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vettel sets a blistering pole, alonso 3rd, webber 5th.

webber has a weak qualifying and finds himself out of position. fernando takes 3rd with a last-second effort and is 1 step closer to the title.
 
My opinion on team orders is that if the driver chooses to give up a spot for his team it's OK. If the team tells him to give up the spot it's not.

If you watched that post race interview Massa clearly did not want to give up that position.
 
GoatMonkey said:
My opinion on team orders is that if the driver chooses to give up a spot for his team it's OK. If the team tells him to give up the spot it's not.

If you watched that post race interview Massa clearly did not want to give up that position.
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So they can tell a driver before the race that it would be a good idea to move over if he's ahead near the end, and that would be okay? The decision is then the driver's? No taint then?

It's not unsportsmanlike to decide on your own not to compete, not to try to win?

Why start the race then if you are of a mind not to try your best if it's convenient?
 
The Boston Dangler said:
vettel sets a blistering pole, alonso 3rd, webber 5th.

webber has a weak qualifying and finds himself out of position. fernando takes 3rd with a last-second effort and is 1 step closer to the title.
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Webber is really handing this title to Alonso. All Alonso has to do now is finish 4th or better and Vettel winning wouldn't matter. Alonso would be champion.

Man, what a great venue though. I watched all of the second practice session yesterday and it is just an incredible facility.
 
JulesMaximus said:
Webber is really handing this title to Alonso. All Alonso has to do now is finish 4th or better and Vettel winning wouldn't matter. Alonso would be champion.

Man, what a great venue though. I watched all of the second practice session yesterday and it is just an incredible facility.
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It is gorgeous, but that net like structure that goes over the hotel and stuff just looks like a massive penis.
 
JulesMaximus said:
Webber is really handing this title to Alonso. All Alonso has to do now is finish 4th or better and Vettel winning wouldn't matter. Alonso would be champion.

Man, what a great venue though. I watched all of the second practice session yesterday and it is just an incredible facility.
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it's a gorgeous facility with 1st class amenities, put the track is a dud. with a huge budget and clean sheet of paper, it's too bad that's the best they could do.
 
I'm rooting for Vettel but in all likelyhood it's going to be Alonso's. Team orders should be legal in F1, yeah they suck but they are going to do it anyways so just make it legal and be done with it. If your not going to penalize them in a way that matters.(i.e. take away points) then why have the rule to start with? Fineing them 100k is like us getting a $.10 fine, who gives a crap.
 
lol @ Weber. Much funnier in gif form

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Wow, great race and incredible outcome. Congratulations to Sebastian Vettel for his 1st World Drivers' Championship!

I think Ferrari played it too conservatively and it cost them big time. Following Webber's early pit stop turned out to be a bad call because Fernando was then stuck behind Petrov in the Renault for the rest of the race.

I honestly thought Vettel was a bit of a long shot for the title and Hamilton basically needed a miracle but as the race played out it really came to Vettel who drove a great race.

It was nice to see some emotion out of Vettel too. What a great day for him and a great finish to an incredible season.
 
I think previous races showed how long those soft tires could last and Ferrari pussied out and pitted way too early. But massive grats to Vettel.
 
Of all the people to win the title, Beiber, err Vettel was the last guy I wanted. Trash talk aside, good for Vettel. He's an incredibly talented driver and Red Bull won both titles the right way. That entire team has been very impressive and they're going to be fun to watch in 2011.
 
The Boston Dangler said:
i love the double standards and selective memory displayed by fans.

ferrari uses team orders in an overt way - crucify them!
everyone else does it with subtlety, so that casual fans have no idea - brilliant!

meanwhile, mclaren overtly breaks the rule concerning minimum fuel level during qualifying (canada), gets fined a measly $10,000, and everyone laughs their heads off.
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As far as I am aware the rules only require them to submit a sample at the end of qually. They complied with that, therefore lived up to the wording of the rules, if not their spirit. Formula 1 is all about technicalities... (see double diffusers, blown diffusers etc.).
 
Yep, Alonso stopped way too early and that was that. Would have thought that where Webber came out would have been a clue that they needed to stay out longer...
 
One more example of Alonso being a jackass at 2:30. I'm glad he lost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cAazi_xj90

It would have been a little better if Webber won. That was probably one of his last opportunities. Vettel is a great driver though, I've expected him to win a championship after seeing his performance in the rain a few years back.
 
Perfectly normal for Alonso to be mad at Petrov for holding him up, imo. Not that I agree with Alonso, but Alonso is not a jackass for it.
 
He did the same in Monaco... I think to Alguersuari. lol Although it's unfortunate that cars that aren't involved in the title fight prevented a straight fight between the contenders, like they did in Brazil, everybody has to deal with them all the same. Bad call in hindsight to cover Webber instead of just staying out like Button. Abu Dhabi is a shit track anyway. Good season nontheless... well done to finger boy! Can't wait for March!

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