Ford, like GM, struggling with its bottom line

[Stunt]

sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon
here [sic] is [sic] some more HARD facts, SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND, or did you [sic] education never include a freaking BASIC ECON CLASS!

Did yours never include a spelling/grammar class?

WTF IS SIC....sorry, i didnt know the spelling moderator was going to be in today, to change subjects

Just don't be a hypocrite and criticize someone's education when you can't even use basic grammar properly.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

sorry, didint give a crap in comp class....

let me change it for is to ARE....so i can please the spelling nazi's

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

Dept and and most Republicans on here need to go back to School, they have apparently missed an awful lot while staring at the Cheerleaders Belly Buttons and seductive dance moves.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon
here [sic] is [sic] some more HARD facts, SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND, or did you [sic] education never include a freaking BASIC ECON CLASS!

Did yours never include a spelling/grammar class?

WTF IS SIC....sorry, i didnt know the spelling moderator was going to be in today, to change subjects

Just don't be a hypocrite and criticize someone's education when you can't even use basic grammar properly.

dude, its an freaking message board, not a Request for Proposal or sales packet for a multi million dollar package.


and thanks for changing the topic....

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

sorry, didint give a crap in comp class....

let me change it for is to ARE....so i can please the spelling nazi's

The spelling nazi's what?

 

[Stunt]

conjur, his points are very much valid.
either attack the content or go away, grammar has very little to do with the topic at hand.
obviously you are struggling for something to attack in his reasoning.
I never expected you to stoop so low

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

sorry, didint give a crap in comp class....

let me change it for is to ARE....so i can please the spelling nazi's

The spelling nazi's what?

damn it, ok, its a fact, i cant spell.....

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

Dept and and most Republicans on here need to go back to School, they have apparently missed an awful lot while staring at the Cheerleaders Belly Buttons and seductive dance moves.

Huh?
what are you talking about?
you don't know economics, he doesn't know grammar, how does that make you better off in any respect.
At least he isn't pretending to know what he is talking about liek you are.
You still have not proven why it is the republicans fault for the failure of GM.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

sorry, didint give a crap in comp class....

let me change it for is to ARE....so i can please the spelling nazi's

The spelling nazi's what?

damn it, ok, its a fact, i cant spell.....

i think im gonna make a thread about this oil thing, casue a lot of people really don't understand the GLOBAL situation, and that the US still pays lower for imports of oil than most nations

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
sic allows a writer to point out errors in the quoted material.

Dept and and most Republicans on here need to go back to School, they have apparently missed an awful lot while staring at the Cheerleaders Belly Buttons and seductive dance moves.

WTF are you talking about.....
obviously you never went to school, cause anything business, global, or economics related you know nothing....

and WTF do cheerleaders have to do with it. the cheerleader law? I posted in that thread, its a stupid ultra right wing law.....

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Oh please STFU.... yes it would....and it would be more,

cause dems dont have connections to twist arms over to turn up oroduction like bush has been doing

im so sick of reading ur studi fvcking posts

Ah beautiful, gotcha to admit the Oil/Haliburton connection between Bush & the Saudi's :thumbsup:

If production is so high, tons of supply, then why still the high Oil and Gas prices???

every politican has connections.....please.... like kerry was clean from soft money hahahahahahaha. Bush's familiy was in the oil business, and Haliburton isnt a oil company, they are a drilling/govt contracting company, and have been doing govt contract work for over 20 yrs, not just under bush. my Source, im currently preparing to work as a contractor for them.

Bush meeting, and the famuous GARDEN WALK ARM TWIST PICTURES. Bush oil connections give him more power to do something about oil prices then any dem so please. No immeditate promises, but higher increases over time then saudi's had planned

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/25/bush.saudi/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4618022&sourceCode=RSS

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4618022&sourceCode=RSS


your knowledge of the WORLD OIL market is obviously ZERO. OIL CONSUMPTION WORLD WIDE is going way up, while production isnt moving. It isnt so much our consumption, its china's. here are SOME LINKS, since you guys are link nazi's

http://www.asiantribune.com/show_news.php?id=13996

http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/5311910.html

http://www.iags.org/futureofoil.html

http://www.iags.org/china.htm

Bush oil connections give him more power to do something about oil prices then any dem so please.

So much for your Bush God has more connections to something about Oil prices.

Oil Prices Rebound Above $50 a Barrel Mark

The latest petroleum supply snapshot from the U.S. Department of Energy showed a 2.6 million barrel increase in crude oil last week, bringing the nation's inventories to 327 million barrels, or 9 percent above year ago levels.

The supply of gasoline grew by 2.2 million barrels to 213.5 million barrels, or 6 percent above year ago levels.

Oil analyst Tim Evans at IFR Energy Services in New York said there is plenty of crude oil and gasoline in the market,

and that traders and speculators are downplaying these supply-demand fundamentals.

He said what's keeping oil prices high is "a near-religious belief that although the market is not tight now, it will be later."
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Again in Bolded Black and White that it has NOTHING to do with SUPPLY and DEMAND, NOTHING

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Oil Prices Rebound Above $50 a Barrel Mark


yeah bush could do more, if it was kerry or clinton, you would be paying 3-4 a gallon, not to mention, ever asking someone in ENgland or France, or Italy how much they pay for gas???? Aks em? its way more than we do

"The latest petroleum supply snapshot from the U.S. Department of Energy showed a 2.6 million barrel increase in crude oil last week, bringing the nation's inventories to 327 million barrels, or 9 percent above year ago levels."

The supply of gasoline grew by 2.2 million barrels to 213.5 million barrels, or 6 percent above year ago levels.



He said what's keeping oil prices high is "a near-religious belief that although the market is not tight now, it will be later."

nice links, to bad they all talk about supply and not consumption, look at the barrel counts buddy, supply increases DO NOT MATCH CONSUMPTION INCREASES...also, you are only accounting for american supply and consumption, oil is a global market...

anticipation of demand affects prices just as much as a regualr supply crunch would.....

just like your qoute says, it has to do with anticiaption of demand....


BUT REGARDLESS, WHat do you suggest Dubya do?????eh???? ideas, didnt tihnk so.....

dont say strategic oil reserves.....cause key WORD IS STRATEGIC, which is long term, and taking your pump cost down 50 cents isnt a reason to dip into our emergency supply....

"Crude futures remain about 28 percent above year ago levels even after falling sharply from their intraday high of $58.28 in early April. Oil prices would need to surpass $90 a barrel to exceed the inflation-adjusted high set in 1980."

Bush doesnt have a button in his office controlling Oil prices, he is asking for higher output from OPEc, there isnt much else he can do, less drill in alaksa, which A) wont do much at all B) would piss off all you tree huggers

the other funny things is THIS IS THE ONLY ARTICLE OUT OF MANY DOZENS that I have read that states the supply and dmeand factor is wrong, not to mention, IT SAYS TRADERS AND SPECULATORS are downplaying, not INDUSTRY EXPERTS

 

[rahvin]

Oil prices have remained fairly stable outside the dollar. In fact the euros have seen increases in price that match inflation. The big price increase in oil in the US was because the dollar devalued. Oil has it's own intrinsic value that is irregardless of the currency it trades in, if the dollar falls oil prices rise an equal percentage because the oil itself as a resource has a value and it takes more dollars to purchase that oil. It's one of the results of a fiat currency and although I'm sure people like dave can't grasp that it's true.

The dollar needed to devalue to make the US economy more competative to help compensate for the strength of the Chinese export economy. Now if we could balance the fvcking budget this country would be far better off.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: rahvin
Oil prices have remained fairly stable outside the dollar. In fact the euros have seen increases in price that match inflation. The big price increase in oil in the US was because the dollar devalued. Oil has it's own intrinsic value that is irregardless of the currency it trades in, if the dollar falls oil prices rise an equal percentage because the oil itself as a resource has a value and it takes more dollars to purchase that oil. It's one of the results of a fiat currency and although I'm sure people like dave can't grasp that it's true.

The dollar needed to devalue to make the US economy more competative to help compensate for the strength of the Chinese export economy. Now if we could balance the fvcking budget this country would be far better off.

again its all linked to the global market and supply chain, so many people dotn understand how the business world has evolved over the past ten years, and how much economies of the rest of the world affect ours

 

[conjur]

S&P cuts Ford, GM ratings to Junk Status
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfin...075276&siteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806&

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: conjur
S&P cuts Ford, GM ratings to Junk Status
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfin...075276&siteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806&

Bahahahaha rest of U.S. stocks to follow.

Great job everyone :thumbsup:

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: conjur
S&P cuts Ford, GM ratings to Junk Status
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfin...075276&siteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806&

Bahahahaha rest of U.S. stocks to follow.

Great job everyone :thumbsup:

why do you find happiness out of this situation???

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: Deptacon
BUT REGARDLESS, WHat do you suggest Dubya do?????eh???? ideas, didnt tihnk so.....

How about we stop thinking so short term and get serious about alternative sources of power.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: conjur
S&P cuts Ford, GM ratings to Junk Status
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfin...075276&siteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806&

Bahahahaha rest of U.S. stocks to follow.

Great job everyone :thumbsup:

why do you find happiness out of this situation???

Because I saw it coming two years ago and the P&N Elite said it wasn't going to happen.

 

[Stunt]

What is that? GM and Ford doing poorly, but other auto manufacturers doing well in a growing economy?
That's way too positive for one of your predictions.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt
What is that? GM and Ford doing poorly, but other auto manufacturers doing well in a growing economy?
That's way too positive for one of your predictions.

My prediction was a twofer as many would attest.

I also gave props to the Foreign Car Co's for their better MPG and warranteed Cars Vs the American junk and Gas guzzlers especially the SUV's.

 

[Stunt]

Actually hybrids account for very little of Honda/Toyota's revenues.
The article above shows that the huge gains made by the japanese automakers are due to increases in truck sales.

Alan Ohnsman writing for Bloomberg reported that Toyota Motor Corp., Nissan Motor Co. and other Asian automakers extended U.S. market-share gains for a sixth straight month in February as their new light-truck models helped draw more buyers.

Vehicles such as the new Pathfinder sport-utility vehicle by Nissan, Japan's second-biggest automaker, helped Asia-based companies raise sales by 3.9 percent to 453,132 units, Autodata Corp. said. The 10 Japanese and South Korean makers' combined market share rose 2 percentage points to a record 36.1 percent. General Motors Corp.'s sales fell 13 percent while Ford Motor Co. sold 2.9 percent fewer units last month.

Asian automakers are offering more light trucks, which rose to almost 56 percent of U.S. sales last year, because ``it's like someone once said about robbing banks: That's where the money is,'' Jed Connelly, Nissan's U.S. senior vice president, said in an interview today. ``You've got to go where the customers are.''

Toyota, the world's second-largest automaker, along with Honda Motor Co., Nissan and Hyundai Motor Co. added a combined six new SUV and pickup truck models in the U.S. during the past six months. Nissan's light-truck sales last month rose 27 percent from a year earlier and Hyundai's increased 19 percent.

But...think what you want...article was written 2 months ago.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Actually hybrids account for very little of Honda/Toyota's revenues.
The article above shows that the huge gains made by the japanese automakers are due to increases in truck sales.

Alan Ohnsman writing for Bloomberg reported that Toyota Motor Corp., Nissan Motor Co. and other Asian automakers extended U.S. market-share gains for a sixth straight month in February as their new light-truck models helped draw more buyers.

Vehicles such as the new Pathfinder sport-utility vehicle by Nissan, Japan's second-biggest automaker, helped Asia-based companies raise sales by 3.9 percent to 453,132 units, Autodata Corp. said. The 10 Japanese and South Korean makers' combined market share rose 2 percentage points to a record 36.1 percent. General Motors Corp.'s sales fell 13 percent while Ford Motor Co. sold 2.9 percent fewer units last month.

Asian automakers are offering more light trucks, which rose to almost 56 percent of U.S. sales last year, because ``it's like someone once said about robbing banks: That's where the money is,'' Jed Connelly, Nissan's U.S. senior vice president, said in an interview today. ``You've got to go where the customers are.''

Toyota, the world's second-largest automaker, along with Honda Motor Co., Nissan and Hyundai Motor Co. added a combined six new SUV and pickup truck models in the U.S. during the past six months. Nissan's light-truck sales last month rose 27 percent from a year earlier and Hyundai's increased 19 percent.

But...think what you want...article was written 2 months ago.

Maybe GM should secure a large niche in the hybrid/electric market, since they aren't doing so hot.

 

[Stunt]

Yes they should.
It is the future, and are in demand, toyota/honda can't make enough of the things.
GM is way behind the curve on this technology.
Saving on engine materials (hybrids run on smaller engines) and putting 4 electric motors doesn't take much .

Also, i don't know about you guys, but the insight and prius look god awful...if GM put out anything hybrid and decent looking, they'd win everyone over.
Hell just put a solstice shell on the friggin thing, DONE, GM is saved...
Stupid company...