Forget John Romero - XBox360 and PS3 ARE *Doomed*

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Originally posted by: apoppin
absolute nonsense ... xbox 360 can only manage A LOWER refresh rate ... and it has ZERO - AA/AF
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Last I heard Xbox360 games have a mandatory 2x AA for all games. This was certainly MS's rule when all games ran at 720p; they may have softened this requirement for games that run in 1080p. Part of the reason MS/ATI decided to go with 10MB of eDRAM on the die of Xenos was to allow essentially free 2X AA for all games.

Originally posted by: apoppin

and just NEXT year ... the PS3 is gonna look like "crap" - next to DX10 games ...
that isn't even HALF it's cycle
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Do you mean Crysis? Crysis looks good but what else is there? Alan Wake (also coming out for Xbox360?). DX10 games aren't coming in droves next year, man.

Originally posted by: apoppin
finally jiffylube1024 - really WHO cares what John Romero says ...
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The creator of this thread, apparently.

Originally posted by: apoppin
however this has more *way beyond him* ... so many experts happen to agree that the next gen MS and Sony console are not only a disappointment, but a real drain on their makers ... one that they may not care to further support
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Experts like who?

Originally posted by: apoppin
Even MS has limits ... so far they have LOST over 5 BILLION dollars on xbox platform
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So which card are you trying to play apoppin, the "Console market isn't financially viable" card or the PC is better than Console card? IMO the only reason Xbox360 and PS3 aren't shattering sales figures of last generation is because of the prohibitive price of systems this generation and sketchy reliability figures (red ring of death, Sony's dubious history with launch systems).

Originally posted by: apoppin
and John Carmack DID praise the xbox360 as *easy* to port for and would be a nice *cash cow* for id's brainless games
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Versus the other, much more brainy shooters? Meanwhle if id didn't announce they would support Xbox360 so strongly I'm sure they'd be one of the cornerstones of your diminishing PC development circle.

The problem is that the PC gaming market isn't developing or even really expanding. The FPS craze was huge for the PC graphics card industry, and the advent of MMORPG's caused the last big boost to the PC gaming industry. But with Consoles putting an even bigger focus on online gaming and MS putting pressure on developers to release for the Xbox360, and oftentimes release for the Xbox360 first and exclusively for awhile (Gears of War, Jade Empire, etc), that tears into the PC gaming industry sales as a whole.

If the next smash hit World of Warcraft-like MMORPG goes multiconsole with PC and the Xbox360 (or PS3), than PC gaming could be in serious trouble.

IMO what will make PC gaming viable again is when the prices of a gaming PC aren't double to quadruple that of a console. Unifying CPU's/GPU's along with a couple die shrinks should help, but imagine what that will do for the next gen of consoles as well?
 
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Does GoW even run on the x360 at 1080p? ... i Know there is NO AA :p
[it's jaggie heaven] ... PC can manage much higher resolutions ... with 16XAA

yes, we *expect* DX10 games in 08 ... that IS next year ... crysis looks like crud in comparison

let me try AGAIN - JL - discount John Romero's comments ... the rest of this thread stands

Try *reading* the thread ... i will not read it for you to pick out the experts i quoted
:thumbsdown:

and glad you agree - the 360 and PS3 AREN'T doing well


the "next gen" of consoles?
:roll:

2011-2012
:p

hope MS and Sony are as farsighted as you are

 
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Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xiHaqCFQLxA
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LOL
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I don't know whats better that video or the fact that MyStupidMouth is still posting in this thread like he's lost.

"This isn't where I parked my car?"
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i have no idea why he brings so much attention to this thread

i AM flattered

:lips:

he even had me in his sig for awhile - right after i posted it
:shocked:

--could it be?

:p
 
schneiderguy

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Does GoW even run on the x360 at 1080p? ... i Know there is NO AA :p
[it's jaggie heaven] ...
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it runs at 720p with no AA, and i agree with you, it IS jaggie heaven. I have yet to see a xbox 360 game using aa at 720p. what is the 10mb of dram on the GPU for if you cant use it for free AA???? :confused:
 
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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xiHaqCFQLxA
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LOL
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Flea Market
Montgomery
It's just like
It's just like
A Mini-

MALL!
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i guess this is what you do during class

--at Jr. High

no wonder you don't know anything

... about consoles ... but you DO know youtube :p


pay attention!

THIS thread is about consoles

:roll:
 
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Jules

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Sniper82
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xiHaqCFQLxA
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LOL
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Flea Market
Montgomery
It's just like
It's just like
A Mini-

MALL!
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i guess this is what you do during class

--at Jr. High

no wonder you don't know anything

... about consoles ... but you DO know youtube :p


pay attention!

THIS thread is about consoles

:roll:
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Its Saturday.

Heres another one. http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se...ideo/x1tf95_rampage-buying-a-jockstrap
 
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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: apoppin
do you need another mod to remind you where you *are* at ... right now? :p

;)
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No need to hide it that your a mod :D
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that *really* IS a LoL

RotFLPiP
:D

thanks, man ... you brightened my day

now ...

i wonder what the [real] mods think of your joke ?
:p

:roll:

if i "was" ... you and several other forum members would already be SO gone
:Q

*another* mod would be better than the *same* mod that reminded you last time
--in THIS thread ... remember? ... your sig - the one you changed at their request ;)
:confused:
 
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Jules

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: apoppin
do you need another mod to remind you where you *are* at ... right now? :p

;)
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No need to hide it that your a mod :D
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that *really* IS a LoL

RotFLPiP
:D

thanks, man ... you brightened my day

now ...

i wonder what the [real] mods think of your joke ?
:p

:roll:

if i "was" ... you and several other forum members would already be SO gone
:Q

*another* mod would be better than the *same* mod that reminded you last time
--in THIS thread ... remember? ... your sig - the one you changed at their request ;)
:confused:
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Your the one that sent me the pm.
 
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apoppin

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look in your PM - "Message History"

the *first* PM - EVAR - between you and i was *yours*:

MyStupidMouth [it was about 'games'] 04/13/2007 12:06 PM
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our LAST one was "mine" 04/16/2007 07:44 AM

you ARE confused :p

:roll:

now ... check you message history for "anandtech moderator" ... also probably the 12 or 13th

do you get it yet ?
:confused:
 
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Jules

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Originally posted by: apoppin
look in your PM - "Message History"

the *first* PM - EVAR - between you and i was *yours*:

MyStupidMouth [it was about 'games'] 04/13/2007 12:06 PM
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our LAST one was "mine" 04/16/2007 07:44 AM

you ARE confused :p

:roll:

now ... check you message history for "anandtech moderator" ... also probably the 12 or 13th

do you get it yet ?
:confused:
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Why would i want to do that?
 
apoppin

apoppin

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do what?

why the HELL did you contact me ... i don't know why ?

should i know why you contacted me first ?
:confused:

and yet you did ... our message history is proof that you did initiate it
--did you think you were contacting or replying to someone else?

i was surprised as hell ... that my thread's troll would PM me and attempt to "make conversation" :p

 
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apoppin

Lifer
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well you contacted me first :p

i guess you *thought* i was the mod that warned you

:D

and schneiderguy - these last 13 posts or so make everyone sick - except for our Jr. troll
 
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Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
well you contacted me first :p

i guess you *thought* i was the mod that warned you

:D
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And what does that have to do with you wanting me to check my message history? i dont want to.
 
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