Forget it, I don't have time for this crap

[PhaZe]

I thought all dogs shed hair?

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: NFS4
**Thanks to those that were helpful, but I don't need rescue dogs shoved down my throat**

welcome to ATOT... where eveyone is into Holier than tho causes.

see the wailing ship vs japanese thread for another example.

people here espousse the holier than thou POV...

but i doubt they follow their own advise.

 

[Farang]

One thing you might want to look into is shelter dogs

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: PhaZe
I thought all dogs shed hair?

Correct. There is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. All dogs have dander.

 

[miketheidiot]

i read in this thread somewhere around here were it was a good idea to get a rescue dog.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Um... I paid $300 for my corgi & he was raised on a decently sized horse farm & the pups had a really big pen.

$1500 for a Golden? You got taken for a ride.

Every time I venture into AT for even a few minutes I remember why I leave.

You don't know what you're talking about, but true to ATOT, that's not surprising. Do a little research and maybe get back to me.

You're the one whose "research" led them to buy a golden for $1500.

The key to getting a dog from a reputable breeder is not to pay 4 or 5 times the market value for the breed, but to go to the breeder's place and ask questions. Golden's are a very popular breed. You don't need to overpay to get a good one.

But, whatever, you've established yourself many a time as a snob, so I won't tell you how to spend your money.

 

[nageov3t]

I've had a number of shelter dogs in my lifetime and I really think it's a crapshoot in terms of behavior, temperament, and health... temperament especially, and doubly if they're not puppies because who knows how they were raised.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

Because people are d-bags.

There is nothing wrong with a purebred dog. Enjoy.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: NFS4

My wife and I want to raise the dog from a little puppy and potty train him/her etc.

That's actually a good idea (if you know how to raise a dog properly), it can be quite irritating to unteach dogs bad habits. That and a dog you've raised from the beginning will probably be more attached to you.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Um... I paid $300 for my corgi & he was raised on a decently sized horse farm & the pups had a really big pen.

$1500 for a Golden? You got taken for a ride.

Every time I venture into AT for even a few minutes I remember why I leave.

You don't know what you're talking about, but true to ATOT, that's not surprising. Do a little research and maybe get back to me.

You're the one whose "research" led them to buy a golden for $1500.

The key to getting a dog from a reputable breeder is not to pay 4 or 5 times the market value for the breed, but to go to the breeder's place and ask questions. Golden's are a very popular breed. You don't need to overpay to get a good one.

But, whatever, you've established yourself many a time as a snob, so I won't tell you how to spend your money.

seriously, $1500 is way overpriced for a GR.

$300-500 is about right I think.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Yeah, that's the way to look at it I guess. The things live to be about 13 or 15, so it's a great investment.

How old is your dog. Any pics?

Dogs as an investment???

You guys have some problems.

investment is something you expect to get positive future benefit out of. it's not necessarily financial.

 

[arkcom]

What about a shelter dog?

 

[Liet]

Hey, have you considered a shelter dog?

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

Because people are d-bags.

There is nothing wrong with a purebred dog. Enjoy.

They are more likely to have genetic issues because of purebreeds have a smaller genetic pool than a mutt/mix-breed. Corgis, for example are predisposed to having spine and back trouble.

 

[Rastus]

 

[DaTT]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

It says he's 2-3; hell, they don't even know how old he is. That's not a little puppy/baby.

My wife and I want to raise the dog from a little puppy and potty train him/her etc.

If the dog was not surrendered without the information, the rescue has to make an estimate on the age which can easily be done. When I adopted my mini-dachshund, his age was estimated to be 3-4 years. I made his birthday the day I rescued him.

Why would you want to deal with potty training your dog? I rescued my mini-dachshund at age 3-4 and my current ridgeback at 10 months. After adopting one of my ridgebacks at age 10 weeks, I'm happy not to have to deal with puppy stage again.

I can also say that my mini-dachshund who I've had for 5 years is as bonded to me as my ridgeback that I adopted at 10 weeks.

Wow...

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: NFS4
**Thanks to those that were helpful, but I don't need rescue dogs shoved down my throat**

welcome to ATOT... where eveyone is into Holier than tho causes.

see the wailing ship vs japanese thread for another example.

people here espousse the holier than thou POV...

but i doubt they follow their own advise.

Both my dogs are rescue dogs. One was a mother from a puppy mill, the other was going to be put to sleep. Both from labs for rescue.

When we got the female, you could see every bone in her body.

Of course I'm going to recommend every fucking person who wants a pet to rescue one.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: skace
Both my dogs are rescue dogs. One was a mother from a puppy mill, the other was going to be put to sleep. Both from labs for rescue.

When we got the female, you could see every bone in her body.

Of course I'm going to recommend every fucking person who wants a pet to rescue one.

That's a great story, and I'm all for rescuing animals from shelters (every animal I have ever owned came off the street/from a shelter).

HOWEVER,

You're being a d-bag for pushing an agenda that clearly doesn't apply. The OP has several requirements for getting an animal. Meeting these requirements from an shelter animal would be damn near impossible.

And of course that's before he basically posted "no more animal shelter comments". Do you really think someone so opposed to the idea (whatever that idea is) will simply come around because one more person gave them a bleeding heart story?

I'm sure you'll get your panties in a wad over this, or maybe, just maybe you can take this as an opportunity to realize you like to push your opinions on other people too much.

So of course your should use your brain and recommend shelter animals to everyone when the situation is smart.

Because no one wants to look stupid... Right?

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
I'm sure you'll get your panties in a wad over this, or maybe, just maybe you can take this as an opportunity to realize you like to push your opinions on other people too much.

So of course your should use your brain and recommend shelter animals to everyone when the situation is smart.

Because no one wants to look stupid... Right?

Your comment looks completely out of place because you'll realize that is the first time I posted in this thread, I haven't been "pushing my agenda". Next time you go to post a storming tirade you might want to make sure you know who you are posting about.

I was just referring to the retard who said people around here don't back up what they say.

 

[Ika]

do they have rock salt at these "shelters"?

 

[ViviTheMage]

Those dogs are too small to be considered dogs!

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: dawp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

Because people are d-bags.

There is nothing wrong with a purebred dog. Enjoy.

They are more likely to have genetic issues because of purebreeds have a smaller genetic pool than a mutt/mix-breed. Corgis, for example are predisposed to having spine and back trouble.

I'm going to venture a guess and say that Corgis are predisposed to having spine and back trouble because their spine and back is twice as long as they should be for the size of the dog.

 

[lokiju]

The price really isn't that out of line from what I've seen for special breed dogs.

I was looking at a dachshund awhile back from a breeder that was around that same price.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
shelter dog for the win. Most breeders have no business in the art.

We already have an over population of pets.

My dog was $67.50 from a shelter...he was 4 months old.

This included, all shots, rabies tag, microchip, neuter, 2 flea treatments (one on take home and another to give in a month), one free vet visit, a two week warranty (all treatment free), 1 bag of science diet, 1 obedience class, and a training/care DVD with a pet ID tag.

But no bag of chips?

 

[surfsatwerk]

Toy breeds should be rounded up and put in camps. They're an insult upon the dignity of the species.