Forum Suggestion - Posts

[SpyderX]

It would be nice if there was a section where I could see all the post/threads that I participated in. It would be a lot easier for me to find my thread in the future other then doing a search with my username.

 

[Azraele]

Check the "Today" section.

 

[Sengir]

Another suggestion.. Switch to vBulletin

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Sengir
Another suggestion.. Switch to vBulletin

Of course that won't be happening. Two reasons: Zuni is a friend of Anand (I think), and Fusetalk (Zuni's product) also just happens to handle high amounts of traffic pretty well (the slowness that non-subscribers have is not on the servers, but rather a limitation of the outgoing bandwidth).

Edit for clarification: Apparently Coldfusion is faster or more optimized for some things than PHP is. MySQL is very fast at some tasks, but at others its performance is mediocre compared to other database solutions. Anyway, I'm sure the webmaster(s) here know what they're doing, and they're using Fusetalk and some other database server besides MySQL for a reason.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Sengir
Another suggestion.. Switch to vBulletin

What a dumb idea. You really want vBulletin, then go elsewhere. Why would AnandTech want to slow down overall performance?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: jliechty
Apparently Coldfusion is faster or more optimized for some things than PHP is. MySQL is very fast at some tasks, but at others its performance is mediocre compared to other database solutions.

Coldfusion is whack, if it's faster than php for these forums i'd be shocked. search google for php vs coldfusion vs asp vs jsp etc etc

they use mssql iirc, i think the combination of coldfusion+mssql is a byproduct of a "brand name" attitude, although thats an assumption and an uninformed one at that...

the majority of the speed difference would be in the database, and any databasee that is finely tuned and running on (a) fast machine(s) will perform well, even for a forum this large.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Sengir
Another suggestion.. Switch to vBulletin

What a dumb idea. You really want vBulletin, then go elsewhere. Why would AnandTech want to slow down overall performance?

i'd assume he's just used to vbulletin and prefers it.

 

[Jason Clark]

We're not switching to another forum applicaiton, FuseTalk handles the load here very well, and it makes no sense to switch. It does what most any forum user requires, there are quite a few changes coming to FuseTalk 4, I think you guys will like them.


Program in the language that fits the job, thats the bottom line. ColdFusion fits this job just fine.

 

[Sengir]

BingBongWongFooey was right.. I have used vBulletin alot & own/administrate a forum. I've been in big forums before and haven't had any slowdowns on them.

I really didn't think you would.. But it was a suggestion

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Zuni
Program in the language that fits the job, thats the bottom line. ColdFusion fits this job just fine.

Zuni, if you don't mind answering this, what do you feel are the advantages of ColdFusion in the area of web forums and content management systems? I'm just starting to learn PHP, and it seems easy enough, but if performance were not a concern, what reasons would someone choose ColdFusion to write a web app for instead of PHP (basically I'm wondering if I should learn CF, too - and don't worry, I'm not starting any businesses or planning to make any products that would compete with yours )?

 

[Jason Clark]

Sengir, what are some examples of forums with the traffic that AnandTech forums have? 2500-4000 simultaneous users, 6 million messages. I'd like to see them .

Zuni, if you don't mind answering this, what do you feel are the advantages of ColdFusion in the area of web forums and content management systems? I'm just starting to learn PHP, and it seems easy enough, but if performance were not a concern, what reasons would someone choose ColdFusion to write a web app for instead of PHP (basically I'm wondering if I should learn CF, too - and don't worry, I'm not starting any businesses or planning to make any products that would compete with yours )?

Thats a great question, the biggest thing ColdFusion has going for it is RAD (Rapid Application Development). There really isn't another main stream web based language that comes close, including PHP. Performance between PHP and ColdFusion are probably about the same these days. ColdFusion MX brings with it some new enhancements that PHP doesn't have, webservices, and a standards based platform. You can write webservices, consume webservices very very quickly and that is where web development is right now. If I were you I'd be learning JAVA/JSP, and or one of the CLR's for .NET, probably C# or J#. ColdFusion is really a language tagset that is deployed on top of a J2EE platform. Currently ColdFusion MX deploys on JRUN, Websphere, Sun ONE, BEA Weblogic.

Does that help?

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Zuni
Thats a great question, the biggest thing ColdFusion has going for it is RAD (Rapid Application Development). There really isn't another main stream web based language that comes close, including PHP. Performance between PHP and ColdFusion are probably about the same these days. ColdFusion MX brings with it some new enhancements that PHP doesn't have, webservices, and a standards based platform. You can write webservices, consume webservices very very quickly and that is where web development is right now. If I were you I'd be learning JAVA/JSP, and or one of the CLR's for .NET, probably C# or J#. ColdFusion is really a language tagset that is deployed on top of a J2EE platform. Currently ColdFusion MX deploys on JRUN, Websphere, Sun ONE, BEA Weblogic.

Does that help?

Yea, that helps immensely. Thanks for the informative reply!

 

[Sengir]

Well, after you saying that I geuss I was wrong.. I've seen some big forums.. but these are the biggest by what you describe. From what I understand you can use a different backend database for vBulletin since it's scalable... I like Anandtech's website.. but IMO their forums are the hardest to view & navigate

 

[Jason Clark]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Sengir
Well, after you saying that I geuss I was wrong.. I've seen some big forums.. but these are the biggest by what you describe. From what I understand you can use a different backend database for vBulletin since it's scalable... I like Anandtech's website.. but IMO their forums are the hardest to view & navigate

Hmm, I've not (to my knowledge) had much experience with Vbulletin forums, but Fusetalk displays much better (and much more easily navigable) forums than phpBB. Whatever Zuni uses for the CMS for the AnandTech website is cool, too; sure beats phpNuke (which gives all sites that use it that Yet-Another-Open-Source-News-Portal look). I've not had much experience with other CMSes (WebGUI, etc.), so I can't make valid comparisons in that regard.

 

[Sengir]

Yea I dislike phpBB as well..

 

[elmore]

Man there you go bashing on phpBB, which is actually not a bad forum. It might not be as scalable as the ones that run here but they have there place, and I don't think that they're that hard to navigate through either. Personally I can't afford the licensing for a high end product like fusetalk or for that matter even vbulletin, however, phpBB is free and free seems to be right up my alley, since that's what I can afford, and that's the world that I like to support. The OpenSource world.

BTW one of the biggest vbulletin I'm aware of is bsdforums.org I sure that there might be bigger.
and for phpBB phpBB's own support forum is the biggest I've seen.

Both of those are quite large but nothing in comparsion to this. This is by far one of the biggest forums I've ever seen.

The suggestions that I have are:

1. Lack of sub forums. Particularly in the Operating System Forum. A sub-forum for each O.S. would be nice.

2. When I search only one default forum is selected. I'd really like to see that changed to all forums or at least more applicable ones. It would be super cool if you could set that up in your user profile, so each person could have their own default search forums already selected.

Cheers

BTW I really do like the site. I just joined today.

 

[flurffmeister]

There are MUCH bigger vBulletin forums than bsdforums. Hell, mine is quite small and still bigger than it.

Mine: Off Topic Central

Here are some pretty big vBulletin-based sites:

General Mayhem
HardForums
Off-Topic.net <-- They've had about 8 million posts

 

[Sengir]

Well.. After I realized I had not seen bigger forums than Anandtech's.. I posted the link to this thread and asked the members of vBulletin's forums if they had seen bigger..

Here is the thread I had made.

Seems they are discussing the possibilities I think it would be a great learning experience to see if vbulletin's software could handle it..

Maybe do it and create an article on it on the website

hehe Just a thought..

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Sengir
Well.. After I realized I had not seen bigger forums than Anandtech's.. I posted the link to this thread and asked the members of vBulletin's forums if they had seen bigger..

Here is the thread I had made.

Seems they are discussing the possibilities I think it would be a great learning experience to see if vbulletin's software could handle it..

Maybe do it and create an article on it on the website

hehe Just a thought..

It won't be happening. One other reason is that Zuni (Anand's webmaster) uses these forums to "beta" test new features of Fusetalk (well, I think he's run betas here before; haven't you, Zuni?).

 

[joejohn]

Originally posted by: Zuni
Sengir, what are some examples of forums with the traffic that AnandTech forums have? 2500-4000 simultaneous users, 6 million messages. I'd like to see them .

Zuni, if you don't mind answering this, what do you feel are the advantages of ColdFusion in the area of web forums and content management systems? I'm just starting to learn PHP, and it seems easy enough, but if performance were not a concern, what reasons would someone choose ColdFusion to write a web app for instead of PHP (basically I'm wondering if I should learn CF, too - and don't worry, I'm not starting any businesses or planning to make any products that would compete with yours )?

Thats a great question, the biggest thing ColdFusion has going for it is RAD (Rapid Application Development). There really isn't another main stream web based language that comes close, including PHP. Performance between PHP and ColdFusion are probably about the same these days. ColdFusion MX brings with it some new enhancements that PHP doesn't have, webservices, and a standards based platform. You can write webservices, consume webservices very very quickly and that is where web development is right now. If I were you I'd be learning JAVA/JSP, and or one of the CLR's for .NET, probably C# or J#. ColdFusion is really a language tagset that is deployed on top of a J2EE platform. Currently ColdFusion MX deploys on JRUN, Websphere, Sun ONE, BEA Weblogic.

Does that help?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: joejohn

Originally posted by: Zuni
Sengir, what are some examples of forums with the traffic that AnandTech forums have? 2500-4000 simultaneous users, 6 million messages. I'd like to see them .

Zuni, if you don't mind answering this, what do you feel are the advantages of ColdFusion in the area of web forums and content management systems? I'm just starting to learn PHP, and it seems easy enough, but if performance were not a concern, what reasons would someone choose ColdFusion to write a web app for instead of PHP (basically I'm wondering if I should learn CF, too - and don't worry, I'm not starting any businesses or planning to make any products that would compete with yours )?

Thats a great question, the biggest thing ColdFusion has going for it is RAD (Rapid Application Development). There really isn't another main stream web based language that comes close, including PHP. Performance between PHP and ColdFusion are probably about the same these days. ColdFusion MX brings with it some new enhancements that PHP doesn't have, webservices, and a standards based platform. You can write webservices, consume webservices very very quickly and that is where web development is right now. If I were you I'd be learning JAVA/JSP, and or one of the CLR's for .NET, probably C# or J#. ColdFusion is really a language tagset that is deployed on top of a J2EE platform. Currently ColdFusion MX deploys on JRUN, Websphere, Sun ONE, BEA Weblogic.

Does that help?

Uh, nice first post.

 

[thorin]

Sengir, what are some examples of forums with the traffic that AnandTech forums have? 2500-4000 simultaneous users, 6 million messages. I'd like to see them .

I can only think of Sun forums and Oracle forums I've seen powered by Jive (which is Java/JSP based and uses almost any db you can connect to via JDBC). And they'd definately match/exceed those stats. However licensing for Jive is pretty expensive and FuseTalk seems to be working more then fine here..... Not to mention (IMHO) vBulletin looks like it's built by 13yr olds for 12yr olds, I'm sure you can skin it up all nice and respectable but all the installations/implementations I've ever seen look like cr@p and feel like they're running on P233s or something like that (but that's just my limited experience).

Thorin