Ford Escape Hybrid Priced Under $27,000

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Would love to have one, but
--can't afford one, and
--Hybrid mileage falls short of projection

Most Jap. 4cyl cars don't get there gas rating, let alone hybrids.

The test the Gov. uses was setup for older cars (i.e. BIG engines, that made all there power beloew 2K). My roommates Civic only gets 1-2 MPG better then my daily beater (87 LeSabre coupe 3.8L) Heck I have driven a 6speed corvette and got almost 30mpg on the highway

I have had a lot of customers complain about MPG in Civics, corrlas, Cav's. etc... Thing I tell them, drive them like a 4cyl and get good milage, drive them like a V6 and get less millage.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

I'm not trying to be a butt here, but:

1) The savings from your example are 1404, not 2300.
2) You are assuming that both tanks would be filled up once a week (i.e. they would get the same amount of miles off 1 tank). If the Escape is getting 35 mpg and has a 25 gallon tank, than is equivalent to 875 miles. If the Excursion has a 40 gallon tank and gets 12 mpg, that ends up being 480 miles. That means you would have very different time tables on the two cars on how often you would be filling up.
3) Why are you comparing an Excursion to an Escape Hybrid? Not even remotely the same vehicle. A comparison between the Escape V6 and the Hybrid is much more valid IMHO.

1) oops you're right about that, my bad 😱
2 & 3) Ahhh ok I see what you mean now about the size of the gas tank.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Would love to have one, but
--can't afford one, and
--Hybrid mileage falls short of projection

Unlike the EPA estimates, Ford did an actual real world test in NYC during rush hour for an entire day - the 35 city is actual driving in NYC. I can't think of a worse place for stop and go traffic.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I'll be surprised it it pulls >30 mpg in real world driving.

It's hard to overcome rolling resistance, friction, wind resistance, etc.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Escape Hybrid gets roughly twice the amount of gas mileage as the normal Escape. Assuming it has a 25 gallon gas tank, 25 gallons x $1.80 (for ex) = $45. 40 gallon tank x $1.80 (like an Excursion) = $72. $45 x 52 weeks = $2,340. $72 x 52 weeks = $3,744.

And how much someone drives is an estimate. Estimated numbers are all relative anyway.

The Escape will get mid 30's in real driving probably. Let's say 35 mpg average. An Excursion gets about 12 mpg.

Assuming the national average of 12,000 miles per year and $1.90 for regular fuel:

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Excursion: (12,000/12)*(1.90) = $1,900/year

Savings: $1,248.57/year.

You have to compare based on miles driven. Your method isn't valid because you're assuming that both vehicles get the same number of miles per tank, which is un-true.

Comparing to the V6 Escape (20 mpg average) and the I4 Escape (23 mpg average):

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Escape V6: (12,000/20)*(1.90) = $1,140/year
Escape I4: (12,000/23)*(1.90) = $991.30/year

Savings over V6: $488.57/year
Savings over I4: $339.87/year

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'll be surprised it it pulls >30 mpg in real world driving.

It's hard to overcome rolling resistance, friction, wind resistance, etc.

Actually, those are the easiest to overcome. It's overcoming mmentum when accelerating that kills mileage. Steady-state driving is the most efficient modes of driving.

ZV

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Would love to have one, but
--can't afford one, and
--Hybrid mileage falls short of projection

Unlike the EPA estimates, Ford did an actual real world test in NYC during rush hour for an entire day - the 35 city is actual driving in NYC. I can't think of a worse place for stop and go traffic.

South Korea 😛

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Escape Hybrid gets roughly twice the amount of gas mileage as the normal Escape. Assuming it has a 25 gallon gas tank, 25 gallons x $1.80 (for ex) = $45. 40 gallon tank x $1.80 (like an Excursion) = $72. $45 x 52 weeks = $2,340. $72 x 52 weeks = $3,744.

And how much someone drives is an estimate. Estimated numbers are all relative anyway.

The Escape will get mid 30's in real driving probably. Let's say 35 mpg average. An Excursion gets about 12 mpg.

Assuming the national average of 12,000 miles per year and $1.90 for regular fuel:

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Excursion: (12,000/12)*(1.90) = $1,900/year

Savings: $1,248.57/year.

You have to compare based on miles driven. Your method isn't valid because you're assuming that both vehicles get the same number of miles per tank, which is un-true.

Comparing to the V6 Escape (20 mpg average) and the I4 Escape (23 mpg average):

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Escape V6: (12,000/20)*(1.90) = $1,140/year
Escape I4: (12,000/23)*(1.90) = $991.30/year

Savings over V6: $488.57/year
Savings over I4: $339.87/year

ZV

Yes I know, PricklyPete owned me on it already 😱

 

[LTC8K6]

You'll have to keep the hybrid Escape for a while to recoup your money. 😀

 

[imported_Strang]

My gf was interested when I first mentioned it to her, but she was hoping that they'd make a hybrid Mazda Tribute -- she really likes the Tribute (and really doesn't like Ford -- her dad had a peeling-paint F150 in the late 80s or early 90s and hasn't forgiven them yet 😉 ).

 

[Pliablemoose]

Long term expenses of hybrids are still unknown, anyone know what kind of warranty Ford's offering on the battery pack?

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Escape Hybrid gets roughly twice the amount of gas mileage as the normal Escape. Assuming it has a 25 gallon gas tank, 25 gallons x $1.80 (for ex) = $45. 40 gallon tank x $1.80 (like an Excursion) = $72. $45 x 52 weeks = $2,340. $72 x 52 weeks = $3,744.

And how much someone drives is an estimate. Estimated numbers are all relative anyway.

The Escape will get mid 30's in real driving probably. Let's say 35 mpg average. An Excursion gets about 12 mpg.

Assuming the national average of 12,000 miles per year and $1.90 for regular fuel:

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Excursion: (12,000/12)*(1.90) = $1,900/year

Savings: $1,248.57/year.

You have to compare based on miles driven. Your method isn't valid because you're assuming that both vehicles get the same number of miles per tank, which is un-true.

Comparing to the V6 Escape (20 mpg average) and the I4 Escape (23 mpg average):

Escape Hybrid: (12,000/35)*(1.90) = $651.43/year
Escape V6: (12,000/20)*(1.90) = $1,140/year
Escape I4: (12,000/23)*(1.90) = $991.30/year

Savings over V6: $488.57/year
Savings over I4: $339.87/year

ZV

I wonder if insurance for the hybrid will cost somewhere betwwen $339 and $488 more per year...

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Would love to have one, but
--can't afford one, and
--Hybrid mileage falls short of projection

Unlike the EPA estimates, Ford did an actual real world test in NYC during rush hour for an entire day - the 35 city is actual driving in NYC. I can't think of a worse place for stop and go traffic.

South Korea 😛

LA Freeways

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Would love to have one, but
--can't afford one, and
--Hybrid mileage falls short of projection

Unlike the EPA estimates, Ford did an actual real world test in NYC during rush hour for an entire day - the 35 city is actual driving in NYC. I can't think of a worse place for stop and go traffic.

South Korea 😛

LA Freeways

No worse than NY city streets.

 

[Passions]

Hybrids are so overrated, it takes years to recover the $3,000 in gas fees. Bunch of chumps, lol.

 

[Tom]

How would the off-road capability of this compare with the standard Escape ? any difference in hill-climbing and descent ?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Tom
How would the off-road capability of this compare with the standard Escape ? any difference in hill-climbing and descent ?

Since when did the standard Escape have "off-road capability?"

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Strk
Something about Ford and more things to break makes me a little wary 😉

ditto. My family has not had good experience with Ford and things breaking. Blown head gaskets, electrical problems, transmission issues. Most of these problems have been in various Taurus models, so I'm sure there are some decent Ford vehicles...but no thanks.

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'll be surprised it it pulls >30 mpg in real world driving.<BR><BR>It's hard to overcome rolling resistance, friction, wind resistance, etc.

I have a 99 Silverado with a 5.3/Auto 117k miles. It consistently gets 17.5-18MPG in my real world driving which is by no means light footed. I dont consider it a huge stretch for a much smaller/lighter hybrid Escape to get over 30MPG in everyday driving.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

busted link?

 

[notfred]

I want the 4wd one. I'd buy it if I had the money.

 

[Garuda]

$400 savings in gas each year? So it'll take you what, like 9 years to realize the gasoline cost savings from this thing?

And that's *if* (and a very big if at that) this thing actually gets the gas mileage they claim, which it probably won't.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/...ids-fuel-economy_x.htm

Despite all the hype about the Toyota Prius, it's barely made a scratch on the market. There's a small number of environmentalist buyers who are purchasing these things because of their politics (and not to save money, because it takes so long to realize any savings), and more and more hybrid vehicles coming out.

That doesn't look good for Ford.

 

[EyeMWing]

Okay, so when can we expect REAL hybrid vehicles?

/me patiently waits for a hybrid (or a decent diesel) 3/4 ton van - until then, 17MPG and in pain at the pump.

And yes, I know about the Dodge/FL Sprinter - I don't fancy breaking down every few weeks. FedEx Ground uses them here and they're all over the shoulders of the highways.

 

This vehicle will not get 40mpg.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Tom
How would the off-road capability of this compare with the standard Escape ? any difference in hill-climbing and descent ?

Since when did the standard Escape have "off-road capability?"

I know it isn't a Hummer, but I wonder if the limited off-road capability of a regular Escape is lessened in the hybrid ?