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werepossum

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I expected the GOP to screw it up. But I didn't expect Hillary's post-loss pity party. Guess that's what happens when some irrelevant hangers-on can't fade from public life with dignity.

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Dude, it's not a pity party. It's business. The Clintons have built a massive not-for-profit foundation built on donations from the ultra wealthy who have business interests in front of the US government. For those donations to continue, either Hillary or Bill have to politically viable for future office or influence. For that to happen, Hillary has to show that losing wasn't her fault and thus, that running (and winning) is still an option for her. This must continue until either Chelsea is viable or until Bill or Hillary achieve some international regulatory power.

Beyond that, a book tour to me sounds just as legit as a speaking tour, in which practically ALL powerful politicians since Reagan have engaged. At least this way, a lot of the revenue coming from willing donations from ordinary people.
 

werepossum

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So to be clear you are claiming that all the other agencies were bribed too? Or is it that you think Clinton was going to invent a reason to derail a perfectly innocuous deal unless she got paid? What? Please spell it out as clearly as you can.

Your ability to invent conspiracies out of thin air is as always, amazing. First it was Clinton’s actions that were corrupt. Now Clinton’s LACK of action is evidence of corruption. Lol.

It was front page news everywhere today, not sure how anyone with working eyeballs could have missed it.

Chalk it up to another case of conservatives declaring media bias even if they have to invent it themselves.
As I said, I don't think anyone was bribed. But Hillary as SecState has a unique history of not meeting with people until they become contributors. What I'm suggesting is that those donations are merely greasing the skids so that she neither opposed it or delayed it. It's the cost of business when that business includes Hillary. Spend a few million to make sure nothing gets in the way of making a few hundred million.

Of course, there's the other point of view - that the Russians are alternately both devilish trolls subsuming American civilization and benevolent philanthropists contributing to the Clinton Family Foundation for the betterment of mankind. Sort of Dr. Jekyliev and Mr. Hydeov, as it were. Plus, I'm pretty sure one gets soup and a blanket with a point that weak.
 

fskimospy

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As I said, I don't think anyone was bribed. But Hillary as SecState has a unique history of not meeting with people until they become contributors. What I'm suggesting is that those donations are merely greasing the skids so that she neither opposed it or delayed it. It's the cost of business when that business includes Hillary. Spend a few million to make sure nothing gets in the way of making a few hundred million.

Of course, there's the other point of view - that the Russians are alternately both devilish trolls subsuming American civilization and benevolent philanthropists contributing to the Clinton Family Foundation for the betterment of mankind. Sort of Dr. Jekyliev and Mr. Hydeov, as it were. Plus, I'm pretty sure one gets soup and a blanket with a point that weak.

I love how you have created perfect circular reasoning for yourself where if Clinton acted to get this approved or disapproved she would be corrupt and if she didn’t act to approve or disapprove it’s also because she was corrupt. This means that regardless of what action she took when this deal came up in your mind it’s evidence of corruption. Lol.

It’s a total logic and thought free zone where you never have to worry about pesky contrary thoughts and facts getting in the way of what feels good to you emotionally.
 
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Jhhnn

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I love how you have created perfect circular reasoning for yourself where if Clinton acted to get this approved or disapproved she would be corrupt and if she didn’t act to approve or disapprove it’s also because she was corrupt. This means that regardless of what action she took when this deal came up in your mind it’s evidence of corruption. Lol.

It’s a total logic and thought free zone where you never have to worry about pesky contrary thoughts and facts getting in the way of what feels good to you emotionally.

Of course. Lay down a barrage from the slime cannons, then rave about the slimy opposition. Then double down when challenged.
 

werepossum

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I love how you have created perfect circular reasoning for yourself where if Clinton acted to get this approved or disapproved she would be corrupt and if she didn’t act to approve or disapprove it’s also because she was corrupt. This means that regardless of what action she took when this deal came up in your mind it’s evidence of corruption. Lol.

It’s a total logic and thought free zone where you never have to worry about pesky contrary thoughts and facts getting in the way of what feels good to you emotionally.
So in your mind, receiving millions of dollars from interested parties is just another one of those amazing coincidences that follow around Democrats?
 

fskimospy

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So in your mind, receiving millions of dollars from interested parties is just another one of those amazing coincidences that follow around Democrats?

I’m simply asking you what possible action Clinton could have taken in regards to the Uranium One deal that would lead you to any conclusion other than she was corrupt.
 
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Jhhnn

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So in your mind, receiving millions of dollars from interested parties is just another one of those amazing coincidences that follow around Democrats?

The worst part is never touching those millions yourself & using it for charity instead. Adding 10% of your own income just means you must be guilty. Because reasons. Because no good deed should go unpunished. Because everybody knows she's guilty of something horribly nefarious.
 
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fskimospy

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The worst part is never touching those millions yourself & using it for charity instead. Adding 10% of your own income just means you must be guilty. Because reasons. Because no good deed should go unpunished. Because everybody knows she's guilty of something horribly nefarious.

Apparently if your nonprofit accepts money from a donor four years before an event whatever action you take in the future regarding that person is evidence of your corruption. Wait sorry, I meant whatever action you take AND if you take no action at all.

Remember though, people pointing out how ludicrous this is are the biased ones. Lol.
 

werepossum

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I’m simply asking you what possible action Clinton could have taken in regards to the Uranium One deal that would lead you to any conclusion other than she was corrupt.
Not accepting donations from people with pending business before her, obviously. Literally everyone knows this. Which is why Clinton's Foundation "forgot" to disclose those donations until caught.
 

fskimospy

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Not accepting donations from people with pending business before her, obviously. Literally everyone knows this. Which is why Clinton's Foundation "forgot" to disclose those donations until caught.

Ooh, now the foundation’s compliance staff is in on the conspiracy as well!!

When you’ve come to a place where you’ve decided that someone is corrupt regardless of whether or not they take a single corrupt action you should take a step back and ask yourself if you’re thinking rationally. By your own standard had Clinton approved the deal, denied the deal, or done nothing, all of those actions were corrupt, meaning that the definition of corruption now no longer includes...well...corruption. Oops!

Amazingly insane. You really do live in an alternate reality.
 

fskimospy

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Has anyone explained how donations to the Clinton Foundation benefited the Clintons?

No one has been able to explain how donations to the Clinton Foundation benefitted the Clintons or how actions Clinton took benefitted the donor.

You would think these would both present insurmountable obstacles to believing that donations benefitting Clinton led her to take actions to benefit a donor but you seriously underestimate the conservative capacity for self delusion.
 

brycejones

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No one has been able to explain how donations to the Clinton Foundation benefitted the Clintons or how actions Clinton took benefitted the donor.

You would think these would both present insurmountable obstacles to believing that donations benefitting Clinton led her to take actions to benefit a donor but you seriously underestimate the conservative capacity for self delusion.

Hopefully werepossum who seems to have deep insight into this "case" will be able to provide the missing link.
 
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wirelessenabled

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Ah yes, because I made a typo, we must therefore evoke the Russian boogey man.

I am in favor of transparency and following the money of who benefited from the deal, and any quid pro quo, ethical breaches or conflicts of interest

Oh a typo! Of that magnitude? Come on, no native English speaker would confuse personal pronouns like this twice in the same sentence.
 

Puffnstuff

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I also trust fox that much as well.
Seems like Fox is America's state run tv.:p When they spout being conservative while their females sit around in those mini skirts smiling at everything said all I can do is shake my head. One must have exceptionally strong confirmation bias to see and hear them yet still believe they are conservative.:eek:
 
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