Fox News Reporting: Secrets of 9/11

[TechAZ]

The truthers in this thread have gone beyond just saying things to stand out for attention, they have a mental disorder.

 

[airdata]

*hug* TastesLikeChicken, Let's be friends. I just tire of seeing 'truther this, truther that' and want label I can stick on whatever broad group of people you align yourself with.

You tell a "truther" that they cannot disprove something, and yet you can't disprove what the truther says.

and yes, your reference to something being over my head obviously is since I have no idea what you could be referring to.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

*hug* TastesLikeChicken, Let's be friends. I just tire of seeing 'truther this, truther that' and want label I can stick on whatever broad group of people you align yourself with.

You tell a "truther" that they cannot disprove something, and yet you can't disprove what the truther says.

and yes, your reference to something being over my head obviously is since I have no idea what you could be referring to.

A truther doesn't actually say anything. You guys refuse to do so. Your entire schtick is composed of trying to disprove the official theory. So ask youself again who the real "deniers" are. We can't deny a theory that truthers can't seem to manage to produce in the first place.

And maybe you haven't read many of the 9/11 threads in here but myself and many others constantly prove the truthers wrong. We show one where their claims fail and another comes along later and regurgitates the very same crap that has been beaten down time and time again. Truthers all ride the same clown car and repeat the same routines every time a new one exits the vehicle. Come up with some new material. We've laughed at the same old crap for too long now.

 

[airdata]

All I'm saying is that the US government has proven time and time again that they're more than willing to lie cheat and steal.

It's harder to conceal lies now with the internet around, so it's plausible that they'd need to get more creative.

Let's just look at 2 incidents. Gulf of Tonkin, we went to war over this and anybody with a computer can see that nothing ever happened. They were lying to get a reason to goto war, and it worked. Of course people had to wait 30-40 years for the internet and FOIA to be able to learn this.

Non existent WMD in iraq. We knew the intel was bad, and yet we ran it on the news 24 hours a day until the war drums were beating loud enough and then we went to war. Then when there was no WMD to speak of, we changed operation names and pretended we went over there to liberate the iraqi's just because sadaam wasn't playing by our rules any longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Eisenhower warns the american people about the military industrial complex.

Of course, when you have 19 guys using stolen passports, so you don't actually know their real identities, it's kinda hard to wage war on whatever country they're from. So you pick the guy who has direct CIA ties and who's family has been doing business with the Bush family for years. And then you doctor videos of him and mis-translate because what america speaks hindi or whatever he speaks? And with that, you have perfectly good reason to go occupy one of the most under-developed mineral rich places on the planet.

So now as a benefit of having occupied Afghanistan for the last 10 years, we opened up the heroin floodgates and come upon trillions of dollars in precious medals we could surely use since our economy is in the shitter.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

All I'm saying is that the US government has proven time and time again that they're more than willing to lie cheat and steal.

It's harder to conceal lies now with the internet around, so it's plausible that they'd need to get more creative.

Let's just look at 2 incidents. Gulf of Tonkin, we went to war over this and anybody with a computer can see that nothing ever happened. They were lying to get a reason to goto war, and it worked. Of course people had to wait 30-40 years for the internet and FOIA to be able to learn this.

Non existent WMD in iraq. We knew the intel was bad, and yet we ran it on the news 24 hours a day until the war drums were beating loud enough and then we went to war. Then when there was no WMD to speak of, we changed operation names and pretended we went over there to liberate the iraqi's just because sadaam wasn't playing by our rules any longer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Eisenhower warns the american people about the military industrial complex.

Of course, when you have 19 guys using stolen passports, so you don't actually know their real identities, it's kinda hard to wage war on whatever country they're from. So you pick the guy who has direct CIA ties and who's family has been doing business with the Bush family for years. And then you doctor videos of him and mis-translate because what america speaks hindi or whatever he speaks? And with that, you have perfectly good reason to go occupy one of the most under-developed mineral rich places on the planet.

So now as a benefit of having occupied Afghanistan for the last 10 years, we opened up the heroin floodgates and come upon trillions of dollars in precious medals we could surely use since our economy is in the shitter.

Using your reasoning above you shouldn't trust truthers either since it has been demonstrated over and over again that they lie, take statements out of context, and have willfully misrepresented facts about 9/11. Yet that doesn't seem to bother you though since you continue to parrot truther crap that has been debunked many times over.

So don't preach to anyone about who should be trusted and who shouldn't when you blindly support your own pack of liars.

 

[First]

Honestly wish you could have conversations in person with some truthers. Once you confront these nuts in person it's not particularly hard to break them down with some basic Socratic methodology.

 

[kylebisme]

His reasoning for the alternate is that the Federal Government was starting to investigate some companies on Wall Street regrading fraud.

No, my reasoning for rejecting the official story for how the WTC building came down is that I don't believe such impact damages and fires could bring buildings down nearly so quickly and completely. I've simply noted the fact that the SEC was storing a lot of their Enron and Worldcom files in WTC 7 as a reason why some people would want to rig the building to come down. Furthermore, what you claimed as my position on the matter in the rest of your post isn't even close, just some nonsense you came up with on your own.

 

[al981]

Clouds that aren't "lingering", and look more like dust being pushed by the rounds than smoke from the rounds, if you noticed the shots hitting around Whitman made the same "smoke" clouds.

Why would someone smoking be less likely to flee the area when shooting starts than anyone else? The fact is that it's a much more likely reason for a lingering cloud of smoke than a gun shot. Unless you think that the assassins used were rank amateurs.

LoL! little jonny still lying like a bitch. clearly, smoke from gunshots seen hundreds of feet away and across the entire campus. fuck you liar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8XilYCP2k#t=4m0s

clearly, the jfk witnesses were not mistaken.
also more footage which kyle posted earlier:
"There is a smoke cloud after each shot in footage of the event."

 

[al981]

His alternate theories have to many holes punched in them that they are unusable. They have more holes in them than he can punch in the official story.

That is why they are not official.

common courtesy finally makes a return to the thread, although he still doesn't have the courage or courtesy to admit he was dead wrong about the year jowers died. time to man up and admit you were dead wrong.

feel free to dodge forensic science stating there is no connection between james earl ray and the supposed rifle.

http://articles.cnn.com/1997-07-11/...es-earl-ray-rifle-judge-joseph-brown?_s=PM:US

 

[al981]

I love when some Truthers will claim scientific reasoning as the crux of their arguments without being able to admit that any scientific theory with major logical holes, gaps in timelines and little to no evidence for their existence overall would be considered bunk scientific theories. Which is why the "theory" of 19 Saudi hijackers, which has significant hard evidence, corroboration, and few timeline gaps or logical inconsistencies is overwhelmingly considered the preeminent explanation for 9/11. Not patently false and absurd Truther "physics" explanations for WTC7's collapse or demolitions with no hard evidence or conspiracies with not a single American citizen coming forward to admit any such plot. It's tough for Truthers to admit, which is why they always fail to nut up with specifics.

of course, when truthers have scientific forensic / ballistics proof on their side, liars like you will continue to claim ignorance in hopes nobody else will notice the official story is a lie. MLK cover-up as a perfect example. let's see you acknowledge such scientific facts. :

http://articles.cnn.com/1997-07-11/...es-earl-ray-rifle-judge-joseph-brown?_s=PM:US
http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx



inc dodge! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

plenty of audio, visual, and corroborating testimonials challenging the official 9/11 lie have been posted in other threads (along with Oklahoma City cover-up links in this thread), which you have also intentionally ignored in order to continue parroting the official lies. :biggrin: now, be a good little liar and dodge the above.

 

[al981]

A truther doesn't actually say anything. You guys refuse to do so. Your entire schtick is composed of trying to disprove the official theory. So ask youself again who the real "deniers" are. We can't deny a theory that truthers can't seem to manage to produce in the first place.

And maybe you haven't read many of the 9/11 threads in here but myself and many others constantly prove the truthers wrong. We show one where their claims fail and another comes along later and regurgitates the very same crap that has been beaten down time and time again. Truthers all ride the same clown car and repeat the same routines every time a new one exits the vehicle. Come up with some new material. We've laughed at the same old crap for too long now.

funny thing about truthers. all it takes is for them to present one single fact that destroys the official government lies, and then they'll sit around watching liars like you dodge for years.

for example,
http://articles.cnn.com/1997-07-11/...es-earl-ray-rifle-judge-joseph-brown?_s=PM:US
http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

oops, there goes the MLK cover-up. darn scientific ballistics proof getting in the way again! you won't hear a peep out of LyingChicken though... he can't handle it! he has continually lied and made false claims about thermite (where Sunder is on video directly contradicting him LOLOL), and ignored all audio, visual, and corroborating eyewitness accounts that could possibly challenge and contradict his official fairy tale. but hey, let's watch him dodge the above with the usual excuses again!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

funny thing about truthers. all it takes is for them to present one single fact that destroys the official government lies, and then they'll sit around watching liars like you dodge for years.

for example,
http://articles.cnn.com/1997-07-11/...es-earl-ray-rifle-judge-joseph-brown?_s=PM:US
http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

oops, there goes the MLK cover-up. darn scientific ballistics proof getting in the way again! you won't hear a peep out of LyingChicken though... he can't handle it! he has continually lied and made false claims about thermite (where Sunder is on video directly contradicting him LOLOL), and ignored all audio, visual, and corroborating eyewitness accounts that could possibly challenge and contradict his official fairy tale. but hey, let's watch him dodge the above with the usual excuses again!

"Truthers" refer to people talking about 9/11. I am talking about 9/11. This thread is about 9/11. I don't give a flying fuck about your pathetic attempt to railroad this thread onto a completely different subject so go blow all your misplaced bravado out your ass you moronically clueless fuckwit.

 

[al981]

"Truthers" refer to people talking about 9/11. I am talking about 9/11. This thread is about 9/11. I don't give a flying fuck about your pathetic attempt to railroad this thread onto a completely different subject so go blow all your misplaced bravado out your ass you moronically clueless fuckwit.

LOL! U mad, son? LyingChicken continuing to dodge the truth. Truth of science / ballistics proof that destroys US government's lies about MLK, and the proven liar resorts to his old "but but but this thread is about 9/11" copout. Truthers doesn't just refer to those destroying 9/11 government lies, it refers to all who have proven the US government has no credibility and has repeatedly lied, conspired, and killed US citizens in the past. Fuck you, liar. You never did own up to Sunder on video directly contradicting all your previous thermite lies. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

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When you can pull your head out of your ass and see that this thread is not about MLK, try posting again. Until that time you are doing nothing more than continually reinforcing that you're an ignorant fool. See my sig for verification of that statement.

 

[al981]

When you can pull your head out of your ass and see that this thread is not about MLK, try posting again. Until that time you are doing nothing more than continually reinforcing that you're an ignorant fool. See my sig for verification of that statement.

MLK ballistics is proof your government is full of shit. That is why you continue dodging like a proven pussy. No US government conspiracies were mentioned in the original post or show, so your sig means absolutely nothing. Funny how you also dodged the fact that Sunder directly contradicted all thermite claims you erroneously made. Oops, direct 9/11 reference there, yet you dodged it again because you are a proven liar who doesn't have the courage to acknowledge you were dead wrong. Continue dodging, liar! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

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You're a fucking clueless idiot.

 

[al981]

You're a fucking clueless idiot.

keep on dodgin, chicken shit! can't even man up and acknowledge sunder destroyed all your arguments. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

 

[EagleKeeper]

common courtesy finally makes a return to the thread, although he still doesn't have the courage or courtesy to admit he was dead wrong about the year jowers died. time to man up and admit you were dead wrong.

feel free to dodge forensic science stating there is no connection between james earl ray and the supposed rifle.

http://articles.cnn.com/1997-07-11/...es-earl-ray-rifle-judge-joseph-brown?_s=PM:US

My old man taught me to know when not to argue with idiots.

They will always beat you by experience.:|

 

[airdata]

Hypothetical situation : You leave your wallet at the gym. I take your wallet, rob a bank and conveniently leave you wallet at the scene. Why should the authorities worry about finding who actually did it if they have your id?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

Sunday, 23 September, 2001, 12:30 GMT 13:30 UK Hijack 'suspects' alive and well

A man called Waleed Al Shehri says he left the US a year ago


Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.
The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.
Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.
His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.
Hijacking suspects
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi

Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami

Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour

Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi


Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.
He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.
But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.
Mistaken identity

Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports.

Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his passport in Denver'

He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.
Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the English-language Arab News.
The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says.
Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.

Khalid Al-Midhar may also be alive


He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.
And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.
FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.

 

[xj0hnx]

~snipping for oozing igorance

Al981, you have proven over and over that you are an ignorant fool that doesn't have any real life knowledge about anything, and have to run to youtube to get your information. You are a classic fucking moron and will from here on out be regarded as nothing more than such.

 

[airdata]

Using your reasoning above you shouldn't trust truthers either since it has been demonstrated over and over again that they lie, take statements out of context, and have willfully misrepresented facts about 9/11. Yet that doesn't seem to bother you though since you continue to parrot truther crap that has been debunked many times over.

So don't preach to anyone about who should be trusted and who shouldn't when you blindly support your own pack of liars.

So, once again I post facts and you post meaningless comments. WMD, Debunked. Gulf of Tonkin, Debunked. So 2 of our major wars have been over total bullshit.

That isn't even something we can argue about because it's proven fact. And thanks to the internet you can go look it up.

 

[airdata]

xjohnx : I can see your ignoring al981 as his posts are rather hostile. But the concept of youtube being unreliable is silly. There is plenty of good information on youtube, Russia Today, and even Al Jazeera.

Where do you go for your information?




I'm going to literally LOL if you say Fox News.

 

[xj0hnx]

xjohnx : I can see your ignoring al981 as his posts are rather hostile. But the concept of youtube being unreliable is silly. There is plenty of good information on youtube, Russia Today, and even Al Jazeera.

Where do you go for your information?




I'm going to literally LOL if you say Fox News.

I don't watch much TV, and don't care for cable "news". I read a lot of papers, watch local news, and not local news, read things here and there on the internet, and compare them to the things I've seen in my 40 years to come up with my views. There may be a lot of good stuff on Youtube, but there's also a woeful amount of misinformed BS, and straight up lies.

 

[airdata]

True. But newspapers are obsolete.

 

[fskimospy]

True. But newspapers are obsolete.

Of course newspapers also have a reputation to care about, unlike creators of Youtube videos.