Forced Windows 10 Update

[Stuka87]

So have had a few people that I know have the Windows 10 update forced on them when they were on 7, this all in the last day.

And my PC that is ALREADY ON WINDOWS 10 just got Windows 10 reinstalled without me asking. I was in the *middle of working*, and bam, it reboots. Comes up with the black screen with the circle and proceeds to reinstall windows 10.

I am so freaking pissed off right now. It also was "nice enough" to reinstall my drivers for me, which means I have to put the GPU drivers that I had on here before back on it.

I have no clue why it felt the need to reinstall itself, much less do it without a single prompt. Interrupting my work is entirely unacceptable. And them forcing this update on older OS's is even more unacceptable. Some people run old ones because they have to for compatibility reasons (We have many 7 systems at work because they have to be 7).

As the rest of you get to experience this, feel free to vent here

 

[Red Squirrel]

MS has been very aggressive and desperate to get people on 10, but I imagine there must have been some kind of prompt at some point, I hope?

 

[boomerang]

Had a friend call to say that his wife walked away from her laptop running 7 to return and find that 10 was being installed. I thought for sure that she must have answered a prompt but he then went on to tell me that he was in the middle of watching a video and his laptop running 8.1 spontaneously started installing 10. Both installs happened on the same day within an hour of each other.

 

[nerp]

The boxes that popped up are deceptive, yes. But they did not say no. And they were prompted.

 

[LPCTech]

My Windows 7 PC is fine. Updates are turned off. My Windows 10 laptop that I upgraded from 7 to 10 on the day Windows 10 came out is also fine.
These people have a setting to auto update or are doing something to cause it.
If it SUDDENLY updates its because its been scheduled to do so carelessly.

 

[Ketchup]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2466667

As I stated in this mirror thread about the same thing, I have let every single update go through, and haven't had anything like this happen yet.

For the Windows 10 update, it lets you set the time and day you want it to restart to apply the update, so my suggestion would be to alter this setting to something that suits you better.

For Windows 7, virtually the same story. Change Settings under Windows Updates lets you pick a time to let Important Updates install automatically.

 

[nerp]

Also, the OP's experience of a sudden reboot and Win10 "reinstalling" after already being installed sure sounds like the install of a new build and not necessarily a full reinstall. The update process for major cumulative updates provides the same progress screen with the big ring as a clean install from scratch, so it makes sense that people would get confused.

 

[Piotrsama]

The boxes that popped up are deceptive, yes. But they did not say no. And they were prompted.

This.
Instead of clicking "ok" when Windows told you it was going to update to W10 in a few days.... you had to read what it was telling sneaky and choose the other option.

 

[Ketchup]

Also, the OP's experience of a sudden reboot and Win10 "reinstalling" after already being installed sure sounds like the install of a new build and not necessarily a full reinstall....

Yes to this. He is describing a new build to a tee.

 

[cytg111]

If it happens to me I'll just get to build my new dekstop rig so much sooner.. this box is going to be a win10-steam gaming pc and will be shut down 99% of the time anyway.

 

[RampantAndroid]

You should be getting a prompt in the lower right saying that updates are scheduled to be installed - that's the cue for you to go and check when it wants to reboot. It tries to plan for a time when you won't be using the computer.

 

[Stuka87]

I did not get any prompts. I started up the machine, turned on a youtube video full screen. Five minutes in to the video it rebooted and went to the install screen. And then sat there working for 20 minutes(Which on this system is a long time).

It may just be a new build, although I could not find any sites talking about some huge new update. It forced a restart on me last week during a game of World of Tanks (Which had me royally pissed off) but it only took about 30 seconds to install, then reboot. Also no prompt.

If it was just an update, why did I have to reinstall some of my drivers? And it also changed the versions (to older version) of some of my drivers. And yes, I have gone in and told it to never install drivers, because it kept rolling back my GPU drivers.

I also had a forced reboot for an update during a meeting at work a while back. So everybody got to see it on the projector I was connected to.

Its not like I am the only person to report this. Look around on forums, plenty of people having the issue.

 

[Ketchup]

OK, I have two questions for you Stuka87:

1. Was this recent update and the update last week around the same time of day?
2. If you go to Settings, Update & Security, Advanced Options, what do you have under "Choose how updates are installed"?

 

[RampantAndroid]

OK, I have two questions for you Stuka87:

1. Was this recent update and the update last week around the same time of day?
2. If you go to Settings, Update & Security, Advanced Options, what do you have under "Choose how updates are installed"?

Also, what shows up in the installed updates page?

 

[nerp]

Also, another thing to make note of...Machines that are upgraded from 7 to 10 may not get a major cumulative update installed until 30 days have passed. This is to give the user time to revert back to 7 if need be. People were upgrading and then wondering why they couldn't get the latest build through Windows update.

 

[quikah]

When I get an update that requires a restart my machine schedules the install for 3AM. Since I never have my computer on at 3AM I choose "Update and Shutdown" when I am done for the day.

What are the people that have sudden installs doing that is different?

 

[RampantAndroid]

When I get an update that requires a restart my machine schedules the install for 3AM. Since I never have my computer on at 3AM I choose "Update and Shutdown" when I am done for the day.

What are the people that have sudden installs doing that is different?

Among other things, I suspect never shutting down (I know I don't ever shut down really - I sleep if anything. Difference is I take notice of the "reboot is scheduled" notifications and then either just reboot then, reschedule it or leave the schedule alone if I like it.

 

[Stuka87]

OK, I have two questions for you Stuka87:

1. Was this recent update and the update last week around the same time of day?
2. If you go to Settings, Update & Security, Advanced Options, what do you have under "Choose how updates are installed"?

Will check when I am at that machine again tonight.

 

[Ketchup]

Cool. And I hate to be a pain, but your wording prompts another question: is this a work computer or a home/personal unit?

 

[escrow4]

If you want to kill 10 get GWX control panel and go through it. It will:

- Change the registry to ensure 10 stays dead
- Kill the little 10 icon in the sys tray and any prompts
- Kill any updates with 10 stone dead
- Delete any downloaded Win 10 updates
- Kill any pop-ups or prompts with 10

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

Get the standalone. It will likely be updated if MS changes anything else. I went through with a Win 7 laptop that I simply couldn't be bothered supporting if 10 upgraded. Laptops especially, don't upgrade them. You want a new OS buy a new laptop.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Here's a thought, does the prompt dialog steal focus, and is yes the default option? If you're in the middle of typing and it comes up, space bar will hit yes... I wonder if this is what is happening to people stating it started on it's own. Also I think hitting yes only schedules it for some random time, so if you hit yes, then you can be doing something later and it starts installing. Kinda stupid imo. For something as major as a full blown OS upgrade there needs to be a better process imo.

 

[Stuka87]

Cool. And I hate to be a pain, but your wording prompts another question: is this a work computer or a home/personal unit?

The one that seemed to "reinstall" windows is a home system that was 8.1, and was updated to Windows 10 three days after 10 was officially launched.

I just checked the update history, and there is no history, it says no updates have been installed. Which I think means either this was some giant roll up update, so the ones that used to be there no longer apply (Although they should still be there), or it actually did reinstall with a more recent build.

I did have it reboot during a presentation on my work machine, so went in and changed the update settings to only allow manual updates.

 

[Ketchup]

Good. That is how I would do it. And depending on how your work place is set up, that last one may have been a scheduled task that neither you nor MS would have control over.

 

[tidy]

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[nerp]

Some of these issues are caused by MS making the upgrade a "recommended update" which many people have checked.