For those of you who juice....

[OccamsToothbrush]

The really fast ones that use a blade break up all the enzymes and you don't get as much out of the juice.

No. No. No and No. Don't acquire what passes for knowledge by watching infomercials created by hucksters trying to sell you things.

 

[snoopy7548]

Ok good to know. So much conflicting info out there when it comes to nutrition it's nuts.

Nuts are very good for you!

 

[Red Squirrel]

Nuts are very good for you!

Lol even that I've heard both sides. But yeah I'm leaning towards them being good for me because I eat them a lot. I figure it's better than chips... and I also try to get unsalted when it's available.

 

[Red Squirrel]

No. No. No and No. Don't acquire what passes for knowledge by watching infomercials created by hucksters trying to sell you things.

I guess this is one of those other areas where there's conflicting info.... I heard more people say it's true than it's not though including medical professionals. I would be open to seeing results tested in a lab though. A lot of nutritional related studies tend to be garbage with no actual science used.

Found a couple links that seem to say masticating is generally better at keeping nutrients.

Masticating vs Centrifugal Juicers – What’s the Difference? | House Grail

Big words. Where to start? Here, with our comprehensive comparison of masticating and centrifugal juicers. Learn the difference and what's right for you...

juicerkings.com

Why Masticating Juicer Is Better - Expert Juicer Reviews

Juicing has massive health benefits. More importantly, it’s not the same as blending. With juicing, you are assured of more juice. Apart from that, you can also look forward to juice with an improved freshness. The efficiency of the juicers is also unmatched. That is the situation whether you are…

expertjuicerreviews.com

Slow Juicer Vs Fast Juicer - Does It Really Matter?

There's a lot of pseudo-science out there about slow juicers versus fast juicers. Read our factual and objective guide to the differences here.

www.ukjuicers.com

 

[snoopy7548]

Juicing... nuts... masticating...

What's going on here?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Lots of catching up to do after no nut November.

 

[Jeeebus]

Breakfast is served - and stealthily made while the wife and kids sleep.

 

[Captante]

correction not all fibres convert to sugar!!

Serious question ... what fiber does the human body convert to sugar? I was not aware of this.

 

[destrekor]

Serious question ... what fiber does the human body convert to sugar? I was not aware of this.

Nothing that is considered Dietary Fiber is ever converted to sugar by the human body. The whole idea of calling it dietary fiber is because our body lacks the natural enzymes necessary to digest it, and is thus the roughage that forms the bulk of feces.
That said, there might be some that are converted to sugars in the colon that may be reabsorbed? There is additional digestive activity in the cecum and colon, mostly due to some fermentation from natural bacterial residents. But even then I don't think there is much actual raw sugar/easily digestible products from these stages, because if one bacteria breaks the carbohydrate chains of fiber into the component sugars, other bacteria there will be using that sugar to fuel other metabolic processes that result in, I think, short-chain fatty acids that ultimately get absorbed by the body.

 

[pmv]

Smoothies > juice. Why would you want to get rid of all the fiber by juicing? A good blender would also run you $160 and up though.

I've heard that smoothies are bad also, because while they still have some fibre, compared to juice, they break it down such that your digestive system gets access to the sugars (fructose) in the fruit and veg much more quickly, when compared to whole fruit, thus causing sugar spikes, thus making your insulin do a lot of work.

But what I don't understand about that claim is, surely it contradicts what we get told about chewing food properly? It would suggest that the right thing to do is to eat food hastily without chewing it, as surely if you chew fruit you are doing much the same thing that a blender does? If you don't chew fruit or veg properly, you are slowing down the release of the fructose in your system.

I've also seen it clamed that fructose is particularly bad, compared to sucrose or glucose, because of the way your metabolism works - but that would imply tinned fruit in syrup is actually better for you than tinned fruit in fruit juice, which is the opposite of what I'd previously heard.

 

[pmv]

I find my £20 smoothie-maker works perfectly well for me. I suspect eating whole fruit is better for you though.

Though it is true I hesitate about using it in the early hours, for fear of annoying the neighbours.

 

[Muse]

Why are juicers so expensive??

Because they want your money, short answer.

I scored a 600watt Osterizer blender from Costco at a good price some years ago, well under $100. Not many settings, but powerful enough. I stopped using it, actually, in favor of another Osterizer blender, 450watt, IIRC, but powerful enough for my smoothies, etc. It has a lot more buttons and switches. I stick with Osterizers because I've burned out a number of other manufacturer's blenders, don't remember burning out an Osterizer. Also, I have a terrific attachment that works with Osterizers that grinds meat.

I have a machine that will make carrot juice but leave it in a cabinet, some former roommate left it here. Another former roommate left an electric citrus juicer, which I use to extract the juice from lemons occasionally. It works fantastic. I see fancy expensive blender systems at Costco but never give them a look. Why spend $300 for something when I'm satisfied with what I have?

 

[Captante]

I find my £20 smoothie-maker works perfectly well for me. I suspect eating whole fruit is better for you though.

Though it is true I hesitate about using it in the early hours, for fear of annoying the neighbours.

How do you feel about necro-juice?

 

[Captante]

I find my £20 smoothie-maker works perfectly well for me. I suspect eating whole fruit is better for you though.

Though it is true I hesitate about using it in the early hours, for fear of annoying the neighbours.

Juicers are a waste of money and trash the nutritional value of the fruit you put through them. *(per Consumer Reports AND personal experience)

Not only does the majority of healthy fiber end up in the garbage can, vitamins and mineral levels are reduced in the process leaving you with a massive dose of readily absorbed sugar and not much else.

Then factor in the electricity and the time wasted cleaning and prepping the fruit and the sticky mess afterwards.... they are just not worth it.


EDIT: To be fair smoothie-makers/blenders are far better then juicers since much more of the fiber remains IN the drink but they are still extremely high in sugar unless you use mainly veggies.

 

[pmv]

Juicers are a waste of money and trash the nutritional value of the fruit you put through them. *(per Consumer Reports AND personal experience)

Not only does the majority of healthy fiber end up in the garbage can, vitamins and mineral levels are reduced in the process leaving you with a massive dose of readily absorbed sugar and not much else.

Then factor in the electricity and the time wasted cleaning and prepping the fruit and the sticky mess afterwards.... they are just not worth it.


EDIT: To be fair smoothie-makers/blenders are far better then juicers since much more of the fiber remains IN the drink but they are still extremely high in sugar unless you use mainly veggies.

I used to only eat whole fruit (and lots of it), till (living up to stereotypes of British people) I lost 2 teeth within two years due to old-root-canaled teeth finally giving-up the-ghost and breaking. That was the moment I bought a blender, as eating whole fruit then meant constantly being reminded of my sad failure to look after my molars.

Quibbling slightly, though, smoothies are no higher in sugar than the fruit that goes into them - the issue, as I understand it, is that the chomping process of the smoothie-maker, makes that sugar much more rapidly-accessible to your digestive system, thus increasing the size of the sugar 'spike' you get - with whole fruit it's like a time-release sugar-hit, so your pancreas doesn't have to work so hard. And, as I say, what puzzles me is that that would surely imply that you are better off not chewing your fruit and veg fully before swallowing it, thus making your digestive system do more work to release the sugars.

 

[Captante]

I used to only eat whole fruit (and lots of it), till (living up to stereotypes of British people) I lost 2 teeth within two years due to old-root-canaled teeth finally giving-up the-ghost and breaking. That was the moment I bought a blender, as eating whole fruit then meant constantly being reminded of my sad failure to look after my molars.

Wow .... bummer!

I've actually had several older folks advise me to skip any suggested root-canals and just have dead teeth extracted.

So far I've been lucky but I'm expecting to need a bunch of expensive dental work myself soon. (will need a fixed-bridge replaced in my lowers)

 

[Kaido]

Because they want your money, short answer.

I scored a 600watt Osterizer blender from Costco at a good price some years ago, well under $100. Not many settings, but powerful enough. I stopped using it, actually, in favor of another Osterizer blender, 450watt, IIRC, but powerful enough for my smoothies, etc. It has a lot more buttons and switches. I stick with Osterizers because I've burned out a number of other manufacturer's blenders, don't remember burning out an Osterizer. Also, I have a terrific attachment that works with Osterizers that grinds meat.

I have a machine that will make carrot juice but leave it in a cabinet, some former roommate left it here. Another former roommate left an electric citrus juicer, which I use to extract the juice from lemons occasionally. It works fantastic. I see fancy expensive blender systems at Costco but never give them a look. Why spend $300 for something when I'm satisfied with what I have?

As far as pricing goes, FWIW I invested in a $400 Blendtec back in 2007 (15 years ago...yikes!). Still going strong & still use it 3 to 4 times a week for smoothies, whisking eggs in bulk, making homemade sauces, etc. I burned through like 3 blenders before getting it. That video of the dude blending the rake is what sold me on it:

 

[Captante]

As far as pricing goes, FWIW I invested in a $400 Blendtec back in 2007 (15 years ago...yikes!). Still going strong & still use it 3 to 4 times a week for smoothies, whisking eggs in bulk, making homemade sauces, etc. I burned through like 3 blenders before getting it. That video of the dude blending the rake is what sold me on it:

I especially enjoyed them blending an iphone X!

 

[Muse]

Wow .... bummer!

I've actually had several older folks advise me to skip any suggested root-canals and just have dead teeth extracted.

So far I've been lucky but I'm expecting to need a bunch of expensive dental work myself soon. (will need a fixed-bridge replaced in my lowers)

I was sent to what I believe to be an exceptional endodontist for my root canal by my decades long dentist, who retired just before the pandemic. That endodontist bragged to me at the time (12 years ago) that he'd done a root canal on the chancellor of U.C. Berkeley, which is right up the street. I was sent to him again 2 months ago by my new dentist (the most favored by far in a Nextdoor thread on dentists here), and he took x-rays including a panoramic and did a 2nd root canal on me about a week later. It went very smoothly. A few days after TG he did an oral surgical procedure on the same tooth, which will hopefully save it. He says he's had very good follow-ups on similar work he's done up to 5 years ago, so he's pretty confident it will work (if it doesn't, I can get an implant). The guy who worked on it 6 years ago had no such confidence and sure enough the tooth's resorption had resumed (found that out when I saw my new dentist for the first time about 10 weeks ago), which is the reason for the recent root canal followed by the oral surgery. The gum has pretty much healed now, so I'm upbeat about it. It's an upper canine. I'll see the guy in a year to have it checked on. He's emphasized to me that he's the exceptional endodontist who uses an actual microscope while he works. It enables him to see exactly what he's doing. Most of those guys, he tells me, do not use a microscope. They likely use binocular headgear with maybe 6x magnification.

 

[pmv]

Wow .... bummer!

I've actually had several older folks advise me to skip any suggested root-canals and just have any dead teeth extracted.

So far I've been lucky but I'm expecting to need a bunch of expensive dental work myself soon. (will need a fixed-bridge replaced in my lowers)

Well, to be fair, they lasted about 25 years. But I didn't realise that it's not a permanent solution, eventually that dead tooth is going to break.

I'm still suffering from a disastrous backpacking trip around India. Several months of non-stop stomach problems, and being scared to drink the water, so living mostly on sugar-laden bottled drinks (particularly remember chugging back "fruit beer - non-alcoholic, contains no fruit"). When I got back I'd lost about four stone and had to have 6 fillings and two root-canals.

 

[Captante]

Well, to be fair, they lasted about 25 years. But I didn't realise that it's not a permanent solution, eventually that dead tooth is going to break.

I'm still suffering from a disastrous backpacking trip around India. Several months of non-stop stomach problems, and being scared to drink the water, so living mostly on sugar-laden bottled drinks (particularly remember chugging back "fruit beer - non-alcoholic, contains no fruit"). When I got back I'd lost about four stone and had to have 6 fillings and two root-canals.

I had a similar experience after swallowing a TINY drop of swimming pool water in Cancun on a cruise stop-over.

Fortunately I was fully over it in less then 24 hours but only because I have a stomach like a billy-goat... or at least I did back then!

 

[MrSquished]

I just use a nutri bullet, blend organic frozen fruit like cherries and berries, along with Greek yogurt and honey. Then I add in some collagen peptides powder as well as this stuff, occasionally I'll add in some protein powder

 

[Red Squirrel]

The key to juicing is to buy a very expensive masticating juicer, then buy all the vegetables you need to juice and run large batches at a time, then realize it's a lot of work and expensive and the juices don't taste that great and put it away and never use it again.

 

[Shmee]

I like juices. I often mix mine with sparkling water.

 

[snoopy7548]

I was sent to what I believe to be an exceptional endodontist for my root canal by my decades long dentist, who retired just before the pandemic. That endodontist bragged to me at the time (12 years ago) that he'd done a root canal on the chancellor of U.C. Berkeley, which is right up the street. I was sent to him again 2 months ago by my new dentist (the most favored by far in a Nextdoor thread on dentists here), and he took x-rays including a panoramic and did a 2nd root canal on me about a week later. It went very smoothly. A few days after TG he did an oral surgical procedure on the same tooth, which will hopefully save it. He says he's had very good follow-ups on similar work he's done up to 5 years ago, so he's pretty confident it will work. The guy who worked on it 6 years ago had no such confidence and sure enough the tooth's resorption had resumed, which is the reason for the root canal followed by the oral surgery. The gum has pretty much healed now, so I'm upbeat about it. It's an upper canine. I'll see the guy in a year to have it checked on. He's emphasized to me that he's the exceptional endodontist who uses an actual microscope while he works. It enables him to see exactly what he's doing. Most of those guys, he tells me, do not use a microscope. They likely use binocular headgear with maybe 6x magnification.

"Nurse, is it just me or is this guy's teeth really small?"
"Doctor, your binoculars are backwards."
"Dang it, not again! Well, let's get drillin'!"