Former or Current Military. Whats the best MOS?

[keird]

Okay. You get a pass Mister.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

Ranger, Airborne will get you in the club, but go Pathfinder instead of Air Assault, if you dare. From what I witnessed, it's the most difficult academic course the military offers.

If you want a practical course, go to the National Guard's Mountain Warfare course in Jericho, VT. That's a great set of skills for your tool-box! [edit: a lot of Ranger RTB instructors, Sapper instructors and SF go to that school. It's for a reason.]

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

you'll love airborne school if you go as an officer can. there is nothing more they love then ragging on rotc cadets and ocs. man oh man.

whats the point of airborne and air assualt though if your going into ADA or FA? unless you can find someone to jump with, you'd lose status. plus, you wouldn't get the extra pay.
if you wanna do airborne and ranger school you should look into something that would allow you to maintain jump status, get pay, and get to play.

 

[pstylesss]

21B

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

Ranger, Airborne will get you in the club, but go Pathfinder instead of Air Assault, if you dare. From what I witnessed, it's the most difficult academic course the military offers.

If you want a practical course, go to the National Guard's Mountain Warfare course in Jericho, VT. That's a great set of skills for your tool-box!

my biggest dissapointment when i came out was that there used to be a pathfinder unit at NAS Dallas, and i was going to join them in reserves when i left active duty, and they were disbanded...


if you really want to man up, after airborne school, go to ft. lee and see if you can pick up 92R as a secondary MOS. You wouldn't imagine the number of friends you'll end up with.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

if you really want to man up, after airborne school, go to ft. lee and see if you can pick up 92R as a secondary MOS. You wouldn't imagine the number of friends you'll end up with.

Yeah, if I need a high-speed seamstress.

lulz

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: theblackbox

if you really want to man up, after airborne school, go to ft. lee and see if you can pick up 92R as a secondary MOS. You wouldn't imagine the number of friends you'll end up with.

Yeah, if I need a high-speed seamstress.

lulz

yeah, well. it's not all glory...

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: keird

Originally posted by: theblackbox

if you really want to man up, after airborne school, go to ft. lee and see if you can pick up 92R as a secondary MOS. You wouldn't imagine the number of friends you'll end up with.

Yeah, if I need a high-speed seamstress.

lulz

yeah, well. it's not all glory...

I happen to know a teddy bear that had a harness fitted for it. I think a flares chute from a 81mm mortar was the requirement.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

you'll love airborne school if you go as an officer can. there is nothing more they love then ragging on rotc cadets and ocs. man oh man.

whats the point of airborne and air assualt though if your going into ADA or FA? unless you can find someone to jump with, you'd lose status. plus, you wouldn't get the extra pay.
if you wanna do airborne and ranger school you should look into something that would allow you to maintain jump status, get pay, and get to play.

Officer Candidates can't go to airborne school. They're by definition officer candidates, enrolled in Officer Candidate School. We're right across the street from Airborne here at Benning. We graduate in February. We'll be commissioned as 2LTs. Then we can go on to other schools. Rank is, in theory, meaningless in Airborne anyway. The black hats are in charge and that's that.

Not looking for extra pay on jump status. We've just been told to hit all the schools we can to try and get some respect as 2LTs, and if we ever go up for COL it helps to be Ranger tabbed.

 

[theblackbox]

a little back to officers and airborne status.

the dumbest thing i ever saw an officer do was get his hand (he had a watch on) snagged by his static line. no idea why his hand was where it was, but he came down and was missing a watch and his arm and shoulder didn't look to good. we took him in one of the k-5's to the post hospital (and we tried to hit every bump and hole we could), and man he was jacked up. i only got told what the jumpmaster and loadmaster saw afterwards, and i had to write it up. stupid ass captain. sigh, i used to love doing arteps.
best part of it was after setting up the jump, we had been running opfor (old CCCP, man the 1-509th was good.) and i had to wait at the dam hospital in opfor uniform. i looked like a dumbass in soviet garb.

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

you'll love airborne school if you go as an officer can. there is nothing more they love then ragging on rotc cadets and ocs. man oh man.

whats the point of airborne and air assualt though if your going into ADA or FA? unless you can find someone to jump with, you'd lose status. plus, you wouldn't get the extra pay.
if you wanna do airborne and ranger school you should look into something that would allow you to maintain jump status, get pay, and get to play.

Officer Candidates can't go to airborne school. They're by definition officer candidates, enrolled in Officer Candidate School. We're right across the street from Airborne here at Benning. We graduate in February. We'll be commissioned as 2LTs. Then we can go on to other schools. Rank is, in theory, meaningless in Airborne anyway. The black hats are in charge and that's that.

Not looking for extra pay on jump status. We've just been told to hit all the schools we can to try and get some respect as 2LTs, and if we ever go up for COL it helps to be Ranger tabbed.

hmmm. when i was in we had cadets (who dumbly wore their rotc circles) and we had some who didn't wear rank and were not enlisted. i always thought they were up and coming officers. oh well. mystery of life i'll never know.

 

[vshah]

its like a WOW discussion, but way cooler and in real life :thumbsup:

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Alone
00120, won't say more.

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Sup?

comm research? looks like a pregnant lady can do your job: http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/leitrim.html

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Nebor
09S. Actually, the 09S MOS kind of sucks since you get treated about like you're in Basic Training. But when you're done you get a real MOS as a platoon leader in whatever Army Branch you want.

don't worry, if you make it and become an officer, you'll be treated like shit, too.

never met an officer in the army that couldn't be replaced by a temp agency.

i remember during the force reductions before we went to the gulf and before that was an issue, where the army spent it's time dumping butterbars and captains in dead end jobs. most the ones i knew weren't even given the option of going ar/ng. just out.

if you decide to go combat arms, please know your job.

Yeah the force reductions of the 90s were rough from what I understand. Promotions are automatic all the way to LTC these days though. Speaking honestly, I'm one of the good ones here. There are a lot of guys about to be commissioned as 2LTs that are: stupid, apathetic, power hungry or just doing it for the money (enlisted moving to officer side.) I was having a conversation earlier with a fellow OC about how badly some of these guys are going to reflect on the entire officer corps in just a few weeks.

I'm trying to decide between ADA and FA right now.

ADA...ah. i used to love going to ft. bliss. well, good luck to you. i would imagine now more then ever they need officers.

What they need is field grade officers. So they've made promotions automatic to speed that along. But they're also cannibalizing the senior NCO ranks. There are tons of E7s, and a few E8s in my OCS class. Their COCs pushed them hard to come to OCS. Then yesterday it was announced that any E8s were eligible for direct commission to O3, and E9s are eligible for direct commission to O4. Which begs the question, who's going to do all the real work in the Army when there are 50,000 field grade officers and no Sergeant Majors?

Yeah that's the problem right now:
the Officer Corps is in pretty bad shape - the war is apparently tough on that side of the Army.
I just read that, as of this year, less than 50% of the 2002 Westpoint class is still in the service. :shocked: That's rough. Westpoint is usually full of guys wanting to go career.

I'm going the officer route through ROTC, and I really wish I was enlisted prior, but I wanted to get a 4-year degree and feared once I skipped out on it after highschool to go Army, that I'd never return and end up without a degree. That's kind of how I am when it comes to school regardless, and with people in my family having done something similar, I just wanted to make sure I got school out of the way.

And then.. then I learn you could go National Guard during time in ROTC and not get deployed, thus not getting my schooling all messed up (otherwise, yes, I actually want to be deployed... yes, I'm not right in the head I fear :laugh. But when I learned that, I already had accepted a scholarship through ROTC/school and had contracted into the Army, so my chance to go NG was over.

But yeah, I'm planning on going career, as long as I can find some enjoyment in whatever branch I get stuck in. I say stuck in, because I doubt my top choice will be granted. See, not sure about OCS, but going the ROTC route, we gotta compete for our branches with all the other graduated ROTC cadets, and 40% of our score that determines our rank in that national list is GPA... something I'm not doing all that great on, nothing that is competitive for sure.
My top choices are all combat. #1 is Armor, then after that, not sure what rank I'll place them at, but IN, FA, ADA are all going to be top choices. Signal Corp will be somewhere in the top 10 because I have CCNA training experience and was going to go career in that field until I decided I'd get bored with it as a career. MI is going to be somewhere in the top too, because I am pretty interested in that, but I just want combat.
I already know PLs are going to have little to do with combat operations compared to the NCOs in the PLTs, so thats why I want a combat branch, so I can get as close as possible. See, my style of leadership is going to kind of just be the 'nice' officer that you don't want to try and take advantage of or piss off, but will have some damn good plans in combat. At least, that's what I expect of myself. I have a weird style of kind of getting into the head of others, in the sense that I can tend to reliably predict what someone else is going to do based on the circumstances. Now obviously this hasn't been tested in battle, and is why I wish I could see battle prior to becoming an officer just so I can see if I can do that same thought process relatively accurately.
But the other thing is, before any former NCOs come breathing down my neck in this thread - believe me when I say my first thing is going to be working with my NCOs and learning a great deal from them. I'm just gonna have to be careful not to let my NCOs take charge of my unit, as I've talked personally with a few NCOs outside of my ROTC unit and been warned about that, or kind of had it suggested that even they like to do that, until they can at least trust their PL and the PL earns their respect.

 

[olds]

13 Foxtrot
We got to blow shit up. Plus everyone was scared of us because we were crazy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_observer

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

Cool. A 3 jump, chump.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: Farang

comm research? looks like a pregnant lady can do your job: http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/leitrim.html

The windowless building thing had me a bit bothered, so I'm more EW.

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

Cool. A 3 jump, chump.

five jump chump... unless they changed it

and miss the cherry jump. you know, a long time ago i would have been all over it, but these days i could care less. if you want that experience and want to do something, then do it. i'm not so attached to what i was when i was young. The only thing i'm still attached to is there was a day when a beret meant something. all i have left of my time is an old beret, my flash, an old challenge coin (still good for a few drinks), some patches pulled off of my old bdu's before i got rid of them.
i got rid of all my ta-50(which i held over from my reserve/IRR time, well except for the goretex field jacket , which i kept and still use, although i could care less for wearing camo these days.

i'm just not sentimental anymore when it comes to that. i did my thing, did my time, and moved on, even though it is fun to talk about it once in a while.
but, i ran into so many rotc people that did as many schools as they could just to do them. i never understood that, but i guess now, i'd rather have someone that did something before they were in the field, regardless of what it was.

 

[TallBill]

18X is probably the best. But how the hell would I know, I've only been an MP so far. Start ROTC for 2 years in about 7-8 months.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: theblackbox
a dump-truck full of e-6's. some of the best nco's i knew when i was in where staff sergeants.
So what other schools have you got out of your way?

I plan on going to Ranger, Airborne and Air Assault when I get the chance. Airborne and Air Assault can usually be done in gaps between OCS and BOLC II and BOLC III. Ranger is usually after BOLC III if I do the Ranger PT every morning while at BOLC III. It's a bit easier for officers to get slots in those schools, even if they're in branches where they make no sense (like ADA.)

Cool. A 3 jump, chump.

Roger that. :thumbsup: