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Fox News covering up for Rudy Guliani

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Funny how Pabsters tune changes when the charges are against Repubs, but Pabster will repeat any fanciful unsubstantiated rumor against Hillary.
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I make it clear it is an allegation, as OP should here. If you can prove where I've said otherwise, let's see it.

There's a world of difference between an allegation of impropriety and a conviction thereof.
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Your post from the thread about the Chinese huckster's contributions to Hillary:

"No surprise. This mirrors a similar scandal during Bill's tenure.
I don't think anyone is shocked to hear about a Clinton and a scandal."

Doesn't sound like you are skeptical of the allegations there Pabst. No argument from you that there's no evidence Hillary knew about the contribution. She's as good as guilty because in the past there were scandals involving a presidency. Shocker.

Guilty before proven innocent, when you disagree with the accused?

If it makes you feel better, when I hear about a Republican getting arrested for something gay in a men's restroom, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'll admit that.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Funny how Pabsters tune changes when the charges are against Repubs, but Pabster will repeat any fanciful unsubstantiated rumor against Hillary.
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I make it clear it is an allegation, as OP should here. If you can prove where I've said otherwise, let's see it.

There's a world of difference between an allegation of impropriety and a conviction thereof.
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Your post from the thread about the Chinese huckster's contributions to Hillary:

"No surprise. This mirrors a similar scandal during Bill's tenure.
I don't think anyone is shocked to hear about a Clinton and a scandal."

Doesn't sound like you are skeptical of the allegations there Pabst. No argument from you that there's no evidence Hillary knew about the contribution. She's as good as guilty because in the past there were scandals involving a presidency. Shocker.

Guilty before proven innocent, when you disagree with the accused?

If it makes you feel better, when I hear about a Republican getting arrested for something gay in a men's restroom, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'll admit that.
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pwned.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Your post from the thread about the Chinese huckster's contributions to Hillary:

"No surprise. This mirrors a similar scandal during Bill's tenure.
I don't think anyone is shocked to hear about a Clinton and a scandal."

Doesn't sound like you are skeptical of the allegations there Pabst. No argument from you that there's no evidence Hillary knew about the contribution. She's as good as guilty because in the past there were scandals involving a presidency. Shocker.

Guilty before proven innocent, when you disagree with the accused?

If it makes you feel better, when I hear about a Republican getting arrested for something gay in a men's restroom, I don't give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'll admit that.
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Can you show me where I declared she was guilty and had been convicted of a crime? I'll bet you can't. And you know why.

I may not be skeptical of the allegations but I make it clear they are just allegations. That thread you took a quote out of is full of allegations, and I think it is readily apparent to anyone perusing it.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Why don't you just quit crying like one then?
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How about you quit trolling? You're getting to be as disgusting as Dave. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
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Oh, poor little boy, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen whiner.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Oh, poor little boy, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen whiner.
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I've taken more heat than your pathetic, trolling ass could ever hope to give off. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Oh, poor little boy, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen whiner.
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I've taken more heat than your pathetic, trolling ass could ever hope to give off. :laugh:
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<puts on 13 yr old hat>
Wait, you've taken heat off a trolls ass? I'm confused.
</hat>
 
Originally posted by: Fern
She seems quite the attention whore.

How HER having an affair with Kerik is some kinda problem for Rudy I just don't see. I suppose she sees the world as Judith-centric. Rudy has his own issues with women.

One would think Keriks alleged criminal acts are a problem for Rudy, but who kerik was sleeping with?

Jebus, it ain't even like she's some underage male like the other Repub sex scandels.

Finally, although article gives no date, I understand what she claims took place long before Rudy was even a candidate, or the primaries had started etc. Looks like a desperate attempt on her behalf to get back in the news by trying to claim this is somehow connected to the current Pres elections.

Otherwise, who'd give a fvck?

Kerik's other problems would be the focus.

Fern
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It is emphatically tied to the elections.

<Impersonating Denzell in Philadelphia>

Let me break it down for you like you are a fifth grader:

1. Rudy allegedly used improper influence to bolster position of FNC and his long time friend Murdoch
2. Murdock allegedly used improper influence to attempt to bolster position of his long time friend Guiliani
3. FNC has Rudee (sic) on religiously via stories and/or guest appearances in positive situations and ignores and/or glancingly touches on anything negative
4. FNC is allegedly a mouthpiece for the RNC which has Rudee running for POTUS under their party ticket
5. FNC viewers have been shown to be the most ill-informed and influenced voter block in the country
6. FNC is attempting to influence the presidential elections by propagandizing the campaign of Rudee for free (which is also in violation of campaign finance laws)

</Impersonating Denzell in Philadelphia>

It's like 6 degrees of corruption when talking Repub politics.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
She seems quite the attention whore.

How HER having an affair with Kerik is some kinda problem for Rudy I just don't see. I suppose she sees the world as Judith-centric. Rudy has his own issues with women.

One would think Keriks alleged criminal acts are a problem for Rudy, but who kerik was sleeping with?

Jebus, it ain't even like she's some underage male like the other Repub sex scandels.

Finally, although article gives no date, I understand what she claims took place long before Rudy was even a candidate, or the primaries had started etc. Looks like a desperate attempt on her behalf to get back in the news by trying to claim this is somehow connected to the current Pres elections.

Otherwise, who'd give a fvck?

Kerik's other problems would be the focus.

Fern
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It's not who Kerik was sleeping with, but where he was sleeping with her. In an apartment rented for 9/11 rescue workers. He was doing some hard digging there, that's for sure 😉
Just because you don't see this as a problem for Rudy, does not mean it's not a problem for him.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
It's not who Kerik was sleeping with, but where he was sleeping with her. In an apartment rented for 9/11 rescue workers. He was doing some hard digging there, that's for sure 😉
Just because you don't see this as a problem for Rudy, does not mean it's not a problem for him.
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Seems we haven't heard much about Kerik since the day he was indicted. Seems like a dead story. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Fern
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Fern
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It is emphatically tied to the elections.

<Impersonating Denzell in Philadelphia>

Let me break it down for you like you are a fifth grader:

1. Rudy allegedly used improper influence to bolster position of FNC and his long time friend Murdoch
2. Murdock allegedly used improper influence to attempt to bolster position of his long time friend Guiliani
3. FNC has Rudee (sic) on religiously via stories and/or guest appearances in positive situations and ignores and/or glancingly touches on anything negative
4. FNC is allegedly a mouthpiece for the RNC which has Rudee running for POTUS under their party ticket
5. FNC viewers have been shown to be the most ill-informed and influenced voter block in the country
6. FNC is attempting to influence the presidential elections by propagandizing the campaign of Rudee for free (which is also in violation of campaign finance laws)

</Impersonating Denzell in Philadelphia>

It's like 6 degrees of corruption when talking Repub politics.
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Your point would be better made if Rudy were the Repub nominee. But he's not and there are about 6 other Repubs running.

Do you know date this stuff allegded by her occurred?

I was under the impression that it was well before the primaries started. If so, I stand by my statement that it's a (weak) effort by her to tie this stuff to the elections in an effort to get attention for a story that would otherwise be overlooked.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Fern
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Fern
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It's not who Kerik was sleeping with, but where he was sleeping with her. In an apartment rented for 9/11 rescue workers. He was doing some hard digging there, that's for sure 😉
Just because you don't see this as a problem for Rudy, does not mean it's not a problem for him.
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Geez, I think Rudy has so many other REAL problems that this is the wrong story to pursue for anybody trying to score points against Rudy.

They've got his 911 failures, both those leading up to it and those after.

There's his marriage to his cousin, and his other women problems.

His promoting Kerik an Kerik;s mob ties and alleged crimes.

Who Kerik was screwing, and where, seems like a distraction from other more meaningful problems. It just doesn't spin well, at least so far. If you're talking about Kerik and Judith just seems hard to get Rudy's name in there as well unless it was a three-some.

IMO, attack politics just won't work with 6 degress of seperation. jebus, most politions seem to stay above scandels by having just 1 degree of seperation.

BTW: To the poster above Fox news ignoring this story - it's been covered by Fox, they did it the night before this thread was started.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Oh, poor little boy, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen whiner.
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I've taken more heat than your pathetic, trolling ass could ever hope to give off. :laugh:
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Smelling your own farts doesn't constituTOOT heat. :laugh: :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Fern
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Fern
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It's not who Kerik was sleeping with, but where he was sleeping with her. In an apartment rented for 9/11 rescue workers. He was doing some hard digging there, that's for sure 😉
Just because you don't see this as a problem for Rudy, does not mean it's not a problem for him.
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Geez, I think Rudy has so many other REAL problems that this is the wrong story to pursue for anybody trying to score points against Rudy.

They've got his 911 failures, both those leading up to it and those after.

There's his marriage to his cousin, and his other women problems.

His promoting Kerik an Kerik;s mob ties and alleged crimes.

Who Kerik was screwing, and where, seems like a distraction from other more meaningful problems. It just doesn't spin well, at least so far. If you're talking about Kerik and Judith just seems hard to get Rudy's name in there as well unless it was a three-some.

IMO, attack politics just won't work with 6 degress of seperation. jebus, most politions seem to stay above scandels by having just 1 degree of seperation.

BTW: To the poster above Fox news ignoring this story - it's been covered by Fox, they did it the night before this thread was started.

Fern
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This Regan thing will keep Kerik in the news between his indictment and the start of the trial 😀 So it's a good bridge story 😀
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Fern
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Fern
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It's not who Kerik was sleeping with, but where he was sleeping with her. In an apartment rented for 9/11 rescue workers. He was doing some hard digging there, that's for sure 😉
Just because you don't see this as a problem for Rudy, does not mean it's not a problem for him.
Click to expand...

Geez, I think Rudy has so many other REAL problems that this is the wrong story to pursue for anybody trying to score points against Rudy.

They've got his 911 failures, both those leading up to it and those after.

There's his marriage to his cousin, and his other women problems.

His promoting Kerik an Kerik;s mob ties and alleged crimes.

Who Kerik was screwing, and where, seems like a distraction from other more meaningful problems. It just doesn't spin well, at least so far. If you're talking about Kerik and Judith just seems hard to get Rudy's name in there as well unless it was a three-some.

IMO, attack politics just won't work with 6 degress of seperation. jebus, most politions seem to stay above scandels by having just 1 degree of seperation.

BTW: To the poster above Fox news ignoring this story - it's been covered by Fox, they did it the night before this thread was started.

Fern
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Which show did the story? Just checked the archives on the Fox News website for Monday 11/12. No mention of it.

BTW - I might start a new thread called Fox New headlines just as good as lies. I went to the gym last Thurs or Fri and during Neil Cavuto's show a headline read "Oil prices up 36% since Nancy Pelosi took offfice". I wanted to throw my sneaker through the TV! Anyone with half a brain cell knows the price of oil had nothing to do with the new SOTH. Those clowns will keep trying to blame all the worlds ills on democrats. No wonder The Simpsons make fun of them with their own satrical headlines. Just saw one today when marge opened a chain of health clubs and a newspaper head line read. "The Rupert Murdock owned Wall Street Journal Marge Simpson sucessful because of Republican tax cuts"

Can't wait until more people get hip to the Fox News "just as good as lies".

 
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