Fox News Lacks Basic Journalism Ethics

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NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
That O'Reilley video is hilarious. I can't believe he actually made those things up about Glick.

Glick's points were stupid, he was blaming bush because we supported the afghans during the soviet invasion which is true. Osama becomes a huge hero in Saudi Arabia but rejects it and becomes a terrorist instead who advocates the overthrow of the Saud dynasty and of course Death to America.
 

conjur

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And Glick was right. What is stupid about that? :confused:


More on O'Reilly:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/pundits/bill-oreilly/
22 May 2003 On The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly declares: "The bad news for President Bush comes on the weapons of mass destruction front... The U.S. has captured enough scientists like Dr. Germ and Ms. Anthrax, or whomever, to get a picture of what Saddam Hussein had or didn't have. The Bush administration needs to begin explaining the situation. Talking Points understands time is needed, but the right wing spin that Saddam was a deadly weapon himself isn't going to cut it here. The American people must have honest, accurate intelligence in a world this dangerous. This is a vital issue that we hope will be candidly addressed by the President and soon."
9 Jul 2003 On The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly declares: "If Bush lied -- if he lied -- I'll be the first one to hang him, OK?"
11 Jul 2003 On The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly declares: "President Bush cherry-picked intelligence that pointed to WMDs inside Iraq. Now he's got some explaining to do. The anti-Bush zealots, of course, don't want to hear any explanations. They've already convicted Bush of lying. This is, of course, irresponsible. It is possible the President did lie, but most of the credible evidence points to wishful thinking on WMDs, rather than outright deception."
28 Jul 2003 In a opinion piece, Bill O'Reilly writes: "The Bush administration better find Saddam, Osama bin Laden and Mullah Mohammed Omar and it better explain the WMD situation. If it does not, history and the American people will render judgment, and it will most likely not be kind."

Of course, Bill is now a big Bush apologist.

That BookTV video had O'Reilly talking over a Muslim caller who said O'Reilly compared the Qu'ran to Mein Kampf. O'Reilly said that was a flat-out lie.

Oh?
27 Aug 2002 During a discussion with Dr. Robert Kirkpatrick about assigning the book Approaching the Koran: The Early Revelations on The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly draws a parallel with being forced to read Adolf Hitler's autobiography in 1941: "I wouldn't read the book. And I'll tell you why I wouldn't have read Mein Kampf either. If I were going to UNC in 1941, and you, professor, said, 'Read Mein Kampf,' I would have said, 'Hey, professor -- with all due respect, shove it. I ain't reading it.'"

I wonder what he meant, then?
 

OneOfTheseDays

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where's bozack??? I've been saying this for months now, and he constantly argues that CNN/MSNBC are just as bad. They are not just as bad, in fact, they aren't even close to as bad. CNN has Crossfire, what does FOX News have?
 

glenn1

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Fox News Lacks Basic Journalism Ethics: important campaign reporter's wife a Bush campaign worker

That's the weakest supporting evidence for a charge I think i've ever seen in these forums. WTF does what someone's wife think about political issues have anything to do with an employee's ethics? That doesn't even rise to the level of pathetic. Maybe we should call your parents' places of employment unethical because of your political views. That makes as much sense as your stupid argument.

And if you don't like Fox because you think it's biased, don't watch it. Problem solved.
 

Red Dawn

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I actually prefer Fox News. Knowing how biased they are allows me to take the news with a grain of salt. O'Riely is my favorite News/Commentary Program!
 

Todd33

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Glick's point were not stupid, but he hardly got a word in. He was trying to say that the killing of innocent civilians should not be avenged with more death of innocent civilians. The points that we the US made OSL is not irrlelevent and hardly any of the general public know it. O'reily made it sound like he was making up BS, when everything he said was true.
 

conjur

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FOX News' John Gibson's false claim: "80-some percent of reporters are self-described liberals"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200407140006
In his "My Word" segment on the July 12 edition of FOX News Channel's The Big Story with John Gibson, host John Gibson responded to charges of conservative bias at FOX -- showcased in the new documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism -- by falsely claiming, "You have America's major media dominated by the left; 80-some percent of reporters are self-described liberals." He repeated this falsehood in his July 13 "My Word" column, "Liberals Bashing FOX News ... Again," published on the FOX News Channel's website.

Gibson was off by about 46 percent. A report released on May 23 by The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 34 percent of national journalists identified themselves as liberal; 54 percent identified themselves as moderate; and 7 percent identified themselves as conservative. Twenty-three percent of local journalists identified themselves as liberal; 61 percent identified themselves as moderate; and 12 percent identified themselves as conservative.

Even if Gibson had correctly stated the Pew report's numbers and said that 34 -- not "80-some" -- percent of national reporters are "self-described liberals," he would still have been disregarding commentary by Bill Kovach, Tom Rosenstiel and Amy Mitchell (Kovach is chairman of the Committee of Concerned Journalists; Tom Rosenstiel and Amy Mitchell are director and associate director, respectively, of the Project for Excellence in Journalism), which was included in the Pew report and specifically warned against drawing such conclusions:

Journalists' own politics are also harder to analyze than people might think. The fact that journalists -- especially national journalists -- are more likely than in the past to describe themselves as liberal reinforces the findings of the major academic study on this question... But what does liberal mean to journalists? We would be reluctant to infer too much here. The survey includes just four questions probing journalists' political attitudes, yet the answers to these questions suggest journalists have in mind something other than a classic big government liberalism and something more along the lines of libertarianism. More journalists said they think it is more important for people to be free to pursue their goals without government interference than it is for government to ensure that no one is in need.

Just as we see up here, neocons treat people who are more Libertarian than liberal/socialist as if they were liberal/socialist.

I guess to the extreme right, anything left of that would be. :roll:


FOX is so pathetically useless anymore.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Chris A
Fox is still the number one news show.

Because sheep don't care to know the truth.

BTW, I think you meant to say FOX is still the number one cable news channel. Even then, it's more infotainment than news.

Why do you think Limbaugh and Hannity are so successful? They appeal to the lowest common denominator with patriotic rhetoric.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Chris A
Fox is still the number one news show.

Because sheep don't care to know the truth.

BTW, I think you meant to say FOX is still the number one cable news channel. Even then, it's more infotainment than news.

Why do you think Limbaugh and Hannity are so successful? They appeal to the lowest common denominator with patriotic rhetoric.
People hate themselves. They will gravitate like flies to poo for anything that gives them the illusion of self worth. Everybody knows that being a patriot is good. Everybody knows the US is good. Being the greatest patriot in the greatest country makes me great great great. The trouble comes when you discover that to be a real patriot you gots ta think and be self critical. Oh sh!t it means I got ta look at my worthless self. Oh no, I just hate that part.
 

irwincur

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Funny that the President of ABC news was Al Gore's best friend. Oh and Tom Brokaw is also a good friend. What was that about two VPs at CBS, also Gore's friends. Hmm, didn't he hold a media dinner with 50 of his closest friends in the national media? Hmm. Kerry went to the President of ABC news the day before picking Edward's to get his approval for the choice. The major news networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, and Turner) donate more to the Democrats (a lot more if you are ABC) than Republicans. Fox is about 60/30/10, no too bad.

FOX - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=6893
ABC - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=8091
CBS - http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?first=Mel&last=Karmazin&st=
NBC - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=5936
CNN - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=7855

OK, now add all of the blue, and all of the red. BIG SURPRISE, MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS FAVOR THE DEMOCRATS NEARLY 2:1. If I had time I would go into individule contributions of board members and the picture would become even more blue, close to Mel Karmazin's at almost 100% Democrat contributions. How can you be balanced news when your bosses are the largest liberal donors in the nation?
 

Chris A

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irwincur,
They will never read your links.. Just a lot of hate will be spewed your way... After all the ends justify the means...
 

irwincur

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I know, but then they cannot accuse me of not using links. Plus I just used them in another forum so it was easy to paste them into this one.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Funny that the President of ABC news was Al Gore's best friend. Oh and Tom Brokaw is also a good friend. What was that about two VPs at CBS, also Gore's friends. Hmm, didn't he hold a media dinner with 50 of his closest friends in the national media? Hmm. Kerry went to the President of ABC news the day before picking Edward's to get his approval for the choice. The major news networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, and Turner) donate more to the Democrats (a lot more if you are ABC) than Republicans. Fox is about 60/30/10, no too bad.

FOX - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=6893
ABC - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=8091
CBS - http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?first=Mel&last=Karmazin&st=
NBC - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=5936
CNN - http://www.followyourmoney.com/cgi-bin/FYM.cgi?p=find_company&company_id=7855

OK, now add all of the blue, and all of the red. BIG SURPRISE, MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS FAVOR THE DEMOCRATS NEARLY 2:1. If I had time I would go into individule contributions of board members and the picture would become even more blue, close to Mel Karmazin's at almost 100% Democrat contributions. How can you be balanced news when your bosses are the largest liberal donors in the nation?

I could make up pretty pie charts, too.

There's no detail at all behind those numbers. No dates, no contributor names, nothing.