For your next job, switch work ethics

JEDI

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if you're hard working and putting in the extra hours (w/o pay), then try to be a slacker. Putting in just enuf effort to not get you fired.

If you're a bottom feeder, then try your best. Put alot of effort for your job.


After a year, compare what you've been doing vs your old work ethic. And see which one you like better. You might be surprised...
 

MrPickins

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if you're hard working and putting in the extra hours (w/o pay), then try to be a slacker. Putting in just enuf effort to not get you fired.

In this economy, that doesn't strike me as a good idea...
 

Engineer

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if you're hard working and putting in the extra hours (w/o pay), then try to be a slacker. Putting in just enuf effort to not get you fired.

If you're a bottom feeder, then try your best. Put alot of effort for your job.


After a year, compare what you've been doing vs your old work ethic. And see which one you like better. You might be surprised...

I'll do just that. No more working my ass off! :biggrin:
 

hiromizu

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In this economy and any economic state really, one needs to think hard and deep that's what she said about these simple but often misintegrated steps before every decision and action.

Conceive of and list every potential strategy and pick the best one then ask yourself if this is the most efficient strategy? Are the proper incentives in place for the non strategists? Can this strategy lead consistent and long term returns? If not and things are not holding above waterline, what are the risks including all the unknown potential ones and what would be the necessary hedges in order to maintain positive returns or at least provide a platform that would allow a push towards a positive shift in paradigm? How flexible is this strategy and how can the changes be implemented without a full breakdown and circle back that could lead to an expensive endeavor that would not waste previous efforts? and so on.

Businesses are challenged and have struggled from the "top down" methology. In order to maintain the competitive edge, businesses must now think beyond the top down mentality and think "broadly" and execute with better precision than ever before.
 
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Hacp

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Slacking is an art. You need to be looking productive even when you're not. You need to know how to pass last year's work off as this year's.
 

deadlyapp

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Coming from someone whos done this before without actually necessarily meaning to, slacking is by far better.

Better than slacking wholly is slacking while looking like you're doing a lot of good stuff. I've been well liked by all my bosses but I rarely exert much effort in my job because it does me no good.

In "This economy" good performance won't yield any perks. You can work your ass off and not get a raise or anything more than maybe a pat on the back, while slacking but still doing what you are asked to do will get you virtually the same thing.
 

spidey07

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You'll be much happier by slacking. The problem with doing extra I'd you set expectations too high.

The goal is to set low expectations that way you'll always look good because when slacking you're exceeding them. This is a very valuable skill to learn. I wish I would have learned it earlier in my career.
 

Engineer

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You'll be much happier by slacking. The problem with doing extra I'd you set expectations too high.

The goal is to set low expectations that way you'll always look good because when slacking you're exceeding them. This is a very valuable skill to learn. I wish I would have learned it earlier in my career.

Is it too late for this ole dog to learn that new trick (new to me)?

I tend to agree that if you show you can do something then you are not only expected to do more of it, but you are rewarded....with more work. I heard your lesson from an engineer years ago but never took it to heart. I should have listened then....the more you let them know, the more they expect from you.
 

mmntech

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We got some punk kid at work who takes naps in the trucks and takes an hour to pick up people who live 10 minutes away. Who says slacking doesn't pay... for him anyway. Never been fired or reprimanded, been there longer than I have. Makes everyone else (ie me) carry his load.
 

IndyColtsFan

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You'll be much happier by slacking. The problem with doing extra I'd you set expectations too high.

The goal is to set low expectations that way you'll always look good because when slacking you're exceeding them. This is a very valuable skill to learn. I wish I would have learned it earlier in my career.

You and me both, my friend.
 

theeedude

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I think of it in car terms. If you buy a car and the engine has to work hard all the time just to get around town, it's probably too small for the job. But if you get a car and engine burbles at low RPMs most of the time, and the rare times it works hard, it kicks major butt, then you will say, that's a nice engine.
So as employee, you want to be working normal, balanced hours most of the time at low RPMs, and the few times you are working hard, it should be so you can kick major butt and get good visibility out of it.
 

Engineer

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I think of it in car terms. If you buy a car and the engine has to work hard all the time just to get around town, it's probably too small for the job. But if you get a car and engine burbles at low RPMs most of the time, and the rare times it works hard, it kicks major butt, then you will say, that's a nice engine.
So as employee, you want to be working normal, balanced hours most of the time at low RPMs, and the few times you are working hard, it should be so you can kick major butt and get good visibility out of it.

That's nice and all but the way that companies are today is that they keep a small of staff as possible and constantly load you up with work knowing that you will have to work your ass off to do it but what other choice do you have? They know that jobs are hard to come by and know you are less likely to leave no matter how much work they throw on you.

I did exactly as you described above in my last job but I can't now. The company was supposed to hire another engineer when I was hired. They did not. Not only that, but they lost an engineer a few months ago and have not replaced him. The work load didn't change, just shifted around and since I'm the only guy "basically" left in operations (two others in R&D), I get most of the work (my boss takes part of it because he knows that there is nobody else).

Makes for a sad and tired Engineer.....<-----

My engine has been at high revs for a long time and no oil changes. At some point, I'm going to seize up and they will need a new engine(er) to replace this one.
 

Hacp

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That's nice and all but the way that companies are today is that they keep a small of staff as possible and constantly load you up with work knowing that you will have to work your ass off to do it but what other choice do you have? They know that jobs are hard to come by and know you are less likely to leave no matter how much work they throw on you.

I did exactly as you described above in my last job but I can't now. The company was supposed to hire another engineer when I was hired. They did not. Not only that, but they lost an engineer a few months ago and have not replaced him. The work load didn't change, just shifted around and since I'm the only guy "basically" left in operations (two others in R&D), I get most of the work (my boss takes part of it because he knows that there is nobody else).

Makes for a sad and tired Engineer.....<-----

My engine has been at high revs for a long time and no oil changes. At some point, I'm going to seize up and they will need a new engine(er) to replace this one.

When you go, can I have your stuff?:D
 

moshquerade

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Slacking is an art. You need to be looking productive even when you're not. You need to know how to pass last year's work off as this year's.
Agreed.

But for those of us who aren't slackers by nature, slacking is a more difficult job than actually being busy.
 

olds

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olds, looks at thread title, "Interesting"
olds, looks at op's name, "probably going to be a lame post"
olds, "I wonder what it's like to be wrong. I guess I'll never know"
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Hah.

I prefer to slack off, but slacking at my job gets your hours cut. I bust ass every day and not only do I get all the extra hours, but I'm also up for emp. of the month.

On a side note, is anybody else scared of what lurks behind Olds' QR code...
 

BarkingGhostar

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if you're hard working and putting in the extra hours (w/o pay), then try to be a slacker. Putting in just enuf effort to not get you fired.

If you're a bottom feeder, then try your best. Put alot of effort for your job.


After a year, compare what you've been doing vs your old work ethic. And see which one you like better. You might be surprised...
The last slacker in my group lasted 9 months. So much for 'after a year' advice. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 

DaveSimmons

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If you're straight edge, try adding drugs to the mix.

After a year, compare what you've been doing vs uh, something or other, like, whatever it was you were doing before? Like wow, heavy.
 

Old Hippie

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I tend to agree that if you show you can do something then you are not only expected to do more of it, but you are rewarded....with more work. I heard your lesson from an engineer years ago but never took it to heart. I should have listened then....the more you let them know, the more they expect from you.
For some reason or another I had the feeling you were old enough to know that.

Every situation is different but sometimes it's smart to be dumb.