For the Live Axle Hater/s out there...

dug777

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lol

Ford falcon wagons (big family wagon) have leaf springs on the back still ;)
 

Dr. Detroit

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I attended that race yesterday at Laguna-Seca. Was an awesome race and the Mustangs did very well.

SCCA tends to get all the cars in the calss to run pretty even so I'm wondering if the '05 Mustang hasn't been as penalized by SCCA as the older modles in the GS class like the 911 Porsche BMW M3 & CTS-V.

The scenario above is being played out in the GT class after Caddies dominance with their CTS-V's last year. They were penalzied heavily.

FYI a 2003 Cobra qualified 4th and ran in the top five until it blew it's trans. The only '03 Cobra to finish ran 11th.


 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: dug777
lol

Ford falcon wagons (big family wagon) have leaf springs on the back still ;)

apparently so do corvettes. and a stock corvette went around top gear's test track in the same time as a 575M, though the (completely biased) guys on top gear made it sound as if the 'vette was just another car.

i wonder if they'll ever get a Z06?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Uh, that's just stupid.
The cars that run that series have very little in common with a stock Mustang, including your 'stone age suspension.
Multimatic Motorsports Mustang

iirc, a 3 link with panhard bar is the street mustang's setup
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Uh, that's just stupid.
The cars that run that series have very little in common with a stock Mustang, including your 'stone age suspension.
Multimatic Motorsports Mustang

iirc, a 3 link with panhard bar is the street mustang's setup

Well, then I'm just stupid :p

j/k, I stand corrected. Has to be new parts involved there--adjustable coilovers? Doesn't seem stock to me. How much modification is allowed in this series?
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Uh, that's just stupid.
The cars that run that series have very little in common with a stock Mustang, including your 'stone age suspension.
Multimatic Motorsports Mustang

iirc, a 3 link with panhard bar is the street mustang's setup

Well, then I'm just stupid :p

j/k, I stand corrected. Has to be new parts involved there--adjustable coilovers? Doesn't seem stock to me. How much modification is allowed in this series?


You can't poop on my parade :D. I never claimed it was stock. In fact, Road and Track did a review and the Multimatic Motorsports car is the same as the GT-R listed. My stock '05 GT has better acceleration numbers, of course the GT-R handles better. We share the same 3-link rear. You think the BMW M3's and Porsche 996's and 997's were stock too? :confused:

Whatever dude. All I know all the haters slam the 'stang for not being able to handle. Well, this is no longer the case. The technology may be old, but it is proven and cost effective.

All the IRS fanbois can bite me :thumbsup:
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If it aint broke dont fix it ;)
Cough cough GM cough cough getting rid of the camero/TA line for a overweighted POS PU with a high HP engine and no balls :p WTF were they thinking???
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If it aint broke dont fix it ;)
Cough cough GM cough cough getting rid of the camero/TA line for a overweighted POS PU with a high HP engine and no balls :p WTF were they thinking???


Amen brudda! :thumbsup:

At least GM didn't mess up the Corvette. Another case of old, but proven technology:
Pushrods in the LS1/LS2 engines, and leaf springs in the rear. The C6 'vette would have been my car of choice if I could have gotten a deal on one.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

hell ya that new stang is a beast...
cant wait to see them road race the 500hp shelby
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If you had the choice, what would you choose:
1.a well sorted out solid read axle
2.a well sorted out fully independent suspension?

I would choose the irs.
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If you had the choice, what would you choose:
1.a well sorted out solid read axle
2.a well sorted out fully independent suspension?

I would choose the irs.


See you at the finish line then :D
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If you had the choice, what would you choose:
1.a well sorted out solid read axle
2.a well sorted out fully independent suspension?

I would choose the irs.


See you at the finish line then :D

If the Mustang was available with an irs as an option would you choose the solid axle rear end?

 

JulesMaximus

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Yeah, but it's still a Ford. :D

I keed, I keed! I actually like the new Mustang, it's good to see them whomp on that German crap.
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If you had the choice, what would you choose:
1.a well sorted out solid read axle
2.a well sorted out fully independent suspension?

I would choose the irs.


See you at the finish line then :D

If the Mustang was available with an irs as an option would you choose the solid axle rear end?

IRS was available in the past - It's known as the 2003/2004 Mustang Cobra...and they finished 12th in this particular Gran-Am race :D So the answer is no. Even Carol Shelby knows that the 3 link rear is good enough and is using in the '07 Shelby Cobra Mustang.

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
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Not bad for a car that has a suspension from the 'stone age :D :D :D
Tough luck BMW and Porsche fanbois ;)

If you had the choice, what would you choose:
1.a well sorted out solid read axle
2.a well sorted out fully independent suspension?

I would choose the irs.


See you at the finish line then :D

If the Mustang was available with an irs as an option would you choose the solid axle rear end?

IRS was available in the past - It's known as the 2003/2004 Mustang Cobra...and they finished 12th in this particular Gran-Am race :D So the answer is no. Even Carol Shelby knows that the 3 link rear is good enough and is using in the '07 Shelby Cobra Mustang.

The chassis is much better in the '05 Stang though. I'm guessing that's where most of the difference is.
 

datalink7

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My '05 GT just came in! (Just got the call from the dealer). Going to go pick it up after I'm done with school for the day, in about 4 hours (I'm on a lunch break right now).

Going to be the slowest 4 hours ever...