not a news network. It's 1% fact and 99% how something about it is the Democrats' fault.
The only time you get actual news is the rare occasion there's a breaking news event. The difference is remarkable because it takes them a few minutes to work out a political spin. In that short span you actually get news -- what they report is no different from CNN.

If you'll notice, Fox News stays away from pushing individual agendas and instead pushes for absolute political power. Other than, "Repeal Obamacare," there's just lip service to a few other things, and then absolute nothingness as to what they'll do with power. So a few years of fear mongering and people are ready to give Fox News carte blanche over the policies of the nation?
And it is Fox News who would be in power. The Republican party moved in and made it their home, and in doing so made a huge mistake. By setting it up as the official Republican outlet, any candidate without Fox News' approval would be back in the dark ages for campaigning, and the outlets remaining to him would be constantly attacked by Fox News and marginalized as "biased." And Fox News has its Tea Party candidates with which to threaten any Republican who doesn't play ball. (The Tea Party was made by Fox News. A year ago it was nothing. But Fox News spouting, "Tea Party, Tea Party, Tea Party," 24/7 gave it the appearance of a legitimate party [false reasoning: "If it wasn't legitimate, it wouldn't be worth talking about. Somebody is constantly talking about it, therefore it must be legitimate], which strengthened when legitimate news organizations reported on Fox News reporting on it (damned egotistical idiots probably thought their analysis that it was marginal and undefined would be the final word on things) (and to this day the mainstream media is still taking Fox News talking points as news in itself. "Teach the controversy," was a scheme of Creationists to put religion back in the classroom; Fox News apparently took that and turned it into, "Find a topic and pretend there's a legitimate controversy," and now the mainstream media is at, "Report the controversy that Fox News created." Jesus Effing Christ.
Doesn't anybody spend time with psychopaths anymore? You can't properly deal with the amoral (like Fox News) without knowing the full range of tools available to them, illuminating the deficiencies of the standard response toolset. They're off the grid, you can't treat them as though they're on it. Thinking that you can treat the antisocial as pro-social because your superior intellect will alert you to any trickery will just get you pwned though a route of manipulation your premise of "pro-social" wouldn't allow them to even consider, but they took anyway.)

That's Fox News.

Anyway, I think any network ACTUALLY taking the route of simply filtering news with a conservative perspective would be a complete failure. It would fall apart on differing religious interpretations. "Democrats are bad," is big tent -- filtering to that would appeal to the egos of pretty much every conservative. "Women shouldn't be in politics because it goes against the Bible," I think would tend to be a bit more problematic.
That's just the problem you run into when all of your social beliefs are based on the flights of fancy of ancient goat herders.

Also, "toeing the line."
 

dmcowen674

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Fox News?

Let me get this straight.

It was founded by someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

The "news" director is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative, and was Richard Nixon's campaign director.

Every single host is someone who is proud to say he is a conservative.

Three of the failed candidates for the Republican nomination in 2008 have shows on Fox. And, of course, all are proud to say they are conservatives.


Just checking the fair and balanced, well, balance.

No such thing as Fox News

Its Fox Entertainment
 

shortylickens

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Repost x 100.

This has already been covered to the point of being an automatic lock. No one ever contributes anything new to the discussion.