Forget it, I don't have time for this crap

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I posted a thread earlier about dogs, but since the first post was hijacked, I can't update the title. So here we go. We've been researching dogs for quite some time. We quit for a while while we were in wedding prep mode, but since the wedding is now over, we've been stepping up the pace a lot.

We researched, and researched, and researched and finally settled on a Havanese

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/havanese.htm

They don't shed, they're extremely smart, they're good with children, they don't bark a lot, and they love daily walks -- perfect for us. However, I've looked at local breeders and they all are charging about $1,500 for a AKC certified dog. Now, I never bought a dog before so I don't know if this is outrageous, but that is well past our budget.

From what I understand, Havanese dogs aren't an extremely popular breed, so it's not something that you could just pickup from a rescue shelter or a pound I would assume?

I guess you have to pay to play, and we'd be willing to wait a bit longer and save up some more money, but doesn't $1,500 seem a bit outrageous?

Those dogs are hideously ugly. Go to a shelter and rescue a dog.

 

[alkemyst]

shelter dog for the win. Most breeders have no business in the art.

We already have an over population of pets.

My dog was $67.50 from a shelter...he was 4 months old.

This included, all shots, rabies tag, microchip, neuter, 2 flea treatments (one on take home and another to give in a month), one free vet visit, a two week warranty (all treatment free), 1 bag of science diet, 1 obedience class, and a training/care DVD with a pet ID tag.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Havanese for $1500? I think I'll be Havingnone.

win.

I'll be Havanose.

eh? eh?

<golf clap>

SonnyDaze still wins though.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Yeah, that's the way to look at it I guess. The things live to be about 13 or 15, so it's a great investment.

How old is your dog. Any pics?

Dogs as an investment???

You guys have some problems.

Yes, it's an investment in a healthy companion, one that came from a responsible breeder.

In other words, don't take things so literally.

Just sounds like someone trying to justify paying so much for a dog when you can get a great dog from a shelter that needs a home.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Um... I paid $300 for my corgi & he was raised on a decently sized horse farm & the pups had a really big pen.

$1500 for a Golden? You got taken for a ride.

Every time I venture into AT for even a few minutes I remember why I leave.

You don't know what you're talking about, but true to ATOT, that's not surprising. Do a little research and maybe get back to me.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I guarantee you can find a dog you'll fall in love from the link in my sig.

I checked the dogs in my area (puppies) and most of the grow up to be rather large dogs. My wife isn't going for anything larger than about 10-15 pounds.

That being said, a random shelter dog is not what we were really looking for in the first place.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Descartes
I paid $1500 for my golden retriever after a lot of research. A hobbyist breeder barely breaks even at $1500 a pup, so to me it's worth the investment to support someone with responsible breeding practices.

I only have one anecdotal example, but the $1500 I spent on my dog was one of the best investments I've ever made. Great dog.

Yeah, that's the way to look at it I guess. The things live to be about 13 or 15, so it's a great investment.

How old is your dog. Any pics?

Dogs as an investment???

You guys have some problems.

Yes, it's an investment in a healthy companion, one that came from a responsible breeder.

In other words, don't take things so literally.

Just sounds like someone trying to justify paying so much for a dog when you can get a great dog from a shelter that needs a home.

Yes, you're right. Why weren't you available when I made that decision? If only you could have expressed your wisdom you could have saved me $1500.

Or, you could take 5 minutes, educate yourself about a topic you know nothing about?

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I guarantee you can find a dog you'll fall in love from the link in my sig.

I checked the dogs in my area (puppies) and most of the grow up to be rather large dogs. My wife isn't going for anything larger than about 10-15 pounds.

That being said, a random shelter dog is not what we were really looking for in the first place.

Get a cat instead.
The cats I've had were all obtained free from a relative who owns a farm.
They've all been perfectly nice little critters.

 

[hans030390]

How do those things NOT shed?

 

[NFS4]

On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I guarantee you can find a dog you'll fall in love from the link in my sig.

I checked the dogs in my area (puppies) and most of the grow up to be rather large dogs. My wife isn't going for anything larger than about 10-15 pounds.

That being said, a random shelter dog is not what we were really looking for in the first place.

You'll also find plenty of breed-specific rescues. They will have fostered the dog/puppy and be able to provide the dog/puppy's history, temperament, etc...

I recent look in local shelters near me turned-up chihuahuas, Boston Terriers and even a Maltese.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: hans030390
How do those things NOT shed?

All dogs shed to a certain degree. But Havanese and others shed very, very, VERY little (they're considered hypoallergenic).

My parents have two toy poodles and you rarely if ever see hair laying around. The only time you see hair is when they come home from the groomers and they have some loose hair still hanging around.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

It's why I have stayed out of this thread, but let me just say, the impulse to post anyway was quite strong. I think it has to do with the unbelievable yearly canine holocaust that is a byproduct of our acquisitive/throwaway/mercantile attitude towards pets.

So, thank-you, OP, for giving me the weaselly opening to sneak in my strongly held opinion.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

Havanese dogs - http://www.petfinder.com/searc...=&pet.Sex=&location=NC

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

It says he's 2-3; hell, they don't even know how old he is. That's not a little puppy/baby.

My wife and I want to raise the dog from a little puppy and potty train him/her etc.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

love our havanese

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
love our havanese

Do you have any pics of your dog that you could share? They are such lovely little dogs.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

It says he's 2-3; hell, they don't even know how old he is. That's not a little puppy/baby.

My wife and I want to raise the dog from a little puppy and potty train him/her etc.

If the dog was not surrendered without the information, the rescue has to make an estimate on the age which can easily be done. When I adopted my mini-dachshund, his age was estimated to be 3-4 years. I made his birthday the day I rescued him.

Why would you want to deal with potty training your dog? I rescued my mini-dachshund at age 3-4 and my current ridgeback at 10 months. After adopting one of my ridgebacks at age 10 weeks, I'm happy not to have to deal with puppy stage again.

I can also say that my mini-dachshund who I've had for 5 years is as bonded to me as my ridgeback that I adopted at 10 weeks.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

Havanese dogs - http://www.petfinder.com/searc...=&pet.Sex=&location=NC

Because who pay that much for dogs will use any excuse to not get one from a shelter/pound.

 

[Safeway]

That dog is ugly. Why get an ugly dog?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: NFS4
On a separate note, why does every thread about someone wanting a purebred dog result in over half of the posters telling you to get a rescue dog or a dog from the pound? I understand that it's an admirable thing to do, but sheesh.

If that's not what someone wants to do, move on. It's getting like a broken record in here.

B/c you can find a pure-breed thru a rescue and/or pound.

Two of my ridgebacks and my mini-dachshund were adopted from rescues. When millions of dogs/cats are put to sleep every year, people are going to want you to consider one.

If I could find a Havanese puppy rescue, that would be all well and good, but the chances of finding one are probably slim to none. And how am I supposed to know the history of a rescue dog?

I just prefer not to take the chance and know what I'm getting myself into.

You didn't do a search did you? There a ton of Havanese dogs on petfinder.com

Here's one in NC - http://www.petfinder.com/petno...pet.cgi?petid=11471160

Also, there is a litter of cute Havanese/poodle mixes in OH.

It says he's 2-3; hell, they don't even know how old he is. That's not a little puppy/baby.

My wife and I want to raise the dog from a little puppy and potty train him/her etc.

If the dog was not surrendered without the information, the rescue has to make an estimate on the age which can easily be done. When I adopted my mini-dachshund, his age was estimated to be 3-4 years. I made his birthday the day I rescued him.

Why would you want to deal with potty training your dog? I rescued my mini-dachshund at age 3-4 and my current ridgeback at 10 months. After adopting one of my ridgebacks at age 10 weeks, I'm happy not to have to deal with puppy stage again.

I can also say that my mini-dachshund who I've had for 5 years is as bonded to me as my ridgeback that I adopted at 10 weeks.

Why does it matter?

But just so you ask, all of the dogs I've had when growing up have been purebred dogs that we have raised from little pups. Potty training is not something that bothers me.

 

[NFS4]

Sheesh, why did I even bother asking here. Forget it.

Thanks HardcoreRobot for your PM and your help.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Safeway
That dog is ugly. Why get an ugly dog?

Finally! Some controversy we can ALL get behind.