For the nth time, I'm gonna try to play Baldur's Gate 2.

dennilfloss

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I just installed BG2 again and will give it another try. Been about three years since my last attempt when I gave up after ~20hours. I just took a couple of minutes to roll myself a nice little tankette, then dismissed everyone else in the party. Let's see how she can manage alone (and getting all the experience). Hack & slash time!

http://www.imagebam.com/image/86ed6724008586

The isometric view is really straining my poor eyesight though and the written stuff is so small.:(

At least it's working in Windows XP. :)
 

Dorkenstein

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I've had the same problem as you in a way. I have beaten the game before, but when I tried to install mods and not have the game crash, it's a no-go and I uninstalled it. Great game though!
 

AmberClad

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As you just playing it as is? Or with the widescreen mod?

The G3 widescreen mod sort of breathes new life into these older games (BG2, IWD, PS:T, etc).
 

DaveSimmons

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What class did you pick?

A solo figter / barbarian is going to be almost impossible, because tactical spellcastimg is a key part of mini-boss combats.

You'll be held, charmed, time-stopped, etc. while your opponent cooks and freezes you then pelts you with meteors.
 

DaveSimmons

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If you didn't pick a class with built-in magic resistance then keep your eye out for artifacts that grant it, you'll live a little longer. Also, buy boots of speed as soon as you find them, so you can rush the spellcasters.

Unfortunately you're going to miss all of the companion-based sidequests, so even if you survive you'll only get to play part of the game.
 

dennilfloss

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That's ok. This is just to tidy me over for a while. :D

As for side quests, I missed tons of them in Morrowind and Oblivion too. In fact, I never did try to solve the main Oblivion quest in the last two years. I just enjoy exploring dungeons/caves, killing monsters and gaining loot. Don't give a damn if the rest of the world burns in flames (notice my character's alignment).

As for mages, that's when it's good to retreat to favourable ground and have them follow you in a kill zone. :evil:
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
What class did you pick?

A solo figter / barbarian is going to be almost impossible, because tactical spellcastimg is a key part of mini-boss combats.

You'll be held, charmed, time-stopped, etc. while your opponent cooks and freezes you then pelts you with meteors.
Shizzle.

I have heard so many times that folks think a mega-powered fighter is going to beat the game solo.
Without cheating it never happens.
The first demi-lich you see is going to waste you.
Same for most regular liches, dragons, and regular mages of a high level.

They have too many contingency and chain-contingency spells set up for an instant kill.
But they can instant kill you with a bunch of different spells.
 

Ika

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If you want to do solo through Throne of Bhaal, a multi fighter/thief is definitely the way to go. After you get HLAs, thieves get Use Any Item. If you dual over from a Kensai at level 13 or so, you'll be able to bypass the armor/bracer requirements.

Personally, though, after I finish my current evil party game, I'm going to do a solo SoA/ToB runthrough with a fighter/thief/mage. I'm really looking forward to the fighter/thief dynamic, and the mage spells are just for taking out annoying Protection from Magical Weapons. I love melee tanking!
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
I have heard so many times that folks think a mega-powered fighter is going to beat the game solo.
Without cheating it never happens.
The first demi-lich you see is going to waste you.
Same for most regular liches, dragons, and regular mages of a high level.

They have too many contingency and chain-contingency spells set up for an instant kill.
But they can instant kill you with a bunch of different spells.
Yep, mages are highly overpowered in BG2 and Throne of Bhaal (which is why I love playing them in that game). The chain contingencies that set up spell protections or Protection Against Normal/Magical Weapons are going to be tough to deal with as a pure fighter. An Inquisitor or Wizard Slayer might be workable -- haven't done solo myself. Also, you have to deal with the Time Stop --> Gate or other 9th level spells tactic they use.
 

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
I just took a couple of minutes to roll myself a nice little tankette, then dismissed everyone else in the party. Let's see how she can manage alone

Why would you do this? You miss out on some of the best parts of the game? Its like going to a bar & grill and spending the entire night eating chicken wings and drinking beer in the bath room stall.
 

Dorkenstein

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I have ALWAYS sucked at playing a spellcaster. Might be time to push myself to improve. That is, if I can get the mods to play nice.
 

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i always liked Icewind Dale/BG, great/classic games.

solo is definitely hard. i like it cause it gives it more of a diablo-esque feel to the game, but a big party is a definite plus
 

dennilfloss

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Well, my pure fighter has escaped the first dungeon and killed 92 foes in the process (gained a level too). She came close to death a couple of times because I was a bit slow in having her drink potions of healing. Armour class is a reasonable -2 but I need to find her a nice magical zweihander. I seem to remember a demon having one nearby.

I know my guide is packed up in a box somewhere so I'll have to make do with online walkthroughs if I get stuck.

Unfortunately I have to play at 800x600 and use my monitor scaling because I get the infamous crash-to-desktop-when-placing-sword-in-inventory-slot at nonsupported resolutions.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/b4508924068136

I am slowly warming up to the isometric view.
 

dennilfloss

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Originally posted by: BateluerWhy would you do this? You miss out on some of the best parts of the game? Its like going to a bar & grill and spending the entire night eating chicken wings and drinking beer in the bath room stall.

I can always do this on replay. I just want to see what a lone pure fighter will do.

 

Dumac

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For some reason I could never get past the first dungeon. I don't know why BG2 is so difficult to me. Also, I have no clue what the hell is going on.

I've played similar games, but I just can't get into or succeed at BG2, which is a shame since everyone praises it.
 

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Originally posted by: Dumac
For some reason I could never get past the first dungeon. I don't know why BG2 is so difficult to me. Also, I have no clue what the hell is going on.

I've played similar games, but I just can't get into or succeed at BG2, which is a shame since everyone praises it.

same here.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Dumac
For some reason I could never get past the first dungeon. I don't know why BG2 is so difficult to me. Also, I have no clue what the hell is going on.

I've played similar games, but I just can't get into or succeed at BG2, which is a shame since everyone praises it.
I dont mean this in an insulting way BUT, even though BG2 is assloads of fun its not for everybody.

Its about the closest thing you will get to sitting down for a traditional Dungeons & Dragons session except on a computer instead of a kitchen table.

Most folks dont get or cant handle the gameplay of tabletop D&D roleplaying, and since the Baldurs Gate games recreate this experience so well they arent as popular as they could be.

You should consider playing the tutorial. I would suggest reading the manual but nobody does that anymore. Unfortunately BG2 is so close to the book rules that you really need to understand them to understand the video game.
This is NOT turn-based Diablo, despite the visual similarities. You need to understand attack rolls, saving throws, the advanatages & limitations of the magic system, teamwork and proper theiving. You dont just run through hacking and slashing everything until you get the treasure.
Each dungeon is a huge adventure. If you play it right it should take you a very long time. Going through one room at a time, checking for traps, preparing for possible monster encounters and interacting with the puzzles: these are all important and well-planned events. The designers actually put a ton of effort into the game. Which is one of the reasons we havent seen anything similar since.
The monster encounters are not Final Fantasy grinds for XP & gold. Each one is like a mini-wargame. You plan what you are going to do and execute it. Periodically you evaluate the situation and modify your plans.
Thats what most people cant handle, the slow pace of the more involved battles. It looks like Diablo so they think it should play like Diablo.
BG1 & 2 arent like most other games. If its your first time you really do have to learn a whole new way of playing. If you grew up with so-called RPG's like Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy (like I did) it will be a bit of a learning curve.


Try the tutorial. It may seem simple but it helps to get you started on the game system. Also, for your first game you should seriously consider taking the difficulty down to minimum.

I usually recommend a Fighter or one of the fighter kits for a first time player. If you havent beaten the game yet you are still a first time player.
Dont worry, you will recruit plenty of mages during the course of the game. But your main character needs survivability.

And dont feel bad about the first dungeon, its actually one of the most complicated in the game but the monsters are relatively easy. Its set up to teach you how to complete quests and practice your dungeon-crawling skills. The biggest one is keeping your "Detect Traps" active as often as possible. When you find Yoshimo this wont be a problem.
 

Via

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Why not play the original Baldur's gate first?

I know it's missing a few features that BG 2 added but on the whole I had more fun with that one than with the sequel.

The game is balanced much better than BG 2 IMO.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
I dont mean this in an insulting way BUT, even though BG2 is assloads of fun its not for everybody.

Its about the closest thing you will get to sitting down for a traditional Dungeons & Dragons session except on a computer instead of a kitchen table.
Temple of Elemental Evil felt quite a bit more true to the pen and paper game to me.
 

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Bg2 is the best pc game ever created. I just started up a new game for the nth time too.

The widescreen mod is nice but....god is there a way to icrease font size. I go blurry eyed trying to read !

Having ton of fun, mods breathe new life into an old cla ssic.

This time around I made 3 custom chars - beserker, archer, wild mage. I want to experience npc stuff.... but having 5 of them at once is just too much banter and quests thrown in my face at once.

I DID use level 1 npc mod to make imoen a swash buckler- yet to bust her outa spell hold. anxious to ditch yoshimo.

fun stuff