FORD & UAW to offer buyout for all the 75,000 workers

[mzkhadir]

MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14831365/

 

[mcvickj]

A link for the lazy.

 

[iamwiz82]

I heard this rumor a few weeks ago. Dunno how well that is going to work out here. I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

 

[marvdmartian]

That guy in the video link on the right looks like a yuppie stoner!! :laugh:

 

[hellokeith]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

I was wondering that myself. If so, good for them. Unions have been strangling the American auto manufacturers for decades. Get rid of them. They are useless.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

I wish FoMoCo the best but it does seem 20 years too late.


...Galvanized

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

No, the UAW will still be there, just smaller. I said that because I'm hoping that they did not have 40,000 more workers than they really needed. TO be honest, the people that get buyouts will, most likely, not be rehired, I was just saying that to convince myself that Ford was not that badly mis-managed.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

They're offering the buyout to all 75000, but they'll cap how many can accept.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

They're offering the buyout to all 75000, but they'll cap how many can accept.

The cap number I heard is 40,000-45,000.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

No, the UAW will still be there, just smaller. I said that because I'm hoping that they did not have 40,000 more workers than they really needed. TO be honest, the people that get buyouts will, most likely, not be rehired, I was just saying that to convince myself that Ford was not that badly mis-managed.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if GM were managed in much the same way.

Glad to see some change finally taking place. It was a long time coming that's for sure. Really, they should have done this as soon as the Japanese started building manufacturing plants in the US.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

No, the UAW will still be there, just smaller. I said that because I'm hoping that they did not have 40,000 more workers than they really needed. TO be honest, the people that get buyouts will, most likely, not be rehired, I was just saying that to convince myself that Ford was not that badly mis-managed.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if GM were managed in much the same way.

Glad to see some change finally taking place. It was a long time coming that's for sure. Really, they should have done this as soon as the Japanese started building manufacturing plants in the US.

I'm sure this is why Ford brought in a new CEO, as well. It takes the heat of removing 40,000 jobs off of him.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: middlehead

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

They're offering the buyout to all 75000, but they'll cap how many can accept.

The cap number I heard is 40,000-45,000.

Other way round; cap is 30000 buyouts leaving 45000 union workers.

 

[fitzov]

cliffs?

why are they buying them out?

 

[jpeyton]

Bling bling.

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: fitzov
why are they buying them out?

Probably because they want to reduce the workforce and can't easily fire unionized labor.

 

[woowoo]

Originally posted by: fitzov
cliffs?

why are they buying them out?

Because their lineup of gas guzzlers is making the company bleed money.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

No, the UAW will still be there, just smaller. I said that because I'm hoping that they did not have 40,000 more workers than they really needed. TO be honest, the people that get buyouts will, most likely, not be rehired, I was just saying that to convince myself that Ford was not that badly mis-managed.

Actually a lot of the previous packages had stipulations that you cannot be re-hired at ford for x numbers of years. My mom got a package like that - she can't get a job at ford for 5 years, despite the fact that they're hirid for her position again.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: fitzov
why are they buying them out?

Probably because they want to reduce the workforce and can't easily fire unionized labor.

Is it so much that they want to reduce the workforce, or they want a more work- and cost-effective force? An old union fart making thirty bucks an hour is a lot less productive than a guy with performance incentives making fifteen to twenty bucks an hour.

 

[fitzov]

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: fitzov
why are they buying them out?

Probably because they want to reduce the workforce and can't easily fire unionized labor.

But wouldn't laying them off due to lack of work be cheaper than buying them out?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: fitzov

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: fitzov
why are they buying them out?

Probably because they want to reduce the workforce and can't easily fire unionized labor.

But wouldn't laying them off due to lack of work be cheaper than buying them out?

The union won't let Ford lay people off, that's the idea.

 

[fitzov]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: fitzov

Originally posted by: Dunbar

Originally posted by: fitzov
why are they buying them out?

Probably because they want to reduce the workforce and can't easily fire unionized labor.

But wouldn't laying them off due to lack of work be cheaper than buying them out?

The union won't let Ford lay people off, that's the idea.

The union doesn't have that power. Union employees get laid off all the time.

 

[JonTheBaller]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: iamwiz82I'm sure they will re-hire the good ones as non-union workers.

I don't keep up with the American auto manufacturers, so I'm I correct to assume a buyout of all 75000 UAW union members means that going forward, Ford Motor Co. will no longer be using *any* union labor?

I was wondering that myself. If so, good for them. Unions have been strangling the American auto manufacturers for decades. Get rid of them. They are useless.

American auto manufacturers did it to themselves. Now they're paying for their past stupidity. Hopefully they won't make the same mistakes after the UAW dies (if it dies).

 

[mrrman]

I am not surprised...old man Ford is probably rolling in his grave seeing his company sink

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: woowoo

Originally posted by: fitzov
cliffs?

why are they buying them out?

Because their lineup of gas guzzlers is making the company bleed money.

:roll: If they were bleeding before, this is hemorrhaging.

Stupid unions are gonna make Fords vehicles even more expensive, now.