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Foreign Aid by country to SE Asia

yeah france is doing pretty crappy there, my guess they are talking right now what more to do... hoping

I'm expecialy proud of denmark there
 
go check out the cnn.com poll about donations. how pitiful that people can't even give $5 to help out many people in need. America's tragedy on Sept 11 pales in comparison. I guess "stingy" doesn't fall far from the tree
 
I think its really useless to squabble over how much people or countries donate. Because in other people's minds it will usually always fall short.
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
THE LINK


Found it funny that France has donated $175,000 while much smaller countries have donated a lot more.

I found it funny that the EU has donated $57 million and that France is the biggest contributor to the EU budget after Germany or were you thinking that the EU money grows on trees?

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
America is so stingy. Only 45 million and 12 military vessals.



NORWAY: Preliminary contribution of 50 million Norwegian crowns ($10.5 million) for emergency relief, including basic necessities, medicines, food, clean water and shelter.

JAPAN: Pledged $US30 million ($38.6 million) in aid, sent three navy vessels to Thailand to help rescue survivors.

DENMARK: Increased aid pledge by maximum 85 million Danish crowns ($20.05 million) after spending almost all initial 10 million crowns pledged. Aid will cover immediate needs - medical supplies, food, water, shelter - and reconstruction.

BRITAIN: Pledged STG15 million ($37.2 million) to the devastated area and has sent plastic sheets and tents worth STG250,000 ($620,350) to Sri Lanka. Contributing STG370,000 ($918,110) to EU aid and $US100,000 ($128,500) to World Health Organisation.

We barely doubled what denmark gave, and only quadrupled norway, and matched england and japan, countries with about 1/30th, 1/30th, 1/5th, and 2/5th's of our population and economic resources, respectively.

:thumbsup: to norway and denmark.
 
Keep in mind we are also having to fund the war in Iraq.....now regardless of your views of the war, etc etc...the financial burden is still there.

So honestly $35-40million right up front, including a Navy Task Force, isnt too shabby of a donation all things being equal.

Also, the United States has traditionally funded more charitable work through private organizations than official government funding.
 
cash donations and getting the aid to the right places are two different things

The US is going to spend a lot of money on having ships and planes deliver aid to the affected region that isn't going to get reported in someone's aid calculations. Countries can give all the cash they want, but how is the aid going to get to the right place?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
yeah france is doing pretty crappy there, my guess they are talking right now what more to do... hoping

I'm expecialy proud of denmark there


I have little that they are donated excess wine😀.
 
Originally posted by: alent1234
cash donations and getting the aid to the right places are two different things

The US is going to spend a lot of money on having ships and planes deliver aid to the affected region that isn't going to get reported in someone's aid calculations. Countries can give all the cash they want, but how is the aid going to get to the right place?

Exactly....many people ignore the contributions of the US's "heavy lift" capability....and that all takes money to operate.
 
that is maybe one small aircraft's worth of supplies

there are probably millions that need help and that means a lot of food and water that need to be supplied on a daily basis. I bet some US military units are going to be doing the real work of supplying these essentials as well as things like medical supplies and drugs.
 
Originally posted by: alent1234
that is maybe one small aircraft's worth of supplies

there are probably millions that need help and that means a lot of food and water that need to be supplied on a daily basis. I bet some US military units are going to be doing the real work of supplying these essentials as well as things like medical supplies and drugs.


France has announced that they will provide 15 million euro ($20 million) + logistical help (medical units)
that is money on top of the EU contribution that is going from 20 to 30 million euro ($40 million)

total official EU and EU countries funding for the tsunami victims is over $80 million at the moment

Le Monde
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
America is so stingy. Only 45 million and 12 military vessals.

It's only 35 million in US dollars, and 20 of those millions is in loans. Stingy indeed.

Lets see what they'll do with the 12 ships they are sending to the region.
 
That list is absolutely incorrect about the US activity so far. I know for a fact that the U.S. has sent more than 12 naval vessels as part of its military aid. In fact, open press reporting mentioned C-130s and other aircraft (Navy P-3s) that had arrived in the region. I haven't been working lately so I am not completely up to date on what has been going. III MEF Marines are part of the relief force, unknown numbers.

We just bought a case of water for tsunami victims here at the Commissary, and I would bet money that it's being taken there on one of our planes. Pararescuemen from this base are probably there or enroute as well.

With those forces aiding in the effort, the overall total from the US will likely be well in excess of $100 million. You can pledge all the supplies you want, but if you don't get them there or distribute them, they do absolutely nothing except look good on paper.
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: alent1234
that is maybe one small aircraft's worth of supplies

there are probably millions that need help and that means a lot of food and water that need to be supplied on a daily basis. I bet some US military units are going to be doing the real work of supplying these essentials as well as things like medical supplies and drugs.


France has announced that they will provide 15 million euro ($20 million) + logistical help (medical units)
that is money on top of the EU contribution that is going from 20 to 30 million euro ($40 million)

total official EU and EU countries funding for the tsunami victims is over $80 million at the moment

Le Monde



let's see how much help france can provide because they have a tiny fraction of the USA's global airlift capacity. The medical units have to get there somehow and they have to be resupplied.
 
I like how the US is getting bashed already for their contribution. In my opinion, people should be proud of whatever we gave. I'm sure we'll continue to offer assistance and we'll have several people from our country over there working to clean the place up.

Instead, we should be complaining about the true diseases of the world, France and Germany. 😉
 
There may be US planes involved, but the 12 vessels number is correct...

Pledging money and actually delivering money are two different things

Remember Bush's 5 Billion dollar pledge for the Africa "project millenium", or whatever it was to be called? Not a nickel has actually been spent.

I would think that the US would continue to be very supportive of the countries in need from this disaster, so I'm going to hold off on any criticism until we see what actually gets done.

I think the comparison to 9/11 is a vaild one...people all over the country sent millions and millions of dollars to charitable organizations, relief funds for the families, etc, etc.......the loss of life in this disaster is the equivalent of nearly 40 9/11 attacks..

Anyone know what the largest loss of life is from a single natural disaster in modern times? This ever-growing toll, which will likely pass 120,000 today, is staggering.
 
Originally posted by: alent1234
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: alent1234
that is maybe one small aircraft's worth of supplies

there are probably millions that need help and that means a lot of food and water that need to be supplied on a daily basis. I bet some US military units are going to be doing the real work of supplying these essentials as well as things like medical supplies and drugs.


France has announced that they will provide 15 million euro ($20 million) + logistical help (medical units)
that is money on top of the EU contribution that is going from 20 to 30 million euro ($40 million)

total official EU and EU countries funding for the tsunami victims is over $80 million at the moment

Le Monde



let's see how much help france can provide because they have a tiny fraction of the USA's global airlift capacity. The medical units have to get there somehow and they have to be resupplied.


why are you downplaying the efforts from other countries then the USA???
you don't see me going around ridiculing the efforts from the USA?

I just posted this information because there are people ridiculing non-US countries and I'm just posting facts about the monetary aid from countries like France

 
Anyone know what the largest loss of life is from a single natural disaster in modern times? This ever-growing toll, which will likely pass 120,000 today, is staggering.

earthquake in the 70's (1976?) in China
at least 250,000 people were killed but some reports say that up to 750,000 Chinese lost their lives
 
For bleeding heart, US bashers who can't find alternatives to occupy their time except snivel and bitch about Uncle Sam, the AP (via the San Diego Union Tribune) has this:

WASHINGTON ? The United States is focusing on providing clean water and basic sanitation in South Asian areas hit by an earthquake and tsunamis, to try to prevent illness and more deaths among survivors.

[...]

President Bush assembled a four-nation coalition to organize humanitarian relief, and promised that the United States would help bankroll long-term rebuilding.

[...]

Marc Grossman, undersecretary of state, will lead a U.S. task force to coordinate the American response and urge other nations to assist in relief efforts. He participated in a 40-minute conference call Wednesday night with senior Japanese, Australian and Indian officials.

State Department spokesman Noel Clay said they agreed to try to avoid duplicating efforts, by each other and the United Nations, to help the victims.

[...]

From airlifts of rice and water purifiers to the deployment of Marine humanitarian assistance teams and warships, the United States marshaled resources across the globe to augment its initial $35 million aid package and make sure the hardest hit locations got the short-term help they requested.

Bush said he phoned the leaders of stricken countries to solicit specific needs and assure them the initial aid package "is only the beginning of our help." He also laid the foundation for a long-term international recovery plan by forming the coalition with Japan, Australia and India and inviting other nations to join.

Both the president and officials in Washington touted the breadth of U.S. aid, ticking off figures they hoped would rebut comments by a U.N. official and others suggesting that the United States had been stingy or slow to react. . . . .
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
America is so stingy. Only 45 million and 12 military vessals.


really? how much is 9 ships each pumping and filtering 90,000 gallons a day worth? to people who just lost clean water supplies and as such are at grave risk of desease? 😛

sick of the whining. we are paying for the iraq war, and bushes stupid policies. whats europes escuse?
 
The Swedish government has just announced that Sweden is donating $70 million, and we have a population of 9 million... So the US and some other countries could do a lot better.
 
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