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Orsorum said:
Massively talented? You mean the low rent amateur hack jobs with a few $1k of investment to purchase? Didn't vote for Trump, but it does give me some schadenfreude that the Democrats' chosen one was so monstrously uninspiring and entitled that she lost to the Other Guys' version of psyops.
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That's one kind of denial. Beyond what our own intelligence agencies & Congress tell us the revelations from Twitter, Facebook, Google & Youtube confirm that a huge Russian propaganda effort took place. That's indisputable.

They set out to mess with our minds in a brilliant & utterly audacious way, as did Trump himself. It's one of the greatest victories for the art of deception in History. Witness the persistence of the effects. America got chumped, caught with her guard down & her panties in a knot.
 
Jhhnn said:
That's one kind of denial. Beyond what our own intelligence agencies & Congress tell us the revelations from Twitter, Facebook, Google & Youtube confirm that a huge Russian propaganda effort took place. That's indisputable.

They set out to mess with our minds in a brilliant & utterly audacious way, as did Trump himself. It's one of the greatest victories for the art of deception in History. Witness the persistence of the effects. America got chumped, caught with her guard down & her panties in a knot.
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Hillary lost. No matter how much she rigged her own party's processes in her favor, how much she played her gender and somehow simultaneously that of a victim, she lost. That's how pathetic a candidate she really was. Must hurt to have to feel that.
 
It took the GOP two decades or so to try and fail to indict Hillary. You could give those idiots another two decades to investigate Hillary, and they still wouldn't be able to pin anything significant on her.

Methinks that it is the Trump Train and the GOP that can't seem to get over the fact that Hillary lost. Kinda funny how having complete control of the federal government isn't as advantageous as they thought it would be.
 
Triloby said:
It took the GOP two decades or so to try and fail to indict Hillary. You could give those idiots another two decades to investigate Hillary, and they still wouldn't be able to pin anything significant on her.

Methinks that it is the Trump Train and the GOP that can't seem to get over the fact that Hillary lost. Kinda funny how having complete control of the federal government isn't as advantageous as they thought it would be.
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I expected the GOP to screw it up. But I didn't expect Hillary's post-loss pity party. Guess that's what happens when some irrelevant hangers-on can't fade from public life with dignity.

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Orsorum said:
Hillary lost. No matter how much she rigged her own party's processes in her favor, how much she played her gender and somehow simultaneously that of a victim, she lost. That's how pathetic a candidate she really was. Must hurt to have to feel that.
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For all practical intent and purposes, the Dems have gotten over it. It's the Repubs that refuse to get over her loss. They keep dragging her name up from the depths of the past in order to have a tasty distractive piñata to beat up on. That's how pathetic the Repub Party is at the moment in that they have to use bush league ploys of this nature to distract away from their failures.

The GOP has nothing to show us as far any kind of substantive legislation being passed other than plugging all the judiciary holes with far right candidates that they refused to fill while Obama was in charge.

I suggest you reserve your ire for the folks who are in complete control of the government at the moment and not Hillary the loser of whom is presently getting attention exclusively from the party that has to find a former opponent to pick on in order to relive those heady days of attacking at will without consequence.

Get over it like the rest of Hillary's supporters have. It might make you better concentrate on the folks who really need your critical eyes to be laid on. 😉
 
tweaker2 said:
For all practical intent and purposes, the Dems have gotten over it. It's the Repubs that refuse to get over her loss. They keep dragging her name up from the depths of the past in order to have a tasty distractive piñata to beat up on. That's how pathetic the Repub Party is at the moment in that they have to use bush league ploys of this nature to distract away from their failures.

The GOP has nothing to show us as far any kind of substantive legislation being passed other than plugging all the judiciary holes with far right candidates that they refused to fill while Obama was in charge.

I suggest you reserve your ire for the folks who are in complete control of the government at the moment and not Hillary the loser of whom is presently getting attention exclusively from the party that has to find a former opponent to pick on in order to relive those heady days of attacking at will without consequence.

Get over it like the rest of Hillary's supporters have. It might make you better concentrate on the folks who really need your critical eyes to be laid on. 😉
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See most recent post.

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Orsorum said:
Hillary lost. No matter how much she rigged her own party's processes in her favor, how much she played her gender and somehow simultaneously that of a victim, she lost. That's how pathetic a candidate she really was. Must hurt to have to feel that.
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Quote & deflect into Hillary hate? Really? You're spouting the same lines as an army of Russian trolls, bots & faux advertisers who were the scourge of social media & the internet leading up to the election. Why do you stand shoulder to shoulder with them? Or is it simply impossible to see that you are?
 
Orsorum said:
I expected the GOP to screw it up. But I didn't expect Hillary's post-loss pity party. Guess that's what happens when some irrelevant hangers-on can't fade from public life with dignity.

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Yeah I have to say the only people you see bringing Hillary Clinton up are Republicans. It’s like they don’t know what to do without the Clintons as an enemy.
 
fskimospy said:
Yeah I have to say the only people you see bringing Hillary Clinton up are Republicans. It’s like they don’t know what to do without the Clintons as an enemy.
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Except, you know, Hillary "writing" a pity party book then going on a speaking tour. But it's ok, keep blaming the Russian Facebook bogeyman as if they would have swayed a single voter.

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fskimospy said:
Yeah I have to say the only people you see bringing Hillary Clinton up are Republicans. It’s like they don’t know what to do without the Clintons as an enemy.
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Invoking Hillary hate makes the believers go a little bit crazy which is just how their leadership likes it.
 
Orsorum said:
Except, you know, Hillary "writing" a pity party book then going on a speaking tour. But it's ok, keep blaming the Russian Facebook bogeyman as if they would have swayed a single voter.

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Do you acknowledge that the Russians put in a massive effort, or not? If they did, why? Do you think they really want to MAGA?
 
Jhhnn said:
Do you acknowledge that the Russians put in a massive effort, or not? If they did, why? Do you think they really want to MAGA?
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From what I have read (and it seems difficult to me to tell so far what is fact versus tabloid sensationalism), it was a relatively modest effort in a troll farm, at most, nothing of the sophistication I'd expect from one of our erstwhile geopolitical foes. So, if they were spamming, they're doing it on the order of Nigerian princes. I can't speak to their motivations - but I will be interested to see what hard truths emerge.

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Orsorum said:
From what I have read (and it seems difficult to me to tell so far what is fact versus tabloid sensationalism), it was a relatively modest effort in a troll farm, at most, nothing of the sophistication I'd expect from one of our erstwhile geopolitical foes. So, if they were spamming, they're doing it on the order of Nigerian princes. I can't speak to their motivations - but I will be interested to see what hard truths emerge.

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That's willful blindness-

WASHINGTON — Russian agents intending to sow discord among American citizens disseminated inflammatory posts that reached 126 million users on Facebook, published more than 131,000 messages on Twitter and uploaded over 1,000 videos to Google’s YouTube service, according to copies of prepared remarks from the companies that were obtained by The New York Times.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/technology/facebook-google-russia.html

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...election-including-many-controlled-by-russia/

I could cover the page with similar links & it's really just the tip of the iceberg. We could argue forever about the effectiveness of those efforts. The fact is that they made an enormous effort to influence American minds. They obviously did so not with MAGA on their minds at all. Quite the contrary. Denying that it happened is what they want us to do.
 
Jhhnn said:
That's willful blindness-



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/technology/facebook-google-russia.html

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...election-including-many-controlled-by-russia/

I could cover the page with similar links & it's really just the tip of the iceberg. We could argue forever about the effectiveness of those efforts. The fact is that they made an enormous effort to influence American minds. They obviously did so not with MAGA on their minds at all. Quite the contrary. Denying that it happened is what they want us to do.
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Appreciate the cites. Sincerely do. Will do some reading and follow up.

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Fanatical Meat said:
Maybe so, we'll see
$2.35 million is quite a bit different than $146 million
Also NO URANIUM LEFT THE COUNTRY
Will you be man enough to admit you were wrong?
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What do you make of this NYtimes piece? I've heard lots of people repeating the 'no uranium left the country' talking point, but no refutation of the bolded below. If it's true, will people be man enough to admit they were wrong? (I have no dog in this race).
Thanks
Mr. Christensen, 65, noted that despite assurances by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that uranium could not leave the country without Uranium One or ARMZ obtaining an export license — which they do not have — yellowcake from his property was routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.

Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license. Instead, the transport company doing the shipping, RSB Logistic Services, has the license. A commission spokesman said that “to the best of our knowledge” most of the uranium sent to Canada for processing was returned for use in the United States. A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent had gone to Western Europe and Japan. At the moment, with the uranium market in a downturn, nothing is being shipped from the Wyoming mines.
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Holy crap this is a non starter, goddamn the right is desperate for a case to go vs. all the degenerate shit coming out of the right alt-right these dayss, from collusion with a foreign power to pedophelia back to money laundering and ALL the pussy grabbing... and the only response we get is bbbbbut the unanium, bbuttermails. Fck the uranium, someone might have doctered a book somewhere and it wasnt Hillary. If anything anything at all this could look like a psyops operation to make it look like some level of corruption.. A failed op by anyones standard with an IQ over 90. FORGET HILLARY goddamnit your orange dofus is picking a newclear war with NK cause twitter... fcking nutbags get your priorities straight. If your orange fatbag starts shit he cant finish there will be no forgiveness.
 
Orsorum said:
Except, you know, Hillary "writing" a pity party book then going on a speaking tour. But it's ok, keep blaming the Russian Facebook bogeyman as if they would have swayed a single voter.

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Wait, now she’s not allowed to write books or give speeches? That seems like a pretty ridiculous standard. She’s not a major component of the national conversation right now and I would bet a lot of money if you googled her name you would find it coming out of the mouths of Republicans far more often than from Democrats.

As for the Russians swaying a single voter I would ask myself if I think the combination of the DNC hacks and other coordinated anti-Clinton efforts could have caused 0.25% of voters to switch from Clinton to Trump or 0.5% of Clinton voters to not vote. If the answer is yes their influence could have been decisive.
 
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