Fox News sued for spreading misinformation to the public

[Vic]

To put yourself in the WH considering the pros and cons, along with inconclusive and ever changing models.

Which one of the models forced him to call it a hoax?

 

[Retro Rob]

Probably about as stupid as comparing what posters on an Internet forum would have done versus what a president would have done.

Except, some of those claimed they could have done a better job.

 

[HomerJS]

Except, some of those claimed they could have done a better job.

Knowing what we all know about Trump what was his main concern, the people of this country or his re-election??

That is one of the keys to do the right thing in that job.

 

[Retro Rob]

Which one of the models forced him to call it a hoax?

The point is, not even our health officials know. They readily admit models are based on assumptions.

 

[Vic]

Death toll just lowered today, and peak said to happen sooner:

"The University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model lowered its projected U.S. death toll by 26%, to 60,000 from 80,000 by August 4. The model is one of several that the White House task force has cited.

The task force previously projected 100,000 to 240,000 Americans could die.

The institute also moved up its projected peak in the number to U.S. deaths to this Sunday, when it predicted 2,212 people will succumb to the disease. The revision moves forward the projected peak by four days, suggesting the strain on the country's healthcare system will lessen sooner than previously expected."

Speed of coronavirus deaths shock doctors as New York toll hits new high

New York state, epicenter of America's coronavirus crisis, set another single-day record of COVID-19 deaths on Wednesday, as veteran doctors and nurses voiced astonishment at the speed with which patients were deteriorating and dying. The number of known coronavirus infections in New York state

news.yahoo.com

Just proving my point how the pendulum swings day by day, either direction.

That reduced figure is based on the premise that stay at home and social distancing policies remain in place. Just FYI.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

Except that doesn't explain why Australia, Taiwan, and Japan have been able to flatten the curve. Heck, even Canada is doing 2-3x fold better than the US when comparing on a per capita basis.

Tell that to the New Orleans leadership who went ahead with Mardi Gras, etc etc. Unless you're about to roll up in a NYC park and arrest people for being in public or arrest people for attending Mardi Gras, I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck.

Some people are simply determined to do whatever the hell they want.

 

[Vic]

The point is, not even our health officials know. They readily admit models are based on assumptions.

Which model said it was a hoax?

 

[Retro Rob]

Knowing what we all know about Trump what was his main concern, the people of this country or his re-election??

That is one of the keys to do the right thing in that job.

What politcian doesn't want to be reelected as a priority?

 

[HomerJS]

Tell that to the New Orleans leadership who went ahead with Mardi Gras, etc etc. Unless you're about to roll up in a NYC park and arrest people for being in public or arrest people for attending Mardi Gras, I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck.

Some people are simply determined to do whatever the hell they want.

Were the NO leaders informed of the coming pandemic? The level of detail would have to come from the federal government.

 

[Vic]

What politcian doesn't want to be reelected as a priority?

Which politician placed that priority over Americans' health and safety?

 

[Retro Rob]

That reduced figure is based on the premise that stay at home and social distancing policies remain in place. Just FYI.

That's what I said. The models are based on assumptions.

 

[Retro Rob]

Which politician placed that priority over Americans' health and safety?

How many can you think of faced a global pandemic?

 

[HomerJS]

What politcian doesn't want to be reelected as a priority?

You skirted the question. Try again. Almost every politician wants to get re-elected.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

You mean idiots wouldn't pass it here, nor make the laws to begin with.

No, I mean that some of those things would be Constitutionally illegal to enact on the citizens of the country. South Korean citizens are not protected by the same rights we are.

 

[abj13]

Tell that to the New Orleans leadership who went ahead with Mardi Gras, etc etc. Unless you're about to roll up in a NYC park and arrest people for being in public or arrest people for attending Mardi Gras, I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck.

Some people are simply determined to do whatever the hell they want.

I'm sorry, that doesn't answer the point whatsoever. Many countries have had varied approaches that have flattened the curve. This requires combined efforts of efficient testing and proper leadership to get most people practicing good social distancing The expectation is not 100% compliance, but an acceptable percentage for mitigation of the number of cases. Can you point to me why the US decided, despite admitting the country was deficient on testing kits, that the WHO tests shouldn't be used? Can you point to me where the federal leadership told New Orleans to not hold Mardi Gras celebrations?

 

[ivwshane]

Right, and a ton of that stuff wouldn't work here.

So it's all or nothing then, right?

 

[Vic]

That's what I said. The models are based on assumptions.

Duh Captain Obvious. Do you believe that particular assumption is likely to remain? And if not, what do you think will happen to the models then?

 

[Retro Rob]

Tell that to the New Orleans leadership who went ahead with Mardi Gras, etc etc. Unless you're about to roll up in a NYC park and arrest people for being in public or arrest people for attending Mardi Gras, I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck.

Some people are simply determined to do whatever the hell they want.

Remember, they expect Governors, in the face of a global pandemic, to outsource all of their thinking to the federal government.

 

[soundforbjt]

How many can you think of faced a global pandemic?

Obama did as well as all the World's leaders at the time.

 

[Vic]

How many can you think of faced a global pandemic?

Which is that relevant? I expect every politician to prioritize American lives over their re-election hopes, regardless of the circumstances. Why would you expect less, especially during a global pandemic?

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

I'm sorry, that doesn't answer the point whatsoever. Many countries have had varied approaches that have flattened the curve. This requires combined efforts of efficient testing and proper leadership to get most people practicing good social distancing The expectation is not 100% compliance, but an acceptable percentage for mitigation of the number of cases. Can you point to me why the US decided, despite admitting the country was deficient on testing kits, that the WHO tests shouldn't be used? Can you point to me where the leadership told New Orleans to not hold Mardi Gras celebrations?

Well for one there were other countries who needed testing kits more than we did at the time those test kits were offered to us. If we'd have accepted those test kits despite other countries needing them far more than we did, you'd be here crying that the US was hoarding test kits when we didn't need them as badly as the other countries who could have used them.

Second, several countries are now reporting that those kits they bought from China were something absurd like ~80% inaccurate with false positives and false negatives.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

So it's all or nothing then, right?

Nice strawman.

 

[Retro Rob]

Obama did as well as all the World's leaders at the time.

So Obama, faced a disease that's now infected nearly half a million Americans, with no vaccine or treatment, and something along the lines of a 3 percent death rate?

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

Remember, they expect Governors, in the face of a global pandemic, to outsource all of their thinking to the federal government.

That's what boggles my mind. The feds are a joke and yet in a time of crisis the general public is somehow shocked that the feds bungle yet another situation. People want a BIGGER federal government with them in control of MORE? Laughable.

 

[ivwshane]

Except, some of those claimed they could have done a better job.

So just so I understand you correctly, you are saying:

Comparing what people on the internet said they could do against what trump has done is valid but comparing what the US has done with what other countries have done is invalid?

Is that the argument you are making now? Lol


I think you should stop posting and go back to your packed church and pray this all away, you'd be doing everyone a favor😉