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Ford Mustang gets 48.5 mpg

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Btw guys, the IRS was designed as a straight bolt-in replacement for the regular solid-axle suspension; all it took was adding two holes with "weld nuts" to the SN95 structure. That meant the IRS could be installed on the regular Mustang assembly line -- and on regular Mustangs post-purchase, though it's doubtful that happened very often. Incidentally, Bentler, an outside contractor, supplied the IRS as a preassembled module.

 
Funny how they put IRS in the Explorer and Expedition though, completely destroying their offroad credentials, while their sports car still has a solid axle

That's because they know their soccer mom clientele.

I mean, are people going to ride on stock Camaro suspension? Seriously? I don't think so. They're going to get bigger struts, stiffer springs, coilovers, or whatever.

You seriously think most people go about modding their cars to that extent?
 
I got one of the first 2011 Mustangs to hit the southwest fleet, so perhaps my mileage was due to the new engine. I had to trade it after one week...I downgraded myself to a compact so the neighbors don't get too envious.

Though out here where I live, the Yukon or Escalade parked in the driveway gets more attention.

edit-I am on the lookout for a v6 mustang with the gt wheels and suspension package, ehehe, like on the commercials. Otherwise, mine should be coming back in a few weeks. I hope the customer doesn't mess with my radio presets.
 
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Meaningless. I bet a Prius at that speed could top 70. I was able on fairly low highway speeds and hills to do high 50's in mine without even trying. Give me a flat area at a speed nobody ever drives at and set it flat it would blow the mustang out of the water.

I respect the mustang's 31 MPG. That is a real number. 48.5 is rubbish. Did I tell you that my Prius can actually get infinite MPG down hills? It's true!!! INFINITE.
 
SOHC maybe. The DOHC Modulars were around 300.

Actually, I read wikipedia and it seems that all 3 valve Modulars were SOHC. If that's true, then the 4.6L V8 from 2005-2009 was a SOHC as well!

I thought it was a DOHC too.



edit: I just wanted to clarify. You were right, but I wanted to expound on that rightness. 😉
 
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I'll bet this one doesn't get that kind of mileage...

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I'd like the Shelby GT500s if they didn't weigh eleventy million tons.

And they're basically Mustangs with some body mods, a Shelby name slapped on along with an extra 14k or so, and that's just about it.

Shelby doesn't give a shit about performance cars he just makes lumbering behemoths that suck balls.


I can't wait for his contract to expire with Ford and for the 2014 redesign. Hopefully SVT use the lessons they have learned this past decade, introduce an even stronger chassis/suspension system and have all their Mustangs lose about 600 lbs.

Or at least make some stripped out versions that non-obese people will want to drive.
 
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I'd like the Shelby GT500s if they didn't weigh eleventy million tons.

And they're basically Mustangs with some body mods, a Shelby name slapped on along with an extra 14k or so, and that's just about it.

Shelby doesn't give a shit about performance cars he just makes lumbering behemoths that suck balls.


I can't wait for his contract to expire with Ford and for the 2014 redesign. Hopefully SVT use the lessons they have learned this past decade, introduce an even stronger chassis/suspension system and have all their Mustangs lose about 600 lbs.

Or at least make some stripped out versions that non-obese people will want to drive.

You forgot the big honking all new 100 pound lighter SC V8... 550Hp and 510TQ. 😀
 
According to C & D, it's a much improved car over the old porker...

Thanks to the new engine, the electric power steering, and the lighter wheels, the car we drove tipped our scales at 3751 pounds, 146 less than the last GT500 we tested. More important, the amount of weight over the front wheels has gone from 57.4 percent to 55.7 percent. This less porky GT500 also gets better EPA gas mileage—up from 14 mpg city and 22 mpg highway to 15 and 23—making it the first GT500 to avoid a gas-guzzler penalty.

The combination of less weight, more power, better tires, and a revised suspension turns the Shelby into the car it always should have been. At the test track, we recorded 0 to 60 mph in 4.1 seconds, 0 to 100 in 9.1 seconds, and the standing quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 117 mph. Our last 2010 test car ran those sprints in 4.5, 9.6, and 12.7 seconds, respectively. The 70-to-0 braking took 151 feet, an improvement from 165. Grip came in at an impressive 1.00 g, with far less understeer than the last car’s 0.91-g effort. Those numbers are right up with a Corvette Grand Sport’s and better overall than the last BMW M3 we tested.
 
According to C & D, it's a much improved car over the old porker...

IIRC, even the old one beat the 911 Turbo in the Lightning Lap 2007 comparison. Both had heat issues after a couple of laps. The new one should be plenty competitive.
 
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You forgot the big honking all new 100 pound lighter SC V8... 550Hp and 510TQ. 😀

No I haven't. The thing still weighs ~3900 lbs. With a driver, definitely 4k lbs.

That's what bummed me out. There's no doubt that SVT did a great job designing that new engine. They just need to design a lighter Mustang. The original Mustangs weighed 2,700 lbs with a Hi-Po V8. If the 2014 Mustangs had a curb weight of around 3,200 lbs with a V8 I would be a happy camper.

The S197 Chassis is a great chassis, it's very multipurpose so they did a good job there. Let's hope they can just get the weight down.


The pics do not do it justice. It is absolutley sinister looking. Intimidating.

Saw it in person more than once and in several different colors.


I am sorry guys, it is too big. All the intimidatingness that might be perceived is lost when you see how big the damn thing is and then blown away when you learn how heavy it is.

According to C & D, it's a much improved car over the old porker...

That is very impressive. Thing is, C&D always have these really crazy drivers who wring the shit out of their cars. It's nice, but it's a bit deceiving. I stand by what I have originally said but I will clarify and say this is by no means a bad car, it's just a car I don't find very desirable.
 
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No I haven't. The thing still weighs ~3900 lbs. With a driver, definitely 4k lbs.

That's what bummed me out. There's no doubt that SVT did a great job designing that new engine. They just need to design a lighter Mustang. The original Mustangs weighed 2,700 lbs with a Hi-Po V8. If the 2014 Mustangs had a curb weight of around 3,200 lbs with a V8 I would be a happy camper.

The S197 Chassis is a great chassis, it's very multipurpose so they did a good job there. Let's hope they can just get the weight down.

3751 pounds...quite a bit less than 3900.

3580 for the GT...

Not bad at all for all the stuff they have to have in them by law these days. About as good as you can reasonably expect.
 
yea I agree all these damned laws seem bent on destroying fun. The politicians are determined to not allow idiots to die. I guess they need more voters.

I'd like to get hold of a 2006 Mustang GT and if the owner hasn't already done it, remove airbags, remove everything except the door guards and the AC. Remove all the dumb sound insulation. I don't even know why that shits there. If you want a quiet car buy a Ford Taurus or a BMW or something else.
 
yea I agree all these damned laws seem bent on destroying fun. The politicians are determined to not allow idiots to die. I guess they need more voters.

I'd like to get hold of a 2006 Mustang GT and if the owner hasn't already done it, remove airbags, remove everything except the door guards and the AC. Remove all the dumb sound insulation. I don't even know why that shits there. If you want a quiet car buy a Ford Taurus or a BMW or something else.

Then actually go do it.
 
yea I agree all these damned laws seem bent on destroying fun. The politicians are determined to not allow idiots to die. I guess they need more voters.

I'd like to get hold of a 2006 Mustang GT and if the owner hasn't already done it, remove airbags, remove everything except the door guards and the AC. Remove all the dumb sound insulation. I don't even know why that shits there. If you want a quiet car buy a Ford Taurus or a BMW or something else.

After having a idiot pull right in front of me while I was going 45 mph I'll keep the safety equipment. I do my best to be a good responsible driver but I still have to share the road with people that I have no control over. If you want to remove the safety equipment go right ahead, that's your choice but don't assume that your average person (or even yourself) is better off without it.
 
Well I see people in Prius trying to do 80mph down the freeway weaving in and out of traffic so why no lol.

80 mph, huh! When we drove through Denver on our way to Yellowstone last year, I had the cruise control set on 80 and Prius drivers were blowing by like I was sitting still. I wonder what kind of mileage a Prius gets at 90mph?
 
After having a idiot pull right in front of me while I was going 45 mph I'll keep the safety equipment. I do my best to be a good responsible driver but I still have to share the road with people that I have no control over. If you want to remove the safety equipment go right ahead, that's your choice but don't assume that your average person (or even yourself) is better off without it.

I'm not sure this safety equipement is even all that effective. I know several statisticians who have worked on several auto-related lawsuits and they seem to have found that if a seat belt can't help you, an airbag usually won't either.

I also have heard a number of stories about classics being fairly safe (despite the shenanigans with the '09 Malibu and the Bel Air a year ago). A woman I know was telling me about how her daughter's '66 six cylinder mustang rear ended a truck at 55 mph (her daughter was driving...) and the worst injury she sustained was a gash on the forehead. She walked out of the hospital.

Now I know obviously the conditions vary for each accident and so forth. I'd probably just keep the steel door guards. And I'm not advocating removing airbags from my cars. I'm just pointing out how more and more regulations demanding more and more airbags aren't going to help someone survive a terrible accident.
 
80 mph, huh! When we drove through Denver on our way to Yellowstone last year, I had the cruise control set on 80 and Prius drivers were blowing by like I was sitting still. I wonder what kind of mileage a Prius gets at 90mph?

Probably at least 40mpg.
 
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