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PJABBER

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Democrats don't control congress... they are at least 10 short of that.. even if you consider the hick "democrats" to be democrats, you still don't have complete control because Lieberman is "independent"... notice how he single handedly has held up reform?

Being disingenuous only makes you look like a fool.

With NY-23 giving up a 150 year old conservative position, the primaries will be great fun to watch.

A mid-level government executive was so frustrated at being passed over for promotion year after year, that, in frustration, he went to a brain-transplant center in the hope of raising his I.Q. 20 points.

After a battery of physical and psychological tests, he was told by the center's director that he was an acceptable candidate.

"That's great!" the executive said. "But I understand that this procedure can be really expensive."

"Yes, sir, it can, and as we don't have universal health care yet you will have to use your personal insurance," the director replied. "An ounce of accountant's brain for example, costs one thousand dollars; an ounce of an economist's brain costs ten thousand; an ounce of a corporate president's is forty-five thousand. An ounce of a Democrat's brain is seventy-five thousand dollars."

"Seventy-five thousand dollars for an ounce of a Democrat's brain? Why on earth is that?"

"Do you have any idea," the director asked, "how many Democrats we would have to harvest?"
 
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A mid-level government executive was so frustrated at being passed over for promotion year after year, that, in frustration, he went to a brain-transplant center in the hope of raising his I.Q. 20 points.

After a battery of physical and psychological tests, he was told by the center's director that he was an acceptable candidate.

"That's great!" the executive said. "But I understand that this procedure can be really expensive."

"Yes, sir, it can, and as we don't have universal health care yet you will have to use your personal insurance," the director replied. "An ounce of accountant's brain for example, costs one thousand dollars; an ounce of an economist's brain costs ten thousand; an ounce of a corporate president's is forty-five thousand. An ounce of a Democrat's brain is seventy-five thousand dollars."

"Seventy-five thousand dollars for an ounce of a Democrat's brain? Why on earth is that?"

"Do you have any idea," the director asked, "how many Democrats we would have to harvest?"
I luled :)
 

shadow9d9

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A mid-level government executive was so frustrated at being passed over for promotion year after year, that, in frustration, he went to a brain-transplant center in the hope of raising his I.Q. 20 points.

After a battery of physical and psychological tests, he was told by the center's director that he was an acceptable candidate.

"That's great!" the executive said. "But I understand that this procedure can be really expensive."

"Yes, sir, it can, and as we don't have universal health care yet you will have to use your personal insurance," the director replied. "An ounce of accountant's brain for example, costs one thousand dollars; an ounce of an economist's brain costs ten thousand; an ounce of a corporate president's is forty-five thousand. An ounce of a Democrat's brain is seventy-five thousand dollars."

"Seventy-five thousand dollars for an ounce of a Democrat's brain? Why on earth is that?"

"Do you have any idea," the director asked, "how many Democrats we would have to harvest?"


Being a liar is cool. Here is a diversion.

Could have been worse.. could have been more nutjob blog spam.
 

PJABBER

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Being a liar is cool. Here is a diversion.

Could have been worse.. could have been more nutjob blog spam.

As I can't understand what it it is you are trying to say, I will deduce you are looking for a laugh!

Question - What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
Answer - A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

Question - Who was the first liberal Democrat?
Answer - Christopher Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going, got there not knowing where he was, left not knowing where he'd been and did it all on borrowed money.

Question - How many Liberal Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?
Answer - None. "Well it's not really a question of should we change it or should we not change the lightbulb, but more a question of...(blah blah waffle)"

Question: How much does a Liberal cost?
Answer: Nothing, Liberals have no values.

Q: What's the difference between Elvis and a smart Liberal?
A: Elvis has been sighted.

Q: What's the difference between God and a Democrat?
A: God knows He's not a Democrat.

YOU MIGHT BE A DEMOCRAT IF...

* You think those stupid ribbons actually accomplish something.

* You think a mother has a right to kill an innocent 5 month fetus because her pregnancy would interfere with her career, but feel we shouldn't put to death the man who raped and murdered 14 women.

* You honestly feel that alcoholics deserve social security disability benefits.

* You think the guy who drops out of high school and builds your jeep deserves more money than the doctor who went to college for 10 years and saves your kids life.

* You sang along to "Give Peace A Chance" after the WTC attacks.

* You've filed for unemployment within two weeks of getting out of high school.

* You own something that says, "Kerry for President," and still display it.

* You've tried to argue in favor of anything based on, "Well, they're gonna do it anyway so..."

* You've ever said, "We really should call the ACLU about this."

* You ever based an argument on the phrase, "But they can afford a tax hike because..."

* You've ever argued that with just one more year of welfare that person will turn it around and get off drugs.

* You keep count of how many people you know in each racial or ethnic category.

* You believe our government must do it because everyone in Europe does.

* After looking at your pay stub you can still say, "America is undertaxed."
 

Pens1566

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I'd be more worried about republican primaries where tea-baggers will be going up against gop moderates. NY23 will probably repeat itself elsewhere.
 

Carmen813

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I liked those PJABBER, here are some I found :)

Q: How many Republicans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: None, they only screw the poor.

Q: How many members of the Bush Administration does it take to screw in a
light bulb?
A: Ten...
1. One to deny that a light bulb needs to be changed
2. One to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs
to be changed
3. One to blame Clinton for burning out the light bulb
4. One to tell the nations of the world that they are either "for"
changing the light bulb or "for" darkness
5. One to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton for the
new light bulb
6. One to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing
on a step ladder under the banner: "Light Bulb Change Accomplished"
7. One administration insider to resign and write a book documenting
in detail how Bush was literally in the dark
8. One to viciously smear #7
9. One surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush
has had a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along
10. One to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing
a light bulb and screwing the country.

The elephant is the perfect symbol for Republicans: they never forget, lead
each other around by the tail, and think everyone should work for peanuts.

The Republican National Committee has announced it's changing the emblem of
the Republican Party - from an elephant to a condom. The Republican National
Chairman explained that the condom more clearly reflects the Party's current
stance... owing to the fact that a condom accepts inflation, halts
production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and
gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed. Please make
certain your Republican friends make the appropriate changes on any of their
campaign literature.

Republicans campaign about how government can't work, then get elected and prove it.

Much has already been published about the sex life of former President Clinton.
However, little has been reported on the sexual practices of the current
Commander-in-Chief. It has recently been learned that the President and Mrs.
Bush only do it with Laura Bush on top since George W. Bush can only fuck up.

And finally...

"The Rules of Conservative Correctness"

1) if anyone disagrees with you, they are a "Democrat."

2) if anyone argues with you, they are a "Liberal."

3) if they argue with you and actually present data (formerly known as
"debating"), shrug it off as "propaganda from the Liberal Media."

4) if you cannot rebut the argument pick on details such as
misspellings, improper punctuation or taglines.

5) If your opponent has an unrefutable argument, change the subject.

6) if your opponent consistently overturns your "correct" stories (anything
told by Rush Limbaugh), use ad hominem attacks.

7) anyone who puts life over profits is a "tree hugger."

8) anyone who refutes or debates "correct" science (Creationism, Ecological
Stability) is a "sky-is-falling" reactionary.

9) anyone who opposes the melding of religion and government is one of the
"liberals" who helped create the rampant immorality today.

10) any federal program created by a Democrat, or that "looks" Democratic is
"socialistic."

11) dismantling programs and restrictions on spending then sending the money
to states as a "block grant" is better than having a standardized Federal
program with rules.

12) giving tax money to People is "enslaving them," giving tax money to
Corporations is "making jobs."

13) anything that does not turn a profit for private corporations is "an
elitist" operation.

14) always take everything personally.

15) whatever your weakness is, blame it on your opponent.

16) the more narrow and prejudiced your sources, the more you project that
onto your opponent.

17) when your opponent attacks a Republican/conservative President's
policies, blame them on a Democratic Congress (or vice versa).

18) when quoting your opponent, edit his words to conform to "correctness."

19) anyone who reads anything beyond "the Limbaugh Letter" is an "ivory
tower intellectual."

20) when all else fails, lie.

"21 Rules For Being A Good Republican"

1) You have to believe that the nation's 8-year unprecedented prosperity was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but that today's gas prices
are all Obama's fault.

2) You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all
on their own.

3) You have to be against government programs, but expect your Social
Security checks on time.

4) You have to believe that government should stay out of people's lives, yet
you want government to regulate only opposite-gender marriages, what a woman
does with her uterus, and what your official language should be.

5) You have to believe that pollution is OK so long as it makes a profit.

6) You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray to
Allah or Buddha or the Goddess.

7) You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.

8) You have to believe that a woman cannot be trusted with decisions about
her own body, but that large multi-national corporations should have no
regulation or interference whatsoever.

9) You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares your
hatred of AIDS victims, homosexuals, and Barack and Michelle Obama.

10) You have to believe that society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you wouldn't vote for a
black candidate for president.

11) You have to believe that it was great to allow Ken Starr to spend $90
million dollars to attack Clinton because no other U.S. presidents have been
unfaithful to their wives.

12) You have to believe that a waiting period for purchasing a handgun is bad
because quick access to a new firearm is an important concern for all
Americans.

13) You have to believe it is wise to keep condoms out of schools, because we
all know if teenagers don't have condoms they won't have sex.

14) You have to believe that the ACLU is bad because they defend the
Constitution, while the NRA is good because they defend the Constitution.

15) You have to believe that socialism hasn't worked anywhere, and that
Europe doesn't exist.

16) You have to believe the AIDS virus is not important enough to deserve
federal funding proportionate to the resulting death rate and that the public
doesn't need to be educated about it, because if we ignore it, it will go away.

17) You have to believe that biology teachers are corrupting the morals of
6th graders if they teach them the basics of human sexuality, but the Bible,
which is full of sex and violence, is good reading.

18) You have to believe that Chinese communist missiles have killed more
Americans than handguns, alcohol, and tobacco.

19) You have to believe that even though governments have supported the arts
for 5000 years and that most of the great works of Renaissance art were paid
for by governments, our government should shun any such support. After all,
the rich can afford to buy their own and the poor don't need any.

20) You have to believe that the lumber from the last one percent of old
growth U.S. forests is well worth the destruction of those forests and the
extinction of the several species of plants and animals in them because it
allows logging companies to add to their profit margin.

21) You have to believe that we should forgive and pray for Newt Gingrich,
Henry Hyde, and Bob Livingston for their marital infidelities, but that
bastard Clinton should have been impeached.
 
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PJABBER

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I liked those PJABBER, here are some I found :) And finally...

Thanks for those, more than a few were funny!

As I am not a Republican, I can certainly see bringing back some of those jokes in 2010!
 
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Fern

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Democrats don't control congress... they are at least 10 short of that.. even if you consider the hick "democrats" to be democrats, you still don't have complete control because Lieberman is "independent"... notice how he single handedly has held up reform?

Being disingenuous only makes you look like a fool.

With NY-23 giving up a 150 year old conservative position, the primaries will be great fun to watch.

Jeebus, talk about being "disengenuous".

Lieberman caucuses with Democratic party in the Senate. So the Dems have 60 members in Senate, any other assertion is getting so deep inot semantics it's absurd. Lieberman's always been a Dem, we all know he has the "independant" label now only as a result of his state's politics and his effort to get re-elected.

BTW: Bernie Sanders is also an independant who caucuses with the Dems.

Fern
 
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werepossum

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Jeebus, talk about being "disengenuous".

Lieberman caucuses with Democratic party in the Senate. So the Dems have 60 members in Senate, any other assertion is getting so deep inot semantics it's absurd. Lieberman's always been a Dem, we all know he has the "independant" label now only as a result of his state's politics and his effort to get re-elected.

BTW: Bernie Sanders is also an independant who caucuses with the Dems.

Fern

Agreed. Democrats have everything they need to pass any legislation they desire - except the will to face the voters afterward.

Still, I suspect it's not going to be as bad for Democrats in 2010 as many people now believe. Democrats have much more money, have access to more deep pockets, will have a fully funded ACORN, will probably have a newly legalized immigrant population ready to vote to receive free money, still have most of the stimulus money to buy votes and create temporary jobs, can pass other jobs programs at will to improve employment over the short term, and still own the media except for Fox News and talk radio and a few newspapers' editorial pages, meaning they control the news most people see. Plus once we know what is going to happen with tax reform, health care reform, and carbon taxes and regulations, at least some companies will be winners and probably begin to hire by November 2010. Overall I'd say the Democrats will be no worse than even. Yes, they have an ongoing battle between the far left and the very far left, but the 'Pubbies have the same battle on the right.
 

Ausm

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Agreed. Democrats have everything they need to pass any legislation they desire - except the will to face the voters afterward.

Still, I suspect it's not going to be as bad for Democrats in 2010 as many people now believe. Democrats have much more money, have access to more deep pockets, will have a fully funded ACORN, will probably have a newly legalized immigrant population ready to vote to receive free money, still have most of the stimulus money to buy votes and create temporary jobs, can pass other jobs programs at will to improve employment over the short term, and still own the media except for Fox News and talk radio and a few newspapers' editorial pages, meaning they control the news most people see. Plus once we know what is going to happen with tax reform, health care reform, and carbon taxes and regulations, at least some companies will be winners and probably begin to hire by November 2010. Overall I'd say the Democrats will be no worse than even. Yes, they have an ongoing battle between the far left and the very far left, but the 'Pubbies have the same battle on the right.

You should seek mental help you have an unusual obsession with ACORN seemingly more then the run of the mill rightwing hardliner.
 

werepossum

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You should seek mental help you have an unusual obsession with ACORN seemingly more then the run of the mill rightwing hardliner.

Well, since I am paying them with my taxes, you're damned straight. Most criminal organizations I'm not forced to fund.

I should point out that I'm pro-gay marriage, pro-environment (to the point of support the delta smelt over the farmers), anti-government control over Internet content, and pro-Glass-Steagall, to name a few positions generally accepted as left wing. But I'll happily accept the title of rightwing hardliner, since I know that to you that means anyone who doesn't accept the entire liberal agenda.
 

PJABBER

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The Daley machine starts to worry about Democrat overreach and the inevitable electoral consequences. Expect more in this vein as the "progressive" radical wing of the Democrat Party fights to retain its overwhelming Party dominance in the reconciliation debate between the House and the Senate over health insurance "reform."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/23/AR2009122302439_pf.html

Keep the Big Tent big

By William M. Daley
Thursday, December 24, 2009; A15
The Washington Post

(The writer was secretary of commerce in the Clinton administration and chairman of Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign.)

The announcement by Alabama Rep. Parker Griffith that he is switching to the Republican Party is just the latest warning sign that the Democratic Party -- my lifelong political home -- has a critical decision to make: Either we plot a more moderate, centrist course or risk electoral disaster not just in the upcoming midterms but in many elections to come.

Rep. Griffith's decision makes him the fifth centrist Democrat to either switch parties or announce plans to retire rather than stand for reelection in 2010. These announcements are a sharp reversal from the progress the Democratic Party made starting in 2006 and continuing in 2008, when it reestablished itself as the nation's majority party for the first time in more than a decade. That success happened for one major reason: Democrats made inroads in geographies and constituencies that had trended Republican since the 1960s. In these two elections, a majority of independents and a sizable number of moderate Republicans joined the traditional Democratic base to sweep Democrats to commanding majorities in Congress and to bring Barack Obama to the White House.

These independents and Republicans supported Democrats based on a message indicating that the party would be a true Big Tent -- that we would welcome a diversity of views even on tough issues such as abortion, gun rights and the role of government in the economy.

This call was answered not just by voters but by a surge of smart, talented candidates who came forward to run and win under the Democratic banner in districts dominated by Republicans for a generation. These centrists swelled the party's ranks in Congress and contributed to Obama's victories in states such as Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado and other Republican bastions.

But now they face a grim political fate. On the one hand, centrist Democrats are being vilified by left-wing bloggers, pundits and partisan news outlets for not being sufficiently liberal, "true" Democrats. On the other, Republicans are pounding them for their association with a party that seems to be advancing an agenda far to the left of most voters.

The political dangers of this situation could not be clearer.

Witness the losses in New Jersey and Virginia in this year's off-year elections. In those gubernatorial contests, the margin of victory was provided to Republicans by independents -- many of whom had voted for Obama. Just one year later, they had crossed back to the Republicans by 2-to-1 margins.

Witness the drumbeat of ominous poll results. Obama's approval rating has fallen below 49 percent overall and is even lower -- 41 percent -- among independents. On the question of which party is best suited to manage the economy, there has been a 30-point swing toward Republicans since November 2008, according to Ipsos. Gallup's generic congressional ballot shows Republicans leading Democrats. There is not a hint of silver lining in these numbers. They are the quantitative expression of the swing bloc of American politics slipping away.

And, of course, witness the loss of Rep. Griffith and his fellow moderate Democrats who will retire. They are perhaps the truest canaries in the coal mine.

Despite this raft of bad news, Democrats are not doomed to return to the wilderness. The question is whether the party is prepared to listen carefully to what the American public is saying. Voters are not re-embracing conservative ideology, nor are they falling back in love with the Republican brand. If anything, the Democrats' salvation may lie in the fact that Republicans seem even more hell-bent on allowing their radical wing to drag the party away from the center.

All that is required for the Democratic Party to recover its political footing is to acknowledge that the agenda of the party's most liberal supporters has not won the support of a majority of Americans -- and, based on that recognition, to steer a more moderate course on the key issues of the day, from health care to the economy to the environment to Afghanistan.

For liberals to accept that inescapable reality is not to concede permanent defeat. Rather, let them take it as a sign that they must continue the hard work of slowly and steadily persuading their fellow citizens to embrace their perspective. In the meantime, liberals -- and, indeed, all of us -- should have the humility to recognize that there is no monopoly on good ideas, as well as the long-term perspective to know that intraparty warfare will only relegate the Democrats to minority status, which would be disastrous for the very constituents they seek to represent.

The party's moment of choosing is drawing close. While it may be too late to avoid some losses in 2010, it is not too late to avoid the kind of rout that redraws the political map. The leaders of the Democratic Party need to move back toward the center -- and in doing so, set the stage for the many years' worth of leadership necessary to produce the sort of pragmatic change the American people actually want.
 

CPA

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Thanks for those, more than a few were funny!

As I am not a Republican, I can certainly see bringing back some of those jokes in 2010!


I am a Repub and I still found many of them funny.
 

PJABBER

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Oh, in case you think Democrat Senators have the least bit worry about overreach, check out this article.

I guess we will see how these elected representatives are greeted over the Christmas holiday.

Cheer or jeer?

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1209/Dems_not_worried_about_postvote_backlash_at_home.html

Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

POLITICO
December 24, 2009

Democrats today have repeatedly expressed a confidence that they won't face a backlash for their votes when they return home for the holidays, which would stand in marked contrast to the August recess.

"This is a happy day. (Senate Republican Leader) Mitch McConnell said on the floor that we're going to go home and hear our constituents rail against this bill. I don't believe that. I believe that the negativity that Leader McConnell and others have continually displayed on the floor has peaked, and now when people learn what's actually in the bill—and all the good it does—it is going to become more and more popular because it is good for America, good for the American people, and a true symbol of what we can do if we all pull together," said Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer.

On the floor before the vote, Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "We're going to hear an earful, but it's going to be an earful of wonderment and happiness that people waited for for a long time."
 

boomerang

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Oh, in case you think Democrat Senators have the least bit worry about overreach, check out this article. I guess we will see how these elected representatives are greeted over the Christmas holiday. Cheer or jeer? http://www.politico.com/livepulse/12...h_at_home.html Quote: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home POLITICO December 24, 2009 Democrats today have repeatedly expressed a confidence that they won't face a backlash for their votes when they return home for the holidays, which would stand in marked contrast to the August recess. "This is a happy day. (Senate Republican Leader) Mitch McConnell said on the floor that we're going to go home and hear our constituents rail against this bill. I don't believe that. I believe that the negativity that Leader McConnell and others have continually displayed on the floor has peaked, and now when people learn what's actually in the bill—and all the good it does—it is going to become more and more popular because it is good for America, good for the American people, and a true symbol of what we can do if we all pull together," said Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer. On the floor before the vote, Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "We're going to hear an earful, but it's going to be an earful of wonderment and happiness that people waited for for a long time."
I hope Schumer can control his temper on the flight home.
 

PJABBER

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I am a Repub and I still found many of them funny.

I came across this little gem and had to chuckle -

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/22/twas-the-night-before-christmas/

Anderson Cooper 360
December 22, 2009

'Twas the night before Christmas

Matt Latimer

Twas the night before Christmas and all through the Congress,
Every creature was frantic,
from insurers to lobbyists.

While Americans worried about higher taxes and spending,
The liberals, they promised
big government unending.

From Mama Nancy in one chamber to
Papa Harry in the other,
A chorus rang out
And Ben Nelson was smothered.

"Let bureaucrats run health care,"
the leaders urged with a grin.
"Don't worry about details,
Obama just needs a win."

On Franken! On Landrieu!
On Lincoln and Schumer!
Dismiss all the facts,
Deny every rumor.

Forget about burdens on business.
Ignore the red tape.
We must pass a bill,
any size, any shape.

More decisions by Washington
The masses, they need it.
So 60 Dems voted yes
Most didn't bother to read it.

In despair and their kerchiefs
McConnell and Boehner then slumbered.
They had tried to improve things but were vastly outnumbered

With vict'ry in sight
Democrats smiled with glee
But so did some Republicans, only theirs you couldn't see.

For conservatives knew well
The disaster in sight.
In the bill they saw fortune,
A chance to make all things right.

Soon a thought bubbled forth bringing fresh Christmas cheer.
"Today bureaucrats won.
But they won't come next year."

Editor's Note: Matthew Latimer is a former speechwriter to George W. Bush, defense secretaries Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates, and GOP Sens. Jon Kyl (Ariz.) and Mitch McConnell (Ky.), the minority leader. He was one of George W. Bush's chief speechwriters and in March 2007 was appointed by George W. Bush as Special Assistant to the President for Speechwriting. He is the author of Speech-less: Tales of a White House Survivor (2009)
 

Bowfinger

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[ ... ]
And finally...

"The Rules of Conservative Correctness"

1) if anyone disagrees with you, they are a "Democrat."

2) if anyone argues with you, they are a "Liberal."

3) if they argue with you and actually present data (formerly known as
"debating"), shrug it off as "propaganda from the Liberal Media."

4) if you cannot rebut the argument pick on details such as
misspellings, improper punctuation or taglines.

5) If your opponent has an unrefutable argument, change the subject.

6) if your opponent consistently overturns your "correct" stories (anything
told by Rush Limbaugh), use ad hominem attacks.

7) anyone who puts life over profits is a "tree hugger."

8) anyone who refutes or debates "correct" science (Creationism, Ecological Stability) is a "sky-is-falling" reactionary.

9) anyone who opposes the melding of religion and government is one of the "liberals" who helped create the rampant immorality today.

10) any federal program created by a Democrat, or that "looks" Democratic is "socialistic."

11) dismantling programs and restrictions on spending then sending the money to states as a "block grant" is better than having a standardized Federal program with rules.

12) giving tax money to People is "enslaving them," giving tax money to
Corporations is "making jobs."

13) anything that does not turn a profit for private corporations is "an
elitist" operation.

14) always take everything personally.

15) whatever your weakness is, blame it on your opponent.

16) the more narrow and prejudiced your sources, the more you project that onto your opponent.

17) when your opponent attacks a Republican/conservative President's
policies, blame them on a Democratic Congress (or vice versa).

18) when quoting your opponent, edit his words to conform to "correctness."

19) anyone who reads anything beyond "the Limbaugh Letter" is an "ivory
tower intellectual."

20) when all else fails, lie.

"21 Rules For Being A Good Republican"

1) You have to believe that the nation's 8-year unprecedented prosperity was due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but that today's gas prices are all Obama's fault.

2) You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all
on their own.

3) You have to be against government programs, but expect your Social
Security checks on time.

4) You have to believe that government should stay out of people's lives, yet you want government to regulate only opposite-gender marriages, what a woman does with her uterus, and what your official language should be.

5) You have to believe that pollution is OK so long as it makes a profit.

6) You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray to
Allah or Buddha or the Goddess.

7) You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.

8) You have to believe that a woman cannot be trusted with decisions about her own body, but that large multi-national corporations should have no regulation or interference whatsoever.

9) You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares your
hatred of AIDS victims, homosexuals, and Barack and Michelle Obama.

10) You have to believe that society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you wouldn't vote for a
black candidate for president.

11) You have to believe that it was great to allow Ken Starr to spend $90
million dollars to attack Clinton because no other U.S. presidents have been unfaithful to their wives.

12) You have to believe that a waiting period for purchasing a handgun is bad because quick access to a new firearm is an important concern for all
Americans.

13) You have to believe it is wise to keep condoms out of schools, because we all know if teenagers don't have condoms they won't have sex.

14) You have to believe that the ACLU is bad because they defend the
Constitution, while the NRA is good because they defend the Constitution.

15) You have to believe that socialism hasn't worked anywhere, and that
Europe doesn't exist.

16) You have to believe the AIDS virus is not important enough to deserve
federal funding proportionate to the resulting death rate and that the public doesn't need to be educated about it, because if we ignore it, it will go away.

17) You have to believe that biology teachers are corrupting the morals of
6th graders if they teach them the basics of human sexuality, but the Bible, which is full of sex and violence, is good reading.

18) You have to believe that Chinese communist missiles have killed more
Americans than handguns, alcohol, and tobacco.

19) You have to believe that even though governments have supported the arts for 5000 years and that most of the great works of Renaissance art were paid for by governments, our government should shun any such support. After all, the rich can afford to buy their own and the poor don't need any.

20) You have to believe that the lumber from the last one percent of old
growth U.S. forests is well worth the destruction of those forests and the
extinction of the several species of plants and animals in them because it
allows logging companies to add to their profit margin.

21) You have to believe that we should forgive and pray for Newt Gingrich,
Henry Hyde, and Bob Livingston for their marital infidelities, but that
bastard Clinton should have been impeached.

:D

Those are great ... and more often than not, perfectly on target. I wonder if we could get them stickied. It would save so much time -- and bandwidth -- when rebutting the PJABBERs' endless RNC op-eds and wing-nut blog rambling. "Let's see. This is a great #3, #10, and #18, with the usual #2 and #15 sprinkled in."
 

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It is now 2010.

Massachusetts, of all places, is in play. The final Democrat (Republicans are most definitely not invited) debate on the government takeover of health insurance is being conducted behind locked, sealed and closed doors (CSPAN is most definitely not invited.) A number of Democrat stalwarths in the Senate and the House have announced they must leave the playing field now or real soon now or face resounding defeat in November.

Why is this happening just one year after an overwhelming Democrat victory that ensconsed their most liberal/progressive Senator into the Presidency of the United States?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/01/15/one_year_out_the_fall_99907.html

January 15, 2010

The Fall of Obama

By Charles Krauthammer

WASHINGTON -- What went wrong? A year ago, he was king of the world. Now President Obama's approval rating, according to CBS, has dropped to 46 percent -- and his disapproval rating is the highest ever recorded by Gallup at the beginning of an (elected) president's second year.

A year ago, he was leader of a liberal ascendancy that would last 40 years (James Carville). A year ago, conservatism was dead (Sam Tanenhaus). Now the race to fill Ted Kennedy's Senate seat in bluest of blue Massachusetts is surprisingly close, with a virtually unknown state senator bursting on the scene by turning the election into a mini-referendum on Obama and his agenda, most particularly health care reform.

A year ago, Obama was the most charismatic politician on earth. Today the thrill is gone, the doubts growing -- even among erstwhile believers.

Liberals try to attribute Obama's political decline to matters of style. He's too cool, detached, uninvolved. He's not tough, angry or aggressive enough with opponents. He's contracted out too much of his agenda to Congress.

These stylistic and tactical complaints may be true, but they miss the major point: The reason for today's vast discontent, presaged by spontaneous national Tea Party opposition, is not that Obama is too cool or compliant but that he's too left.

It's not about style; it's about substance. About which Obama has been admirably candid. This out-of-nowhere, least-known of presidents dropped the veil most dramatically in the single most important political event of 2009, his Feb. 24 first address to Congress. With remarkable political honesty and courage, Obama unveiled the most radical (in American terms) ideological agenda since the New Deal: the fundamental restructuring of three pillars of American society -- health care, education and energy.

Then began the descent -- when, more amazingly still, Obama devoted himself to turning these statist visions into legislative reality. First energy, with cap-and-trade, an unprecedented federal intrusion into American industry and commerce. It got through the House, with its Democratic majority and Supreme Soviet-style rules. But it will never get out of the Senate.

Then, the keystone: a health care revolution in which the federal government will regulate in crushing detail one-sixth of the U.S. economy. By essentially abolishing medical underwriting (actuarially based risk assessment) and replacing it with government fiat, Obamacare turns the health insurance companies into utilities, their every significant move dictated by government regulators. The public option was a sideshow. As many on the right have long been arguing, and as the more astute on the left (such as The New Yorker's James Surowiecki) understand, Obamacare is government health care by proxy, single-payer through a facade of nominally "private" insurers.

At first, health care reform was sustained politically by Obama's own popularity. But then gravity took hold, and Obamacare's profound unpopularity dragged him down with it. After 29 speeches and a fortune in squandered political capital, it still will not sell.

The health care drive is the most important reason Obama has sunk to 46 percent. But this reflects something larger. In the end, what matters is not the persona but the agenda. In a country where politics is fought between the 40-yard lines, Obama has insisted on pushing hard for the 30. And the American people -- disorganized and unled but nonetheless agitated and mobilized -- have put up a stout defense somewhere just left of midfield.

Ideas matter. Legislative proposals matter. Slick campaigns and dazzling speeches can work for a while, but the magic always wears off.

It's inherently risky for any charismatic politician to legislate. To act is to choose and to choose is to disappoint the expectations of many who had poured their hopes into the empty vessel -- of which candidate Obama was the greatest representative in recent American political history.

Obama did not just act, however. He acted ideologically. To his credit, Obama didn't just come to Washington to be someone. Like Reagan, he came to Washington to do something -- to introduce a powerful social democratic stream into America's deeply and historically individualist polity.

Perhaps Obama thought he'd been sent to the White House to do just that. If so, he vastly over-read his mandate. His own electoral success -- twinned with handy victories and large majorities in both houses of Congress -- was a referendum on his predecessor's governance and the post-Lehman financial collapse. It was not an endorsement of European-style social democracy.

Hence the resistance. Hence the fall. The system may not always work, but it does take its revenge.
 
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While the voting has not even started yet in Massachusetts, the daggers have come out.

Brown's victory over Coakley is not assured. After all, Massachusetts is overwhelmingly a Democrat state. Win, or lose, however, it has become apparent that Democrat Party candidates are being soundly rejected.

And the blame for this just can't be because the positions that Party has taken are wrong. Can it?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31637.html



Finger-pointing begins for Dems
By: Manu Raju and Jonathan Martin and John Bresnahan
January 19, 2010 12:29 AM EST

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — As voters head to the polls in Massachusetts, nervous Democrats have already begun to blame one another for putting at risk the Senate seat Ted Kennedy held for more than 40 years.

Many angry Democrats blame their candidate, state Attorney General Martha Coakley, for running a sluggish campaign that let Republican Scott Brown set the contours of the race.

Some Democratic strategists lay the fault at the feet of President Barack Obama, saying he should have done more to sell the party’s agenda.

And in private conversations, Hill sources say White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has blamed Coakley, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake for failing to see Brown’s surge in time to stop it.

“With the legislative and political stakes so high, it’s unbelievable that the Senate committee and White House let this race get so out of hand,” said one senior Washington Democrat. “There’s a lot of blame to go around. Martha Coakley is only one of the problems here.”

Coakley is at the center of the criticism. Democrats complain that her campaign was caught napping after last month’s primary — and that Brown was able to use the pause to shape the race.

“A malaise set in, and there was a failure to take advantage of the opportunity to define yourself the next day” after the primary, said longtime Rep. Richard Neal (D-Mass.). “You thank people for the primary and then begin to define the next six weeks.”

Added Neal: “Going dark was not a great idea.”

Although DSCC Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) was still predicting victory Monday, even he conceded that it would have been “better” if Coakley had laid out the differences between the candidates earlier. He said Democrats have learned a crucial lesson: that even in very blue states, Democrats should expect a “volatile” environment with a “tough” electorate — and “you can’t afford not to be aggressive.”

“You have to define your opponent before they define themselves,” Menendez said. “In Brown’s case, he’s working hard to try to disguise himself.”

Menendez learned that the race was tightening about a week and a half ago, when independent pollsters returned results showing the race much tighter than Democratic polls had been portraying. He acted quickly — unleashing more than $2.5 million into the race, including $1.4 million in television ads in the past week alone, according to sources familiar with the effort.

The DSCC also dispatched senior staff to take tighter control of the Coakley campaign, bolster her get-out-the-vote efforts, improve her fundraising and enhance coordination between the White House and the campaign. As a result, the tone of her ads and her stump speech were sharpened in an attempt to define Brown in the minds of the voters as a far-right Republican out of touch with the state’s mainstream voters.

“Look, we’re never in place of a campaign; a candidate has to run their own race,” Menendez told POLITICO. “When the alarm bells went off, we sprung into action.”

Emanuel has told his confidants that those bells rang too late — and that both Menendez and Lake, who declined to be interviewed, should have been moving sooner.

But the White House itself is facing a barrage of criticism among Democrats, with many saying that Obama has let the GOP frame the issues — particularly health care — in the minds of many independent voters, including those who elected Republican governors in Virginia and New Jersey in the fall.

“We lost independents in Virginia, we lost independents in New Jersey and we’re losing independents in Massachusetts,” said one Democratic campaign strategist. “The only thing those three states have in common is Obama.”

The Democratic National Committee, which spent at least $750,000 almost exclusively on get-out-the-vote efforts, has also faced criticism for not dispatching its resources early enough.
Democrats recognize the difficulty any candidate would have had, given the political headwinds blowing against the party at the moment. Still, they argue that the race was still very much winnable and that a veteran pol such as Rep. Michael Capuano — who was trounced by Coakley in the primary — would not have let Brown define the race.

Instead, they complain that Coakley effectively ceded to her opponent the day-to-day news coverage — what political pros call “earned media” — by not taking him seriously enough until it was too late.

Coakley was so confident, noted one fuming Democrat, that she even stopped the critical task of identifying supporters on the phone following the primary — the very foundation on which she should have structured her turnout operation.

Brown, a little-known Republican state senator, used the opening to cultivate a regular-guy image, most vividly rendered in what became the campaign’s defining ad — that of the candidate driving around Massachusetts in his well-worn GMC truck.

And while Brown, who is actually an attorney and is married to a local news broadcaster, was defining his just-folks persona, Coakley was committing a series of gaffes that made her seem politically out of touch or at least tone-deaf.

Asked about why she was not spending more time with voters, Coakley jabbed at Brown for having greeted hockey fans who attended a special outdoor game between the Boston Bruins and the Philadelphia Flyers.

“As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?” she said.

Such one-on-one interaction with voters is the lifeblood of this state’s politics, and mocking the idea of braving the cold at Boston’s iconic baseball stadium seemed bizarre given the tens of thousands of voters who did just that to see the game.

“She had a humanity deficit as a cold campaigner, but they didn’t try to warm her up — or, instead, define the race about big issues — and instead ended up with a referendum on likability,” said one Massachusetts Democratic veteran.

J.B. Poersch, executive director of the DSCC, acknowledged that Democrats didn’t do enough to portray Coakley as an “independent voice” for Massachusetts. That allowed Brown to grab the “change” mantle — and to appeal to voters upset over the direction of the country.

“We just didn’t use the primary to set her up as a change agent enough,” Poersch said.

But Poersch strongly defended the committee’s efforts, saying “we, more than anybody, represented the difference in spending.”

“We were the principal funders of her field program,” Poersch said. “And my political director was side by side with her campaign manager” doing voter turnout.

Party officials say Monday’s debate and some subsequent Coakley gaffes may have done her in.

When moderator David Gergen asked Brown about the “Kennedy seat,” the Republican shot back that it was actually “the people’s seat.” The line became a populist rallying cry for both Brown and his supporters.

Coakley, meanwhile, hurt herself at the debate by suggesting that there were not currently any terrorists in Afghanistan.

More missteps followed, each of which amplified her weaknesses: leaving the state to attend a lobbyist-packed Washington fundraiser — which became a Brown ad; suggesting Catholics with strong views on contraception shouldn’t work in emergency rooms; appearing not to know that former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling was, in fact, a player for the Red Sox.

A candidate who was not a part of the Beacon Hill boys club, had no ties to Washington and had little in the way of a relationship with the Kennedys somehow managed to be cast as the ultimate insider.

“Massachusetts isn’t insulated from the anti-incumbent sentiment nationwide, but this was a race that a competent candidate would have won without panic or palpitations,” said a Massachusetts Democratic hand.
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One correction Jabber; we're not an overwhelmingly Democratic state. 51% of voters here are independent, about 38% are democrat, and the spare change is republican. Granted we usually elect Democrats, but we do love our republican governors (Weld, Romney).
 

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One correction Jabber; we're not an overwhelmingly Democratic state. 51% of voters here are independent, about 38% are democrat, and the spare change is republican. Granted we usually elect Democrats, but we do love our republican governors (Weld, Romney).

Thanks for the clarification.

It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall to hear the discussions going on at Democratic Party HQ in Massachusetts today though.
 

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This is interesting. With the Vice President's son deciding not to run for his father's seat (except, as in Massachusetts, it is the PEOPLE's seat,) there is every expectation now that the blue state of Delaware is going to have a Republican Senator.

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January 25, 2010

Beau Biden Won't Run For Senate


(UPDATED with Vice President Biden's statement below.)

So maybe there was some truth to this after all.

In an e-mail to supporters this morning, Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden announces that he will run for re-election in 2010, and not seek his father's former Senate seat as had long been expected. From the e-mail:
As many of you know, since returning home from Iraq, I have been giving serious consideration to running for the United States Senate. I have received strong encouragement both here in Delaware and all across the country to undertake this effort - and this outpouring of support has truly been humbling. I understand why people care so deeply about this election.

The challenges we're facing as a country are extraordinarily difficult. The economy. Jobs. Health care. Energy. Education. Climate change. Financial regulation. Foreign policy. These are not only the issues of the moment - they're the issues that will determine our children's future. And as someone who has had the privilege of serving with the bravest men and women on this planet, I care deeply about how we treat our returning veterans and how we resolve our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I feel strongly about these issues. However, my first responsibilities are here in Delaware. I have a duty to fulfill as Attorney General - and the immediate need to focus on a case of great consequence. And that is what I must do. Therefore I cannot and will not run for the United States Senate in 2010. I will run for reelection as Attorney General.
This can only be seen as a major blow to Democrats' chances not just of holding this seat, but holding onto its increasingly precarious majorities in Congress. You can just imagine the conversations Democratic incumbents and potential recruits are having with their staff, and themselves: "Well, if the Vice President's son doesn't want to run, what does that say about the environment?" The symbolism of Democrats potentially losing Vice President Biden's seat, when the seats of President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid are also at risk, is also troubling for Democrats.

Biden's decision not to run will have many questioning yet another appointment made in late 2008. Then-Gov. Ruth Ann Minner (D), a close ally of Vice President Biden, chose longtime Biden aide Ted Kaufman to fill the seat with the idea of keeping it warm for Beau Biden, who was en route to Iraq at the time. Former Lt. Gov. John Carney (D) had been lobbying for the appointment, and would have certainly run again in 2010 as the incumbent. Now, Democrats have no clear favorite, while Republicans have a strong candidate in Rep. Mike Castle.

One potential candidate for Democrats is New Castle County Exec. Chris Coons. Carney, who had decided to run for the U.S. House, could still potentially switch races at this point. Calls to aides for Beau Biden and Carney were not immediately returned.

UPDATE: Vice President Biden released this statement about his son's decision:

"I know I sound like the proud father I am, but all of his life, Beau has put duty above any personal ambition, and this decision today is another example of that exceptional character trait. Jill and I are so proud of our son and feel fortunate as Delawareans that he is our Attorney General."