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umbrella39

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Since the Giants took an early lead over SF I turned back to news. Fox is running an hour long program Barak Obama the ties that bind.

This represents Fox giving McCain a free 1 hour campaign commercial. I wonder if Fox can be fined for this? I think this is how Fox will operate until election day continuing to help McCain. 15 minutes before this campaign commerical they didn't even discuss the Powell endorsement.

And the sheep will lap it up like mother's milk. They should really be forced to change their name to GOPNC. The Grand Old Propaganda News Channel. I hear water pours right out of your glass when you set it down on a table at the FNHQ, even the floors there are slanted.
 

Jhhnn

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The problem with Fox News is that they exploit the public trust and the heritage of honest newsmen like Cronkite, Murrow, et al in presenting what's essentially editorial content as news.

And it's fine for them to take whatever editorial stance they want, so long as it's clearly that, which, of course, isn't how they represent it, at all.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: DixyCrat

I'd rather some idiot say stupid things than we restrict the press.

And Faux has so many idiots, all of whom are so very willing to take every opportunity to say stupid things. That's what Rupert pays them to do. :laugh:
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: microbial
Nice timing Fox.

Colin Powell just finished summarizing very nicely that essentially John McCain has run a small. petty, and trivial campaign, citing the focus on Bill Ayers for one--and that's partly why he's endorsing Barack Obama.

He stopped short of saying slanderous and race-bating--but those fit too.

Maybe Fox's motto should be: "Fair, Balanced, petty and trivial"

You can be your sweet ass that had Powell endorsed McCain, that is all they would be running for the next 2 weeks. In as much as that, they are fucking frauds.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Since the Giants took an early lead over SF I turned back to news. Fox is running an hour long program Barak Obama the ties that bind.

This represents Fox giving McCain a free 1 hour campaign commercial. I wonder if Fox can be fined for this? I think this is how Fox will operate until election day continuing to help McCain. 15 minutes before this campaign commerical they didn't even discuss the Powell endorsement.

The concept of restricting free speech is a very scary concept... I'd rather some idiot say stupid things than we restrict the press.

Not against free speech but during election season there are equal time requirements. Unless they plan an hour long special on the Keating 5 it may be actionable.

As long as they aren't saying "vote McCain" the they can legally swift-boat Obama. The whole concept of 'equal time' is ridiculous, why don't any of the 3rd party candidates get equal time? Who is to say what is 'bias', as that is a matter of perspective.

If you have to have 'at least 10% in polls' to get equal-time then why not 45% why not have to have had a 'win' in a major national election... why not make it so only the party in power can be the ones that can buy air time? Destroying freedom is a dangerous game.

When you try to force people to speak as you want you destroy personal freedom of speech.. I for one am not willing to trade an untenable concept of 'fairness' for our constitutionally granted right to free speech.

Under the (previously repealed) equal time requirements, would that even effect FOX news channel? IIRC, equal time only applied to the public broadcast spectrum, i.e. OTA TV and AM/FM radio. This was because there is only a limited number of slots to give out in the spectrum, and the airwaves are considered a public resource. Cable TV would probably be exempt from this as they are brought to the customer only via cable or sattelite service, but the FOX local affilliates and their talk radio would not be.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
This is illegal. This is a campaign contribution, pure and simple.

Then shouldn't the time and effort of every human that goes about supporting any candidate be considered a campaign contribution?
 

Red Dawn

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Pravda..err. Fox News is entitled to run anything they want. This won't matter to anyone but idiots anyway.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pravda..err. Fox News is entitled to run anything they want. This won't matter to anyone but idiots anyway.

Never understimat the number of idiots in America.
Or this forum.
 

midway

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Does providing equal time mean that for everyone you have on who says 1+1=2 you have to have someone on who says 1+1=pie ?
 

SecPro

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by:

Never understimat the number of idiots in America.
Or this forum.

This forum got credited with two additional idiots when you created an account.

I'd be curious what all the partisan hacks here think of MSNBC. They're running a close second behind Faux News as a pretend news organization. Olberman and Mathews being the lead ass clowns over there.

Or are they telling you what you want to hear so everything is OK?
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Under the (previously repealed) equal time requirements, would that even effect FOX news channel? IIRC, equal time only applied to the public broadcast spectrum, i.e. OTA TV and AM/FM radio. This was because there is only a limited number of slots to give out in the spectrum, and the airwaves are considered a public resource. Cable TV would probably be exempt from this as they are brought to the customer only via cable or sattelite service, but the FOX local affilliates and their talk radio would not be.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Someone who understands the legal differences between publicly-licensed broadcast and other media.

Of course, even if they were broadcast, and the equal-time law were still in place, they could make the argument that this qualifies as a "news" piece, exempt from regulation. It would fall to someone objecting to that view to demonstrate that the program was not a valid news report.
 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: SecPro
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by:

Never understimat the number of idiots in America.
Or this forum.

This forum got credited with two additional idiots when you created an account.

I'd be curious what all the partisan hacks here think of MSNBC. They're running a close second behind Faux News as a pretend news organization. Olberman and Mathews being the lead ass clowns over there.

Or are they telling you what you want to hear so everything is OK?


While I'm sure many Righties don't like the opinions often expressed, I think MSNBC does a much better job separating news from opinion than FOX ever has...

And, uhh, no, MSNBC doesn't necessarily tell me what I want to hear, at all, but I'm sure FOX will be providing their ongoing fix for all the rightwing outrage addicts out there... even if they have to make it up as they go...
 

owensdj

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Fox News has turned into a 24/7 campaign ad for McCain/Palin. Doesn't that violate some kind of campaign law?
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: owensdj
Fox News has turned into a 24/7 campaign ad for McCain/Palin. Doesn't that violate some kind of campaign law?

No. This is a "news piece" on "william ayers". As long as they report on him and do not reference the current campaign, it is fair game.

Shady, but fair game.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: SecPro

I'd be curious what all the partisan hacks here think of MSNBC. They're running a close second behind Faux News as a pretend news organization. Olberman and Mathews being the lead ass clowns over there.

Or are they telling you what you want to hear so everything is OK?

Thanks for your uninformed, uninformative blather. If you were really that curious, you'd have links to prove that MS-NBC has anything as one sided and full of shit as Faux's attempt at a hatchet job.

Or as one well known Republican said, just today:

And I've also been disappointed, frankly, by some of the approaches that Senator McCain has taken recently, or his campaign ads, on issues that are not really central to the problems that the American people are worried about. This Bill Ayers situation that's been going on for weeks became something of a central point of the campaign. But Mr. McCain says that he's a washed-out terrorist. Well, then, why do we keep talking about him? And why do we have these robocalls going on around the country trying to suggest that, because of this very, very limited relationship that Senator Obama has had with Mr. Ayers, somehow, Mr. Obama is tainted. What they're trying to connect him to is some kind of terrorist feelings. And I think that's inappropriate.

Now, I understand what politics is all about. I know how you can go after one another, and that's good. But I think this goes too far. And I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for.
 

SecPro

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: SecPro

I'd be curious what all the partisan hacks here think of MSNBC. They're running a close second behind Faux News as a pretend news organization. Olberman and Mathews being the lead ass clowns over there.

Or are they telling you what you want to hear so everything is OK?

Thanks for your uninformed, uninformative blather. If you were really that curious, you'd have links to prove that MS-NBC has anything as one sided and full of shit as Faux's attempt at a hatchet job.

Or as one well known Republican said, just today:

And I've also been disappointed, frankly, by some of the approaches that Senator McCain has taken recently, or his campaign ads, on issues that are not really central to the problems that the American people are worried about. This Bill Ayers situation that's been going on for weeks became something of a central point of the campaign. But Mr. McCain says that he's a washed-out terrorist. Well, then, why do we keep talking about him? And why do we have these robocalls going on around the country trying to suggest that, because of this very, very limited relationship that Senator Obama has had with Mr. Ayers, somehow, Mr. Obama is tainted. What they're trying to connect him to is some kind of terrorist feelings. And I think that's inappropriate.

Now, I understand what politics is all about. I know how you can go after one another, and that's good. But I think this goes too far. And I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for.

No links necessary. All you have to do is turn it on and listen to the aforementioned ass clowns (or Rachel Maddow) and you will have all the material you need. If you're willing to be objective.

BTW, you have exactly zero grounds to call anyone's post here "blather". That nauseating, putrid shit you have in your signature is the worst noise to ever come out of a pair of computer speakers. It doesn't even rise to the level of blather.
 

SP33Demon

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Why doesn't Rupert just donate a 300 million to McCain so he can buy major network ads as well? Fox running stuff on Ayers is just sad. What a waste of campaign time for McCain.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Only ones who will watch this are the fox shock troops anyway, so they're preaching to the choir.

:thumbsup: Just another dagger in the pathetic GOP. I'll be helping throw some dirt on their coffin when I mail my absentee ballot today. :)
 
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I just wish faux news would come out of the goddamned closet already.

"Hi, I'm faux news and I'm a republican mouthpiece"
"Hi faux!"

They'd be much more at peace, not having to repress these conservative feelings in public, defending neo-cons, while never really admitting to themselves how troubled they are, how they can't really be who they are, how the other news organizations make fun of them at lunch calling them names. I think it would lift a heavy burden both from their shoulders and hearts.
 

JD50

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I haven't even watched FNC in several months now, but I do love how they get all of the lefties panties in a bunch. Good job Fox!