Fox News Fair & Balanced Uranium One Deal

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm not kidding 6 minutes of real coverage. I need to keep this video handy for future reference

Strangely I couldn't find it on the Fox site:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...ary-clinton-scandal-story-infuriates-viewers/

@Doc Savage Fan @werepossum above is a trusted news source what are your thoughts guys?

 

[fskimospy]

This conspiracy theory has never made any sense. It’s purely an exercise in magical thinking by the lunatic fringe.

I’ve asked a simple question many times and never gotten a real answer to it: if the accusation is money —> Clinton —> corrupt action —> deal approved, what is the corrupt action that she took to approve the deal? You would think this would be easy to answer but apparently it’s impossible.

 

[HomerJS]

but...but...but...butter emails!!

Shep just might get fired over this one

 

[fskimospy]

I’ve always wondered how he stands working there. He and Chris Wallace are decent, professional journalists surrounded by a totally immoral and unethical propaganda machine. Can’t figure out how they rationalize lending their credibility to that.

 

[Bitek]

Was this the same day that Jim J. is protesting Sessions to open a 2nd special prosecutor and gets dismissed?

It's an obvious bullshit story once you get any basic facts on it.

The fact that Rs still push it is an obvious ulterior motive.

That is.... They know this Russia stuff is serious, they are fucked, and it's going to take a miracle to push it back down.

So lie, lie, lie like the wind until a critical mass are confused or so disgusted they tune out and don't care.

 

[Commodus]

I’ve always wondered how he stands working there. He and Chris Wallace are decent, professional journalists surrounded by a totally immoral and unethical propaganda machine. Can’t figure out how they rationalize lending their credibility to that.

He's there so that Fox News can falsely claim it's "fair and balanced." See, we have a left-wing figure! Even though we clearly try to marginalize him, and we're so much of a Republican propaganda machine that we tell Trump about our coverage schedule in advance.

As for why he stays on? Money, of course, but I figure he also sees himself as a light in the darkness. He's hoping that someone who just spent a while watching the usual Fox News lies will stay on a little longer and see him deliver some facts and reason.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Now don't forget, Fox dropped the fair and balanced slogan in June this year so... Shep's days may be numbered.

 

[fskimospy]

He's there so that Fox News can falsely claim it's "fair and balanced." See, we have a left-wing figure! Even though we clearly try to marginalize him, and we're so much of a Republican propaganda machine that we tell Trump about our coverage schedule in advance.

As for why he stays on? Money, of course, but I figure he also sees himself as a light in the darkness. He's hoping that someone who just spent a while watching the usual Fox News lies will stay on a little longer and see him deliver some facts and reason.

I’ve never gotten the impression that Shepard Smith is particularly liberal. Maybe because Fox is skewed so far to the ultra right neutrality appears liberal but that’s more a statement on Fox’s unprofessional news reporting otherwise.

 

[Linux23]

Yeah, I saw that reporting and thought that I had a mini stroke or something.

 

[Commodus]

I’ve never gotten the impression that Shepard Smith is particularly liberal. Maybe because Fox is skewed so far to the ultra right neutrality appears liberal but that’s more a statement on Fox’s unprofessional news reporting otherwise.

True, he looks like Noam Chomsky compared to the rest of the channel because he believes in these radical concepts called "facts."

 

[Starbuck1975]

This conspiracy theory has never made any sense. It’s purely an exercise in magical thinking by the lunatic fringe.

I’ve asked a simple question many times and never gotten a real answer to it: if the accusation is money —> Clinton —> corrupt action —> deal approved, what is the corrupt action that she took to approve the deal? You would think this would be easy to answer but apparently it’s impossible.

It's because you don't like the simple answer. If you are a Cabinet member with signator authority over a US government approved trade deal, you cannot accept a donation into your private family foundation. Perhaps not criminal, but politically exploitable. Clinton surrogates complain about the endless witch hunts. Maybe the Clintons should stop choosing to wear witch costumes.

Furthermore, the Mueller investigation is going well beyond the confines of election tampering to explore the economic ties of Trump associates and Trump himself. This investigation is already ensnaring some Clinton ties as well. It's a small world after all.

 

[fskimospy]

It's because you don't like the simple answer. If you are a Cabinet member with signator authority over a US government approved trade deal, you cannot accept a donation into your private family foundation. Perhaps not criminal, but politically exploitable. Clinton surrogates complain about the endless witch hunts. Maybe the Clintons should stop choosing to wear witch costumes.

Furthermore, the Mueller investigation is going well beyond the confines of election tampering to explore the economic ties of Trump associates and Trump himself. This investigation is already ensnaring some Clinton ties as well. It's a small world after all.

I can't help but notice you didn't give the 'simple answer' either. This is of course because there is no logical answer.

What corrupt action are you alleging she took in order to get this deal approved that was the result of donations to her, her family, or her foundation?

 

[pauldun170]

It's because you don't like the simple answer. If you are a Cabinet member with signator authority over a US government approved trade deal, you cannot accept a donation into your private family foundation. Perhaps not criminal, but politically exploitable. Clinton surrogates complain about the endless witch hunts. Maybe the Clintons should stop choosing to wear witch costumes.

Furthermore, the Mueller investigation is going well beyond the confines of election tampering to explore the economic ties of Trump associates and Trump himself. This investigation is already ensnaring some Clinton ties as well. It's a small world after all.

What you are implying is that you do not know the difference between a private family foundation and a public charity.

These articles can start you on a path of not sounding like an ignorant mislead fool.
https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/...undation-a-look-at-bill-and-hillarys-per.html
https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Opinion-How-to-Understand-the/230745
http://www.jsmco.com/blog/what is a private family foundation, and why set it up?.htm
https://cullinanelaw.com/difference-between-public-charity-and-private-foundation/

 

[HomerJS]

It's because you don't like the simple answer. If you are a Cabinet member with signator authority over a US government approved trade deal, you cannot accept a donation into your private family foundation. Perhaps not criminal, but politically exploitable. Clinton surrogates complain about the endless witch hunts. Maybe the Clintons should stop choosing to wear witch costumes.

Furthermore, the Mueller investigation is going well beyond the confines of election tampering to explore the economic ties of Trump associates and Trump himself. This investigation is already ensnaring some Clinton ties as well. It's a small world after all.

If Clinton was the sole signator authority I would agree with you.

 

[Jaskalas]

m not kidding 6 minutes of real coverage. I need to keep this video handy for future reference

Oh my god. That was beautiful, and confirmed many things I have heard but had no source to backup.

 

[K1052]

I’ve always wondered how he stands working there. He and Chris Wallace are decent, professional journalists surrounded by a totally immoral and unethical propaganda machine. Can’t figure out how they rationalize lending their credibility to that.

I do love it when stooges go on TV to get interviewed by Chris Wallace and they are surprised he asks actual questions, follows up, and fact checks their claims in real time.

 

[Commodus]

The hilarious bit about all the Uranium One non-conspiracy crap is that the desperation surrounding it is becoming increasingly obvious. Anything to distract from the actual Russian collusion investigation covering the Trump campaign. Anything to keep the Republican base loyal for a few minutes longer. The GOP needs to pretend Clinton is the problem to prevent you from examining their own failings.

 

[soundforbjt]

The hilarious bit about all the Uranium One non-conspiracy crap is that the desperation surrounding it is becoming increasingly obvious. Anything to distract from the actual Russian collusion investigation covering the Trump campaign. Anything to keep the Republican base loyal for a few minutes longer. The GOP needs to pretend Clinton is the problem to prevent you from realizing that they are the problem.

And Clinton bashing is always a winner for them, even some Dems hate Clinton.

 

[Jhhnn]

I can't help but notice you didn't give the 'simple answer' either. This is of course because there is no logical answer.

What corrupt action are you alleging she took in order to get this deal approved that was the result of donations to her, her family, or her foundation?

He edged into conspiracy theory territory from the start. Clinton didn't have signator status, nor did any of the other agencies. The CF is a public charity. Any of us can contribute. The claim that the Mueller investigation is ensnaring some Clinton ties is vague innuendo.

At best, he wants to believe. At worst, he just wants other people to believe.

 

[Jhhnn]

And Clinton bashing is always a winner for them, even some Dems hate Clinton.

"Hillary" is a magic word that scrambles their brains.

 

[zinfamous]

Now don't forget, Fox dropped the fair and balanced slogan in June this year so... Shep's days may be numbered.

Not unless he's the only one left standing that isn't a rapist/sexual predator and/or is losing advertising revenue hand-over-fist. Hell, this issue of Fox's fine purveyance of the nation's fake news may just sort itself out due to the ignorant arrogance of the "talent" that it hires and the protected pigs that control them (Ailes, et al) bringing the whole thing down.

 

[pauldun170]

I'm not kidding 6 minutes of real coverage. I need to keep this video handy for future reference

Strangely I couldn't find it on the Fox site:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...ary-clinton-scandal-story-infuriates-viewers/

@Doc Savage Fan @werepossum above is a trusted news source what are your thoughts guys?

If Foxnews is playing its cards correctly, they are allowing people like Shep to do segments like this to add legitimacy to their organization.
If Fox did not include segments like that then they face increased reputational risk.
The "fallacy flavored editorial" format brings in the masses but you can't call yourself a news organization if that's your core product.

 

[fskimospy]

He edged into conspiracy theory territory from the start. Clinton didn't have signator status, nor did any of the other agencies. The CF is a public charity. Any of us can contribute. The claim that the Mueller investigation is ensnaring some Clinton ties is vague innuendo.

At best, he wants to believe. At worst, he just wants other people to believe.

It really is amazing.

‘Clinton is corrupt!’

‘Okay, what corrupt thing did she do?’

*crickets*

 

[Starbuck1975]

If Clinton was the sole signator authority I would agree with you.

Clinton was the sole signator for which there was a financial component, and he also had a fairly significant role as Secretary of State.

 

[pauldun170]

It really is amazing.

‘Clinton is corrupt!’

‘Okay, what corrupt thing did she do?’

*crickets*

Clinton is corrupt because that's a fact and its a fact because people don't say other people are corrupt unless those other people are corrupt because where this is smoke there is fire and where there is fire there are a corruption of flammable things and where a cigar is flammable there fore Bill Clinton and thus support the troops because freedom and win the war on terrorist illegals