Forced into graveyard shift

[Farang]

I was hired for a job about a month ago with very early hours, I leave before 5am for work.

Because of space contraints at the job my boss is pushing me to show up earlier. He got someone else to shift to 3am, but I said I can't do it because the earliest bus shows up when I do now. The other alternative that was mentioned was a ~12am start.

My initial thought is its bullshit they hire me for a M-F 6am start job and then turn it into graveyard immediately (my co-worker mentioned that the boss had been pushing for this before I showed up). However, if I'm forced into it, I'm fairly sure the going rate is something like +$2 per hour for working overnight.

Jobs are scarce and I need the money, so I'm not sure how much I should push back. If I push too hard I risk losing my job but I'd like to be there for at least 6 months so it would be worth it, because if I got forced into a graveyard shift I'd probably quit within two months or so.

So should I A) refuse, B) refuse if not given a raise, or C) bend over. Job is not highly skilled so I am replaceable, but it requires strength and dependability so they might go through a few fuckups before finding someone worthwhile (and I'm sure it cost them at least a couple grand to hire+train for this job).

 

[apac]

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

 

[MichaelD]

If you stay at this job is directly related to how bad you need the money.

/thread

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: apac

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

but if I bend over and do it, I will basically be back to job hunting instead of having a decent job with normals hours like I do now. So it is like giving 2 months notice if I accept the graveyard shift.

I need to money, I'm in debt, but not that much and I'd survive if I lost the job.

 

[spaceman]

tell ur boss it would be a shame to see his face on the side of a milk carton?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: apac

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

but if I bend over and do it, I will basically be back to job hunting instead of having a decent job with normals hours like I do now. So it is like giving 2 months notice if I accept the graveyard shift.

I need to money, I'm in debt, but not that much and I'd survive if I lost the job.

Just do it while looking for something else.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: apac

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

but if I bend over and do it, I will basically be back to job hunting instead of having a decent job with normals hours like I do now. So it is like giving 2 months notice if I accept the graveyard shift.

I need to money, I'm in debt, but not that much and I'd survive if I lost the job.

Just do it while looking for something else.

I guess that is the best choice seeing as how I'll be debt free in another few weeks of work. just frustrating since I thought I'd ended my months-long job search with this job, but it is looking more like temporary work while I keep looking

 

[MichaelD]

Having some income is infinitely better than having no income. Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

Not bashing you, but since you're one of the thousands of folks that are currently/recently unemployed, I'd consider myself lucky to have an opportunity for income.

I've been in your shoes. I've went from "skilled blue collar" to "moving heavy things monkey" many times. Yes; I felt degraded. But my bills got paid.

Now I'm sorta "white collar" (network admin) and am infinitely grateful for where I am.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Having some income is infinitely better than having no income. Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

Not bashing you, but since you're one of the thousands of folks that are currently/recently unemployed, I'd consider myself lucky to have an opportunity for income.

I've been in your shoes. I've went from "skilled blue collar" to "moving heavy things monkey" many times. Yes; I felt degraded. But my bills got paid.

Now I'm sorta "white collar" (network admin) and am infinitely grateful for where I am.

I'm sure I'd do it if required, but I was wondering how much I should resist since the shift changes are something he is tossing around and not really a set-in-stone thing that absolutely has to be done. If I push back, maybe I keep my hours and can work there saving for a few more months.

Also, I've never worked graveyard before. Already when I work full time I am too drained to effectively job hunt. I have quit a shit job before because it wasn't worth my energy, and because I was able to devote myself to looking for something else I got a 30% raise at a new job in a little over a month. In this case, even without anything lined up I'd probably do the same thing after a couple months of saving.

 

[uli2000]

When I graduated from school, pretty much everyone in healthcare starts out doing the night shift. I have to admit, it was hard on my body for a couple of months. but after I got used to it, I loved it. Even thought Ive since been at a day shift job for over 4 years now, I still wish I could go back to night shift. Only thing you have to be careful about (well, at least for me), is maintaining good diet and excercise habits. We had no cafeteria at night, so instead of doing something smart like bring a lunch to work, Id eat greasy fast food since that was all that was open 24 hours where I was living. the a few times a month, a bunch of us would go out to ihop or dennys and have a huge breakfast after work and then I would go to bed right afterwards. Needless to say, that kind of behavior added 125 lbs on my already overweight frame, and Ive been fighting to get it off ever since.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: apac

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

but if I bend over and do it, I will basically be back to job hunting instead of having a decent job with normals hours like I do now. So it is like giving 2 months notice if I accept the graveyard shift.

I need to money, I'm in debt, but not that much and I'd survive if I lost the job.

Just do it while looking for something else.

I guess that is the best choice seeing as how I'll be debt free in another few weeks of work. just frustrating since I thought I'd ended my months-long job search with this job, but it is looking more like temporary work while I keep looking

thats where i'm at now, although I knew when i took this job that it would only be temp until i found something better.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Farang
I was hired for a job about a month ago with very early hours, I leave before 5am for work.

Because of space contraints at the job my boss is pushing me to show up earlier. He got someone else to shift to 3am, but I said I can't do it because the earliest bus shows up when I do now. The other alternative that was mentioned was a ~12am start.

My initial thought is its bullshit they hire me for a M-F 6am start job and then turn it into graveyard immediately (my co-worker mentioned that the boss had been pushing for this before I showed up). However, if I'm forced into it, I'm fairly sure the going rate is something like +$2 per hour for working overnight.

Jobs are scarce and I need the money, so I'm not sure how much I should push back. If I push too hard I risk losing my job but I'd like to be there for at least 6 months so it would be worth it, because if I got forced into a graveyard shift I'd probably quit within two months or so.

So should I A) refuse, B) refuse if not given a raise, or C) bend over. Job is not highly skilled so I am replaceable, but it requires strength and dependability so they might go through a few fuckups before finding someone worthwhile (and I'm sure it cost them at least a couple grand to hire+train for this job).

Are you at a Rally's 'cause that is a tight fit.

 

[joesmoke]

Originally posted by: spaceman
tell ur boss it would be a shame to see his face on the side of a milk carton?

bout time somebody started talkin with some sense...

 

[StinkyPinky]

Remember these companies that treat people like shit during recressions. Once the economy booms all their employees will bail.

 

[JS80]

Jobs are scarce and I need the money

Job is not highly skilled so I am replaceable

Sounds like you answered your own Q

 

[Red Squirrel]

Night shifts are actually nice. That way you have all day to do things that you normally would not be able to do because you're at work, and those places close at same time as you. Ex: getting a haircut, going to government offices for random stuff, getting work done on the house. These are small things, but when you work a normal shift they are hard to get done. I would hate starting right at 12:00am though. My favorite shift when I was at help desk was 12:30pm to 9:00pm. Getting home at 9:00 I still have some time left in the day, but could go to bed as late as I wanted, so I got more stuff done. Then I could sleep in. That shift was pure heaven. I would almost go back to help desk if given that shift permanently with zero chance of change. Server tech pays more though.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: uli2000
that kind of behavior added 125 lbs on

:Q

 

[episodic]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: uli2000
that kind of behavior added 125 lbs on

:Q

I saw that too - I hope you meant 25.