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Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius

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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Syringer
Why would you put this in an F-150? 😕


Because they sell crapload of them to rednecks and cowboys every year! YEE-HAAA

From the millionaire next door book. "3 of 10 millionares drive a F-150"
So I guess they sell them to rich, redneck cowboys.
 
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
For crying out loud, why a truck? I mean, is this the representative American car?

it's where the most gain can be had, thus bringing up their fleet average MPG considerably
 
Originally posted by: redly1
I remember hearing about this back in 01 when I was working on hybrids for GM.

I forget which school it was, but a team of students was given a ford explorer and designed and built a hydraulic hybrid system.

I don't see how a CVT would work real well in a truck, though


I think there are CVT transmissions for very large trucks, even tanks if I remember right.
 
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
For crying out loud, why a truck? I mean, is this the representative American car?


Probably since for about the last 10 years Ford has consistently been able to sell over 800,000 of them every single year.

Keeping the full size truck sellable and in high demand is virtually a must for Ford and GM if they hope at all to be able to stay in business.
 
How does the inertia/torque of hydraulic energy compare to the 'linear' acceleration of an electric motor? This is an important consideration for a truck that is likely towing something, right? Does 3X more efficient mean more hp/more torque than a comparable electric hybrid?
 
Originally posted by: Injury

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10736236/from/RL.4/

Edit: Guess "cars" doesn't include trucks... so yeah, Guess the F-series is the best. I was wrong.

the F150 happens to be the best selling vehicle in the world, and i they're pretty much only sold in north america.

not only that, but the F150 has enough space between the rails and the body to handle installation of the system.

as for the CVT, it isn't the standard belt on a cone torqueless CVT. it's a hydraulic transmission. completely different.

it's amazing what can happen when you actually bother to read the f-ing thread
 
I dont even think I want to know what would happen if the pump was penetrated in an accident.

As others have said, its more efficient, but less capacity.

Personally Id love to have a plug in hybrid, that can juice up its batteries at home as well as on the road. My commute is under 2 miles. If I can do that run on electricity only, I would save a TON of gas and wear by not driving on a cold engine for a short little trip.
 
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
How does the inertia/torque of hydraulic energy compare to the 'linear' acceleration of an electric motor? This is an important consideration for a truck that is likely towing something, right? Does 3X more efficient mean more hp/more torque than a comparable electric hybrid?

Id imagine one could theoretically dump it all out in one massive burst, which would be a sh*tload of torque, but your engine would explode, unless of course, its connected directly to the transmission.
 
Way to invent, Ford. Now lets see about bringing it to market. Don't let your mouth write checks that your ass can't cash, Ford.
 
the big advantage I see is with the end of life waste disposal. Disposing of the batteries has always been a big issue with electrics.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
How does the inertia/torque of hydraulic energy compare to the 'linear' acceleration of an electric motor? This is an important consideration for a truck that is likely towing something, right? Does 3X more efficient mean more hp/more torque than a comparable electric hybrid?

Id imagine one could theoretically dump it all out in one massive burst, which would be a sh*tload of torque, but your engine would explode, unless of course, its connected directly to the transmission.
If it's anything like the HLA, there's a pump powered by the axle(s) that pressurizes the fluid in a tank. The fluid is released whenever power is needed.
 
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