Forced Windows 10 Update

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Stuka87

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Like I've been saying from the start, that setting does not reliably prevent it from installing drivers as updates. It's hit and miss.

Are you using Pro or Home. If you have Pro, you can force it to prompt you before downloading and/or installing updates via regedit. That, combined with the show/hide tool will let you achieve more or less the same control you had in the precious versions of Windows.

I am using Pro, will be sure to make those changes tonight when I am home.
 

Magic Carpet

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Had a friend call to say that his wife walked away from her laptop running 7 to return and find that 10 was being installed.

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This is how it is, on my computer. As you can see, I have to click it, myself. No shenanigans of any sorts!

Installing updates regularly (all of them). No forced Windows 10 installations on me yet.
 

postmortemIA

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This is how it is, on my computer. As you can see, I have to click it, myself. No shenanigans of any sorts!

Installing updates regularly (all of them). No forced Windows 10 installations on me yet.

It is shens. Counts on social engineering that people seeing only two options will click on one of them. Either one gets them to install Windows 10. If Microsoft really cared, the would be button "I don't want windows 10". But they do care only to have as many windows 10 installations as possible.
 

Kaido

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I have yet another broken laptop on my desk from this "automatic OS update" issue. Home user, ran regular Windows 7 updates consistently, all of a sudden got Windows 10 without asking. Unfortunately, the installation failed and it created a temporary account with none of her files available. All out of the blue; very frustrating for users & very frustrating for me as an IT tech. Apparently this is happening all over the place:

http://kotaku.com/my-pc-upgraded-to-windows-10-without-asking-then-immed-1764756440

I understand why Microsoft is doing it, and a big reason is that they can make Windows more security by forcing updates. This is the price of a free-upgrade OS, whether you want it or not. Feels like I'm back in Vista :thumbsdown:
 

PingSpike

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And my PC that is ALREADY ON WINDOWS 10 just got Windows 10 reinstalled without me asking. I was in the *middle of working*, and bam, it reboots. Comes up with the black screen with the circle and proceeds to reinstall windows 10.

That counts as two installs in the race to a billion devices. Gotta get those metrics!
 
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Elixer

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Here's a thought, does the prompt dialog steal focus, and is yes the default option? If you're in the middle of typing and it comes up, space bar will hit yes... I wonder if this is what is happening to people stating it started on it's own. Also I think hitting yes only schedules it for some random time, so if you hit yes, then you can be doing something later and it starts installing. Kinda stupid imo. For something as major as a full blown OS upgrade there needs to be a better process imo.

This is the most likely thing that went on.
Wish they would stop stealing the focus for the popups.
 

pmv

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This is how it is, on my computer. As you can see, I have to click it, myself. No shenanigans of any sorts!

Installing updates regularly (all of them). No forced Windows 10 installations on me yet.


Yeah, but then it changes from that message to one where its much less obvious how to decline it (i.e. two options, both of which mean 'yes', and a less-obvious one to postpone it).

However, being a malleable easily-led type, despite being aware that "schedule upgrade" and "OK" both mean "yes", I got so sick of the nagging that I decided to give up and let it upgrade (besides, win 7 will go EOS at some point anyway).

The upgrade process seemed problem-free, but I still stick with what I thought about Windows 8 - the 'flat' metro style is dull and ugly, and the weird start-menu menus are more awkward to use than the old style.

I just don't see the benefit of the whole "Metro" design philosophy. Its just less good than the old way.
 

Vdubchaos

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That's it, I'm turning off Windows Updates.

I still can't get rid of the stupid Win 10 pop up. Just because of these annoying things and MS tactics I simply want NO part of Win 10. Matter a fact, ANY MS products.
 

Red Squirrel

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That's it, I'm turning off Windows Updates.

I still can't get rid of the stupid Win 10 pop up. Just because of these annoying things and MS tactics I simply want NO part of Win 10. Matter a fact, ANY MS products.

Welcome to the club, I switched to Linux years ago. :D I do have a win7 machine I use for gaming but I disabled the updates when I heard about the win10 aggressiveness, just to play it safe. That and I found win7 updates were too aggressive in general. Every single time I went to use my computer it wanted to install more updates. I only have a 160GB SSD for that machine and each update round was a couple hundred MB.
 

Magic Carpet

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Yeah, but then it changes from that message to one where its much less obvious how to decline it (i.e. two options, both of which mean 'yes', and a less-obvious one to postpone it).

However, being a malleable easily-led type, despite being aware that "schedule upgrade" and "OK" both mean "yes", I got so sick of the nagging that I decided to give up and let it upgrade (besides, win 7 will go EOS at some point anyway).
I agree, it's easier to upgrade to Microsoft's latest and greatest than to constantly deal with that. I keep one Windows 7 machine for experiments.

The upgrade process seemed problem-free, but I still stick with what I thought about Windows 8 - the 'flat' metro style is dull and ugly, and the weird start-menu menus are more awkward to use than the old style.

I just don't see the benefit of the whole "Metro" design philosophy. Its just less good than the old way.
Well, at least Windows 10 doesn't feature the same full-screen Metro interface. Got the start menu back, somewhat usable. I am with ok that, albeit I hate the inconsistencies with the GUI here and there. I am still investigating its internals though, but its looking pretty customizeable, at least the Pro version, compared to the Enterprise.

The smaller hard disk foot-print, its overall improved performance and efficiency is a nice bonus, however. When I go back to my 7 machine, I can instantly feel how sluggish it is compared with 10 (similar hardware). Yeah. Progress.

I only have a 160GB SSD for that machine and each update round was a couple hundred MB.
Might give tenner a try :D

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Source.
 
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nerp

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That's it, I'm turning off Windows Updates.

I still can't get rid of the stupid Win 10 pop up. Just because of these annoying things and MS tactics I simply want NO part of Win 10. Matter a fact, ANY MS products.

You have a couple solutions.

One would be to get the GWX control panel (free tool) and it self-updates. It will block the update, delete any files the OS has preloaded for Windows 10 if they're there and keep adjusting to whatever MS's tactics are.

The other option is to take a deep breath and install Windows 10. :)