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Skott

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This post is mostly for the beginner/novice and just a FYI. Although the upgraders may find this info useful as well. Next week the new nVidia G80 cards launch. What we know so far, as far as rumors go, is that the GTX version takes up to 230w of power and up to 18amps. the GTX card is rumored to be 10.4 inches or 11inches long depending on who you believe. What does this mean for you? Well, if the early reports are true the new buyer needs to choose a case and psu that can handle this new card. Alot of small and mid-tower cases wont be able to fit in this new video card possibly. So when choosing a case make sure its big enough. You wont want your new card touching or being blocked by the back of your drives.

nVidia is reccomending a 450w psu to run a single 8800GTX. Depending on your setup you may need a bigger beefier psu than what nVidia reccomends. The better multi-rail psu only support up to 18amp on one rail. This shouldnt be a problem if you are only running one 8800GTX but if you plan to run two this could prove problematic. Some of the psu manufacturers are going back to a single rail unit so they can offer 60amps, and sometimes more, to power these new cards.There's also a rumor that the new ATI cards will require even more power and more amps per rail but this is purely rumor and speculation at this point.

I dont want to spread false info or anything but I do want people to be aware they need to look closely at their psu and case selections to avoid any potential problems. Just keep this in mind when planning your build. Next week (November 8th) the G80 launch takes place and more concrete info should be availble then.

Okay, this ends my service announcement. Happy Halloween!
 
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Skott

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My understanding is 230w for the card itself. I'd assume thats at peak load. Like I said though we'll get exact numbers on the 8th once the launch happens and the NDA is lifted and reviews get posted.
 
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Skott

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
So is the Corsair 520W fine? Looks like it has 3 12V rails at 18 amps each.
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My best guess is yes assuming the current rumors hold true. Those wanting to run 8800GTX in SLI, or have psu that have less than 18amps on the 12V rails, may have to rethink their psu choice. But thats why I would wait and read the reviews closely once the NDA is lifted. We should know in about 8 days.
 
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Are there going to be any mid-range GTX's? I don't think I would be able to afford the top of the line. Is it a series or just one card as of Nov. 8th?




Thanks,
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Originally posted by: westihockey09
Are there going to be any mid-range GTX's? I don't think I would be able to afford the top of the line. Is it a series or just one card as of Nov. 8th?
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It's been all but confirmed that we'll see 2 cards on the 8th, the lower-end 8800GTS ($400-$500 estimated) and the high-end 8800GTX ($550-$650 estimated). Difference in amount of shaders and RAM is the major points.

It's not known how much of each (if any) will be available on the 8th, we'll see. I'd like to pick one of these up, probably the lower-end version, but it'll most likely be out of my price range.
 
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Skott

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First couple of weeks they'll be pretty expensive but as the holidays approach the prices should drop a fair mount I would think. It'll also depend on how soon nVidia plans to roll out more models and how soon ATI can get their next gen card out. The sooner they come out the sooner prices will drop.
 
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um... maybe this is a dumb question since I don't generally read prerelease specs on video cards, G80 = DX10?
 
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Originally posted by: Skott
What we know so far, as far as rumors go, is that the GTX version takes up to 230w of power and up to 18amps. the GTX card is rumored to be 10.4 inches or 11inches long depending on who you believe.

nVidia is reccomending a 450w psu to run a single 8800GTX. Depending on your setup you may need a bigger beefier psu than what nVidia reccomends. The better multi-rail psu only support up to 18amp on one rail. This shouldnt be a problem if you are only running one 8800GTX but if you plan to run two this could prove problematic. Some of the psu manufacturers are going back to a single rail unit so they can offer 60amps, and sometimes more, to power these new cards.
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Sounds very much like the last days of they-can't-possibly-fail 3dfx, doesn't it.

 
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
um... maybe this is a dumb question since I don't generally read prerelease specs on video cards, G80 = DX10?
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Yes.
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Then I'll wait for ATI before I decide...and I want to know if Nvidia adhered 100% to the DX10 specification (not like they do with DX9 now and kinda cheat) which is why ATI is able to run folding@home on their GPU among other small things.
 
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Skott

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Yeah, I'm planning on another build in November (if everything works out like i want) and I'm thinking I'll just buy a eVGA 7900GTO card and then use their Step Up program after the first of the new year to get a G80. That is assuming ATI doesnt come up with something better. Basically i'm waiting to see what kind of psu I'm going to need for the G80 later on down the road. Also waiting on some better mobos.
 
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Originally posted by: Skott
Yeah, I'm planning on another build in November (if everything works out like i want) and I'm thinking I'll just buy a eVGA 7900GTO card and then use their Step Up program after the first of the new year to get a G80. That is assuming ATI doesnt come up with something better. Basically i'm waiting to see what kind of psu I'm going to need for the G80 later on down the road. Also waiting on some better mobos.
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Unless you are using SLI why wouldn't your Seasonic S-12 work?
 
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Smartazz

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7 Days! I'm planning to get an 8800GTX, but I think I'll wait until I see what ATI has to offer.
 
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Originally posted by: Smartazz
7 Days! I'm planning to get an 8800GTX, but I think I'll wait until I see what ATI has to offer.
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I'd like to buy too, but yes I think the wait and see is a good idea. Especially considering that my card... is pretty damn good anyway. Plus I'm looking for a memory upgrade anyway...gonna take some funds away.
 
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Smartazz

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Smartazz
7 Days! I'm planning to get an 8800GTX, but I think I'll wait until I see what ATI has to offer.
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I'd like to buy too, but yes I think the wait and see is a good idea. Especially considering that my card... is pretty damn good anyway. Plus I'm looking for a memory upgrade anyway...gonna take some funds away.
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Hopefully memory prices will go down by early next year. I got the same RAM as you about 3 months ago, back then prices were reasonable.
 
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prophet001

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about the new dx10 cards. what motherboards are gonna handle em? if i wanted to build a comp now and wait for dx10 cards and maybe get by with something then what mobo would i plan for? and what about sli or xfire? hmm any resources out there?
 
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Skott

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
Yeah, I'm planning on another build in November (if everything works out like i want) and I'm thinking I'll just buy a eVGA 7900GTO card and then use their Step Up program after the first of the new year to get a G80. That is assuming ATI doesnt come up with something better. Basically i'm waiting to see what kind of psu I'm going to need for the G80 later on down the road. Also waiting on some better mobos.
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Unless you are using SLI why wouldn't your Seasonic S-12 work?
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The build in my sig is actually for my daughter. I plan to build another around a E6600. I'm not sure if I'll want SLI/CF or not. Thinking I might want that option so not sure on what psu would cover all my future options. Rumors and speculations are that the new ATI cards will use more power and more amps than the G80 so my hesitency on which psu to get. I havent even decided on wether a SLI mobo or a CF mobo yet. At this point its a wait and see attitude.
 
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Varun

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Originally posted by: prophet001
about the new dx10 cards. what motherboards are gonna handle em? if i wanted to build a comp now and wait for dx10 cards and maybe get by with something then what mobo would i plan for? and what about sli or xfire? hmm any resources out there?
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Any current motherboard that supports a PCI-E x16 slot will be able to handle one of these cards.
 
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Skott

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Okay, the 8800GTS and the 8800GTX is out. Make sure your case can hold these cards. The GTX is 10.5 inches long. One reviewer said a P180 case will hold it if the hard drive cage opposite it is empty but not if there is a drive inside. So be aware some of these cases will have some issues with this big boy. Choose your case carefully!
 
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