Fox News has really dropped all pretense of being "fair and balanced"

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Examples?

You are not being intellectually honest if you need examples.

Let's take for starters how when Bill Clinton entered the fray, media sympathetic to Obama slowly but surely attacked the credibility of the very man they once heralded as the greatest President since sliced bread, and made the nomination process about race rather than experience or policy.

Or how news outlets suppressed the Reverend Wright story, who continues to prove he is every bit the racist attention whore we thought he was.

Fox News has an obvious bias, which makes them less dangerous because you can see the flag they fly from a mile away...other news outlets, particularly the NYTimes and MSNBC, have a more subtle bias...and they parade themselves around as reputable media outlets, when in reality they sometimes serve as propaganda machines as well.

People are increasingly wanting to watch news stations, or read news articles, that align to their worldview. The success of Fox News rose from the left leaning bias in other news outlets. It upsets you because you don't understand why.

That is why I am increasingly turning to raw news feeds...I don't need Bill O'Reilly or Anderson Cooper or Chris Matthews to tell me how to interpret what is going on in the world.

Rev. Wright was supressed? I couldn't turn on the news without seeing media speculation on it, whether it was during primary season or when it was rehashed during the presidential campaign.

 

[kage69]

Speaking of not being intellectually honest...

Fox News has an obvious bias, which makes them less dangerous because you can see the flag they fly from a mile away...

While true, you make no mention of the other favored FOX tactic, the strategy of omission. They are as selective in what they don't present, as they are with what they do present. People have trouble spotting flags when there just aren't any, period. No other media outlet cherry-picks stories to the degree that Fox does. Bias comes in a variety of forms, and I have yet to see anything short of state-run media that approaches the political sensitivities of NewsCorp. It makes their other slogan of "We Report, You Decide" only slightly less ridiculous than the "Fair and Balanced" schtick.

The success of Fox News rose from the left leaning bias in other news outlets.

Negative. The success of Fox News rose from what it paid the networks (up to an unheard of $11 per subscriber I believe it was) when it was breaking into the media scene. In addition, Fox quickly become masterful at stroking the conservative ego while at the same time shielding it from unpleasant news. That's quality entertainment for many who have neither the time or intelligence to pursue topical and relevant news from credible sources.

It's worrying that you put Anderson Cooper and Chris Matthews in the same category as O'Reilly.

 

[JD50]

I think the OP complains about FNC more than anyone I've ever seen, you're worse than Olbermann.
You need one of these

 

[fskimospy]

Fox is simply a byproduct of the 'hostile media phenomenon'. When people are told things by the news that they agree with, they assume the source is credible. When they are told news that goes against what they believe, they chalk it up to the media being biased. It's not rational, it's not based in any facts, it's just what people do. Fox News realized this, and they made an entire channel based around telling the right wing of America exactly what it wanted to hear.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

one of the executives insisted we have it on the tv's here at work.

That's really lousy. I'd look for a way to get that changed if you can. What company?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fox is simply a byproduct of the 'hostile media phenomenon'. When people are told things by the news that they agree with, they assume the source is credible. When they are told news that goes against what they believe, they chalk it up to the media being biased. It's not rational, it's not based in any facts, it's just what people do. Fox News realized this, and they made an entire channel based around telling the right wing of America exactly what it wanted to hear.

I'll agree with that, just look at MSNBC trying to copy FNC.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fox is simply a byproduct of the 'hostile media phenomenon'. When people are told things by the news that they agree with, they assume the source is credible. When they are told news that goes against what they believe, they chalk it up to the media being biased. It's not rational, it's not based in any facts, it's just what people do. Fox News realized this, and they made an entire channel based around telling the right wing of America exactly what it wanted to hear.

I'll agree with that, just look at MSNBC trying to copy FNC.

Actually all Cable News stations are a joke. I just find Fox to be the worse as they don't even try to put on a facade of being unbiased. In a way they are being honest..well if you don't include their motto if "Fair and Balanced"

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fox is simply a byproduct of the 'hostile media phenomenon'. When people are told things by the news that they agree with, they assume the source is credible. When they are told news that goes against what they believe, they chalk it up to the media being biased. It's not rational, it's not based in any facts, it's just what people do. Fox News realized this, and they made an entire channel based around telling the right wing of America exactly what it wanted to hear.

I'll agree with that, just look at MSNBC trying to copy FNC.

Actually all Cable News stations are a joke. I just find Fox to be the worse as they don't even try to put on a facade of being unbiased. In a way they are being honest..well if you don't include their motto if "Fair and Balanced"

yeah, I think MSNBC beat them to it when they started draggin up moveon.org "reporters" to give news analysis on their shows.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause outrage

this

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

then they're gonna need to do a better job at picking images cause after skimming those they are way too ordinary to have any effect.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

then they're gonna need to do a better job at picking images cause after skimming those they are way too ordinary to have any effect.

Subliminal messages.

It may be soothing to try to minimize them but they are not nothing.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fox is simply a byproduct of the 'hostile media phenomenon'. When people are told things by the news that they agree with, they assume the source is credible. When they are told news that goes against what they believe, they chalk it up to the media being biased. It's not rational, it's not based in any facts, it's just what people do. Fox News realized this, and they made an entire channel based around telling the right wing of America exactly what it wanted to hear.

I'll agree with that, just look at MSNBC trying to copy FNC.

Actually all Cable News stations are a joke. I just find Fox to be the worse as they don't even try to put on a facade of being unbiased. In a way they are being honest..well if you don't include their motto if "Fair and Balanced"

ABC -> Obama infomercial -> pot/kettle/black

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

then they're gonna need to do a better job at picking images cause after skimming those they are way too ordinary to have any effect.

Subliminal messages.

It may be soothing to try to minimize them but they are not nothing.

yeah, why don't you give tell us about how bush bombed the trade centers while you have that hat on.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Source?

Foxnews?

Hey, I'm really good at Photoshop too.

You libs have plenty of time to be doing this on your mac at starbucks anywho

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

then they're gonna need to do a better job at picking images cause after skimming those they are way too ordinary to have any effect.

Subliminal messages.

It may be soothing to try to minimize them but they are not nothing.

yeah, why don't you give tell us about how bush bombed the trade centers while you have that hat on.

Because I don't talk about things I don't believe. Do you?

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://j.photos.cx/foxnews152b-afd.jpg

warning: may cause anger

about what? a bunch of random shows taken from a tv show?

About the fact that people are keeping records of the chicanery at fox news. The frequency indicates more than honest mistakes. It reveals intentional manipulation. What's not clear at this point is whether the viewers are this easily manipulated.

then they're gonna need to do a better job at picking images cause after skimming those they are way too ordinary to have any effect.

I guess intellectual dishonesty is your cup of tea because I personally think it's outrageous. Fox "News" consistently mislabeled politicians' party when they were involved in a scandal, covered for GOP scandals/failures and tried to spin every minor piece of news into something that was for the GOP or against the Democrats.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
Freaky.

I'm sure they're just honest mistakes. If republicans are anything, they're really, really honest, forthright and upstanding citizens.

honest the first time maybe, but four times man all the same type of mistake too