For those that can't afford the internet, broadband stamps ?

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Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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Enough is enough. While I can sympathize with poor people not having internet access, this is going too far. I live in an area where better net access could help tons of people, but many if they had access to it would not use it and it isn't because they are poor. Many do not want to take the time to learn how to use a computer or the internet, so what then ? What if they are too poor to afford a computer ? We buy those I guess.

Rural areas can benefit more than most cities from net access because things are so far apart that transportation is often a problem. I know many school kids that cannot get to the county library because it is miles away from where they live, and in rural areas there are no taxis, or other public transportation, but I will not go as far as saying we should just hand out free internet and a pc to match if needed. There are already funds taken out every month in the form of taxes to pay for getting the net to rural areas, make them spend the money for what it is supposed to and separate the last mile to each home from the ISP and these problems go away.

Food for Thought Regarding Broadband Progress

by

Deborah Taylor Tate*

The Federal Communications Commission recently released its annual “Section 706
Report” on broadband deployment and, for the first time since the FCC began to
issue this report, concluded that broadband is not being “deployed to all Americans
in a reasonable and timely fashion.” Surprisingly, a majority of the FCC came to this
conclusion despite finding that 95% of Americans have access to broadband.
In fact, previous Section 706 Reports (issued by both Democrats and Republicans)
have extolled America’s achievements in connecting individuals over the past
decade. Today, not only do 95% of Americans have broadband access at home, but
also at school, work, and increasingly on the go. The U.S. leads in broadband at
schools, in wireless connectivity, and hotspots – most of which are free.

Additionally, the government already provides subsidies to connect schools and
libraries, low income and rural Americans, and rural healthcare providers with
regional research hospitals. Nevertheless, some Americans who do have access to
broadband decide not to use their family budget to subscribe. Just as we learned
with respect to the DTV transition, some people affirmatively choose not to utilize
these technologies, at least not early on.

Following in the FCC’s footsteps, some left-leaning organizations joined in this
unfounded criticism of America’s technological advances by decrying the state of
broadband deployment as “inadequate” or “unacceptable.” They even went so far as
to state that “other nations are passing us by.” In reality, except for a few nations
that heavily subsidize broadband (and also rank at the top of high tax nations), the
U.S. has been, and will continue to be, a global leader in broadband. Moreover,
without America’s visionary scientists, entrepreneurs, and engineers, it is unlikely
that broadband or the Internet would even exist. Nor would the world be as globally
connected today without the contributions of U.S. investors and large and small
infrastructure providers utilizing all varieties of technologies.

More radical detractors of this explosive broadband growth have even compared thi
so-called lack of broadband to a lack of grocery stores. But perhaps we should take
a lesson from our government’s food and hunger policy and encourage the
detractors of our current broadband services to be part of the solution. Rather than
new indiscriminate broadband spending initiatives, perhaps certain eligible
Americans could have “broadband stamps” – after all, a similar, well-established
program called Lifeline/Linkup currently exists to support access for ordinary
telephone service.


Such “broadband stamps” would then allow certain low-income eligible citizens to
purchase broadband services on a technology-neutral basis from a cable, telephone,
wireless, or satellite provider. The stamps could underwrite a minimum broadband
package, consisting of enough “bytes” to surf the web and send emails to family
members. Then, such citizens could make their own decisions about whether they
wanted to utilize their broadband stamps for some amount of circumscribed access,
or also contribute their own hard earned cash to get a gourmet selection that might
cost them a little more, or even an even more expensive “all you can eat” bundle of
services. Still others might decide they want to use their stamps for a pre-pay
provider so they know exactly what they are getting on the front end and how it will
affect their family budget. And, with the prospect of these new subscribers,
companies might find a business model that would also incentivize the deployment
of “fast food” (faster broadband speeds) in rural, remote, and low income areas.

So rather than dictating what Americans “should” get, or what is “best for them,” let’s
let Americans decide for themselves what type of services they need for their own
families. As broadband networks continue to pour over $30 billion in private capital
per year into broadband infrastructure, at a time when the government has had to
bail-out other market sectors, maybe those who criticize the state of broadband
access should get to work on a real problem and start building more grocery stores
in low-income or blighted areas in a “reasonable and timely fashion.”

*Deborah Taylor Tate, Distinguished Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Free State
Foundation, is a former commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission
and an ITU World Telecommunication and Information Society Laureate
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Bateluer

Lifer
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I'd have to say I'm against hand outs in general. They should only be for the basic essentials of life, basic shelter and food. And I don't count alcohol and tobacco products in those essentials.

As much as I spend online and utilize the Internet, it is not essential to daily life. At least, not yet.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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It is pretty essential to me, but people can pay for it themselves. I don't want to subsidize someone's porn surfing. We already subsidize that for our federal employees.
 

FuryofFive

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if there giving it out for free..couldnt they limit what is accessed. such as torrent sites and pron... And by agreeing to use it they could agree to be monitored. Maybe as an agreement allow them to collect data as to what people see
 

StageLeft

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iPhone tickets and Xbox Live Gold Membership coupons on the way, too.

Actually, I do think that internet is damn near mandatory, but maybe that's because I like knowledge. Broadband less so. It sucks surfing the net on dialup but people don't need stamps to help them watch hulu and youtube, get real.
 

Bateluer

Lifer
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if there giving it out for free..couldnt they limit what is accessed. such as torrent sites and pron... And by agreeing to use it they could agree to be monitored. Maybe as an agreement allow them to collect data as to what people see

I'd rather they didn't even go down that path, calls into play too many concerns with privacy and censorship. Better to simply state 'We're not providing free broadband.'.

If you want more than life's bare essentials, you have to work for it.
 

FuryofFive

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Sep 7, 2005
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I'd rather they didn't even go down that path, calls into play too many concerns with privacy and censorship. Better to simply state 'We're not providing free broadband.'.

If you want more than life's bare essentials, you have to work for it.

i def. agree. people need to work for what they have.
in the rare case, some may need it.

Also alot of people could use it for purposes that are not what they should..such as acts of violence or criminal's
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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Such free handouts are stupid. This has to stop somewhere. People just don't understand that "free" really means "you're going to pay so some freeloader can get it for free".
 

Tristicus

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I'd have to say I'm against hand outs in general. They should only be for the basic essentials of life, basic shelter and food. And I don't count alcohol and tobacco products in those essentials.

As much as I spend online and utilize the Internet, it is not essential to daily life. At least, not yet.

This.

It is not, as I've argued before, something needed for daily life. If you run a business off of the internet, then you already HAVE internet. If you make money off the web, you already HAVE the web. If you need the web to watch YouTube videos and shit, you pay for the web like I do. As much as I love having cable internet access, I can (and have for short periods) lived without it. Easily. And anybody who does not support themselves ALREADY by paying for an internet plan and making money off of it can too.
 

Daedalus685

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there's this magic thing called a public library. it's free.

Yeah...

What is up with this?

I totally understand that banking, looking for a job, and so forth on the internet might be essential to folks these days. But is this not the exact reason we have a library in the first place?

Do places in the states not have public access free Internet terminals that can be used, an hour or so at a time, for just these such essential things?
Nearly every single library and certainly every Canada works/Ontario works (and most publicly run job search offices) has free to use Internet terminals for legitimate essential activities.

Why would one need it in their home and I'd have to think that most who cannot afford entry level Internet likely don't own a computer either.

I'm 100% behind expanding the broadband access to homes. I am stuck with what I deem very slow at home too... But this does not mean I expect it to be provided free of charge... just more available. I'd even go so far as to agree not having access to it would be like not having a grocery store as they mention... but I'd still expect to have to go and buy things at the store.
 

Moonbeam

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People should pay for using the internet. They should pay by the amount of data they download or upload and by time on line with cost doubling every fifteen minutes per 8 hr period.
 

Sinsear

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Jan 13, 2007
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Maybe next we can give everyone 40" TV's too. Or maybe a car to get around with. Everyone loves free.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
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Its not free! Someone is paying for that.

fair enough. it is a free-use program that is already paid for by taxes. there is no need for an additional program to provide broadband internet when public libraries provide that service already.

sorry if i missed humor/sarcasm