For the nth time, I'm gonna try to play Baldur's Gate 2.

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s44

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
If I was to play through the first game with a party and then solo through the second game, will I be behind level/xp wise?
No. You level up much faster in the second game anyway -- if you dual, for example, you'll get back your first class' worth of levels hilariously fast.
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
you're evil ;)

dude, they cap a monk's resistance :( :( i've maxed out at 83 resist magic :| (26*3 = 78 from monk levels, +5 from an amulet)

will the BG2 XP tweak allow me to continue my monk's ascendance to godhood? i could have sworn ToB (which i do have installed, i'm just still in SoA) allowed my monk to get 90+ MR

if my progression stopped at level 26... i'm 7 levels overboard already. currently lvl 33, just cleared out the beholder lair in the underdark :(

No, a Monk doesn't increase natural magic resistance beyond 78% (at lvl 26), as you wrote. Here's a nice table of progression with "things" for all the classes:

Clicky

Basically, after lvl26 only your AC will improve (and 2hp per level more). But 78% natural MR is crazy high... A Shapeshifter has 40% natural MR plus 50% elemental resistance and that's a bit imba :p You can get Kangaxx's ring for +10% more (so have a total of 93% - crazy for a regular game :D). But I think that's it for an unmodded game.

Remember you got a very low natural AC anyway - you'r'e a god already, almost invunerable to magic and extremely hard to hit :) And can insta-gib stuff :p
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Qbah
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
you're evil ;)

dude, they cap a monk's resistance :( :( i've maxed out at 83 resist magic :| (26*3 = 78 from monk levels, +5 from an amulet)

will the BG2 XP tweak allow me to continue my monk's ascendance to godhood? i could have sworn ToB (which i do have installed, i'm just still in SoA) allowed my monk to get 90+ MR

if my progression stopped at level 26... i'm 7 levels overboard already. currently lvl 33, just cleared out the beholder lair in the underdark :(

No, a Monk doesn't increase natural magic resistance beyond 78% (at lvl 26), as you wrote. Here's a nice table of progression with "things" for all the classes:

Clicky

Basically, after lvl26 only your AC will improve (and 2hp per level more). But 78% natural MR is crazy high... A Shapeshifter has 40% natural MR plus 50% elemental resistance and that's a bit imba :p You can get Kangaxx's ring for +10% more (so have a total of 93% - crazy for a regular game :D). But I think that's it for an unmodded game.

Remember you got a very low natural AC anyway - you'r'e a god already, almost invunerable to magic and extremely hard to hit :) And can insta-gib stuff :p

while i am sad to see the level cap is 40 (which i am nearing, but I can always use the XP tweak), i am very glad to see my fists are now +4 weapons. kangaxx is going to get a beatdown! normally when i fight him, my monk only has +3, so kangaxx is immune. no more :D

i really wanted 100% magic immunity though. i makes the monk that much more of a god :p
 

Dorkenstein

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Well, I have already started a game in EasyTutu with the fixes applied, is it too late to install SCS?
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Well, I have already started a game in EasyTutu with the fixes applied, is it too late to install SCS?

SCS can be applied at any time, at least to my knowledge. That's how I did it the first time I was using it. Think I was around chapter 4 when I installed it. Didn't experience any problems. As long as SCS supports TuTu, I'd say you're good to go.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Qbah
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
oooooh man that sounds nasty :D

just Quivering Palm'ed Firkaag as well!! dragon hunting season is officially open :D

Firkraag is the second toughest enemy in an unmodded BG2, next after Kangaxx. Nice :D Remember to kill Adalon, the white dragon - your collection will be complete :p And that dragon near the end - though this one's a pussy since you're packing quite a punch at this stage.

Actually, what I did, I gave Adalon the eggs - she was so happy about it that she teleported me to the exit, started to kill some enemies to help me out and I just attacked her then and ripped her to shreads :D Yeah, I'm a mean mofo :p Got her scales and completed Human Flesh - not that I use it :p
One time I got lucky and one-shot-killed Firkaag with a Disintegrate spell from Edwin.
I didnt think it would work. I got everybody around him for a friendly force attack, and had Edwin cast Disintegrate just to see if it would do some damage. Ended up killing the bastard, but I lost out on some good loot. None of the really important stuff disappeared, but some of the misc goodies he has werent there.
Reloaded and did it again without Disintegrate. I always thought the special dragons in BG2 were supposed to be immune to that.

 

Fenixgoon

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fenix the monk is now level 40 and about to enter the elf city.
I have solo'd firkaag, the shadow dragon, and kangaxx among the notables.

current AC is -12. THAC0 is -10. 140hp. 18 greater whirlwinds per day. yeah, don't fuck with me ;)



edit:

Fenix the Monk just stomped Irenicus' ass at level 41.

AC of -14
THAC0 of -10
93 magic resist
20 greater whirlwinds per day

Irenicus only managed to successfully use Maze on me once during the fight at the tree.

Now.. on to ToB solo? :Q
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
fenix the monk is now level 40 and about to enter the elf city.
I have solo'd firkaag, the shadow dragon, and kangaxx among the notables.

current AC is -12. THAC0 is -10. 140hp. 18 greater whirlwinds per day. yeah, don't fuck with me ;)



edit:

Fenix the Monk just stomped Irenicus' ass at level 41.

AC of -14
THAC0 of -10
93 magic resist
20 greater whirlwinds per day

Irenicus only managed to successfully use Maze on me once during the fight at the tree.

Now.. on to ToB solo? :Q

Grats :) Thing is, nothing in an unmodded ToB will pose a challenge to you at lvl41. You might as well do it for the story :) Because you will pwn everything without breaking a sweat :D
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
One time I got lucky and one-shot-killed Firkaag with a Disintegrate spell from Edwin.
I didnt think it would work. I got everybody around him for a friendly force attack, and had Edwin cast Disintegrate just to see if it would do some damage. Ended up killing the bastard, but I lost out on some good loot. None of the really important stuff disappeared, but some of the misc goodies he has werent there.
Reloaded and did it again without Disintegrate. I always thought the special dragons in BG2 were supposed to be immune to that.

Well, dragons are just another type of creatures in Faerun. Sure, they can cast magic, have high hp and very high magic resistance and low saving throws, but that doesn't mean they're invincible. You can get lucky with the dragon failing a saving throw or the spell not taking MR into account.

Take Kangaxx for example - he's a demi-lich, immune to all normal and up to +3 weapons and all spells lvl8 and lower. Also, has 90% to every damage type immunity - so you do 1-4 dmg to him. Chain casts improsonment with no spell delay 4 times a round (this spell ignores MR and saving throws and is ranged for Kangaxx only), also remove magic, summons a pit fiend and pops in a teleport field which means you maybe get one hit a round if you manage to get close enough :D Luckily he has like 80-100 hp :p That's with Tactics though :p That is a true god :D I only managed to solo him, can't imagine how to kill him with a party and not loose the other 5 people :p But if you get lucky with this palm thingie you can probably insta-gib him in Demi-lich form :)
 

Dorkenstein

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Should I play through BG1 as a plain old fighter and then step up to a fighter kit like kensai or something when I hit BG2? Or is it better to go as the same class all the way through in this instance? Thanks. It's been too long since I played this kind of game, I am getting beat on pretty bad.
 

Dorkenstein

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In BG2, is there some reason why the Duergar fighters/magicians keep respawning near me when I rest in Irenicus Dungeon in the very beginning? It takes me enough trouble to kill the pesky mages with their mind control, but then when I rest and move they are back.
 

Qbah

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Better in what way, Dorkenstein? Your char in BG1 gets a boost to each stat from special books. Combine it with another +1 boost from Watcher's Keep and you get a total +2 to all stats. If you start a new char in BG2, obviously this bonus will be lost (so only a total of +1). If you play the first part with TuTu, you can go whichever class you like. What do you think is a "cool" profession? Answer that and play the game. You will beat it regardless of your choice.

For soloing there are better and worse classes. You can hardly expect to solo the game as a mage or a cleric. What you need it a heavy hitter with lots of HP - like a Kensai/Mage dual (didn't try this one myself), a Shapeshifter (with Weimer's Fix - a lot of fun! :D) or a FMT (Fighter/Mage/Thief multi-class) - the last one becomes a one man army as he will be able to use all items (Thief HLA), drop deadly traps (also Thief HLA), get Whirlwind/Critical Blow attacks (Fighter HLA), get a temp boost to physical dmg resistance (this one's crazy :p - Fighter HLA) and cast deadly lvl10 spells (Dragon Breath - Mage HLA - deadly). With proper items you can make a lot of spells almost instant cast (add Finger of Death, Abi-Zail-something-more-here spells, Death Spell, etc :D) which means you will dish out crazy amounts of damage in a round.

So, to sum up, just think which class do you think sounds cool and just play :)

EDIT: As for Irenicus' Dungeon... did you install Tactics? :D Cause I remember those pesky duergar from the Tactics mod as in a regular game there wereo nly goblins (one-shot'ers) and only a few groups of duergars.
 

Dorkenstein

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Ahh, yup, I installed Tactics. Probably more than I can handle, but do those duergar keep re-spawning? Thanks.
 

DefDC

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Argh... I just played through BG2 again a few months ago. Now I wanna play again and solo through... :)
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Ahh, yup, I installed Tactics. Probably more than I can handle, but do those duergar keep re-spawning? Thanks.

Yep, they'll be repoping randomly. Ilych in Tactics is a monster... his duergar team has a priest that immediately summons a Fallen Deva (that's a 3M exp HLA of priests/mages) - it's almost impossible to kill those guys with a 90k-ish exp group. And you probably met the golem that spawns when you trigger the alarm? :p

The Tactics mod is for people that really know BG2 inside-out. Though some of the elements make for a more enjoyable experience even for people with less game experience. I'd suggest you install most of it only if you finished the game at least once-twice.
 

Dorkenstein

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Originally posted by: Qbah
Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Ahh, yup, I installed Tactics. Probably more than I can handle, but do those duergar keep re-spawning? Thanks.

Yep, they'll be repoping randomly. Ilych in Tactics is a monster... his duergar team has a priest that immediately summons a Fallen Deva (that's a 3M exp HLA of priests/mages) - it's almost impossible to kill those guys with a 90k-ish exp group. And you probably met the golem that spawns when you trigger the alarm? :p

The Tactics mod is for people that really know BG2 inside-out. Though some of the elements make for a more enjoyable experience even for people with less game experience. I'd suggest you install most of it only if you finished the game at least once-twice.

Hmm, well, I don't think it can be uninstalled. I'd have to re-install everything, so I think I am going to try and stick with it. I beat the game once about 8 years ago. I am playing as an inquisitor right now, any more powerful melee options? Also, what is the best weapon type in the game? Thanks.
 

Qbah

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Hmm, well, I don't think it can be uninstalled. I'd have to re-install everything, so I think I am going to try and stick with it. I beat the game once about 8 years ago. I am playing as an inquisitor right now, any more powerful melee options? Also, what is the best weapon type in the game? Thanks.

More powerful as in class? Any fighter kit will dish out more dmg (cause they get an extra attack with 5 profficiency points). However a paladin is no weaksauce, so don't worry. Weapon would be the Carsomyr - best weapon in the game imo. Only for Paladins too, so you will be able to use it. There's also a nice katana, Celestial Fury.

And you can easily uninstall Tactics at any time, if you will find it too hard :)
 

Dorkenstein

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Okay, I thought that mods were harder to uninstall than that. I really want to get better at the game tactically so I think I will try to tough it out with Tactics installed. I just wish that when I beat a duergar team and rested they wouldn't come back immediately. Thanks.