For the last time... TV is NOT a right.

[Budmantom]

Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

It is a right, you idiot.

 

[MonkeyK]

What's the big deal? Do the cut-over. Broadcasters are not going to let lots and lots of potentially ad viewing eyes go unaccounted for.

 

[Pliablemoose]

It could be a right, but there's too much self hate for it to be accepted as a legitimate right.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

It is a right, you idiot.

Mental health care for you.

 

[Viper GTS]

Man lots of short sighted people here. Yes the internet is great and I get 100% of my news from it. But the internet also has some major disadvantages that TV is not subject to. Who remembers trying to get internet news the morning of 9/11? Every major news site was hammered beyond belief. I was stuck at work with no TV, so the internet was my only source - And it was terrible. Keeping TV's working is in the best interest of everyone. And since it's been paid for by the spectrum auction there's absolutely no reason NOT to fund the transition.

I do think they should quit putting it off, what better way to get people to actually convert than to kill their TV?

Viper GTS

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/0...gital.delay/index.html

Is it me or some people just can't let go of the TV for even one minute? Come on.. people should know that the digital TV switch is happening for quite a while yet they are too lazy to go to store and buy a new TV or a converter box. TV is not TV so why should people expect to get the converter box is free. Government is never obligated to ensure everyone have access to a TV. You got a coupon? Good for you but people are taking it for granted that they deserve the right for TV. Or is it the parents are too used to let the TV to be the baby sitter and they are worry they actually NEED to start parenting if the TV is out temporarily.

Enough with right and fair. If you want those right, EARN it. There is no such thing call free lunch, even a high school student should understand that. If people have no money for converter box and no money for newspaper, they can always to go a public library and read free newspaper. Don't made other people suffer for your mistake.

Televisions are not free, correct. However, the FCC determined long ago that the public airwaves are public domain, and thus owned by the public. We allow broadcasters to use these public airwaves in exchange for licensing fees and a contract stipulating that they will adhere to certain specific guidelines regarding the content they are allowed to show (it's why the FCC can levy fines against broadcasters for obscenity). But even though there are broadcasters currently occupying the specific bandwidth available in the airwaves, it has long been the contention of the FCC, indeed it was the principle that the FCC was established on, that the public owns the airwaves.

So, when the FCC decided it was going to change the way the airwaves were being used, it was fundamentally changing something that was officially owned by the public; all of us. Now the spectrum of the public airwaves occupied by over-the-air television broadcasting would be sold to telecommunications companies for use as wireless internet, and the broadcast television would switch to a new spectrum of available airwaves reserved for digital signal transmission. When this change was mandated it was a fundamental restructuring of airwaves owned by the public, and thus it was the government's responsibility to ensure that citizens who owned devices that would be negatively impacted by the change in the redistribution of public airwaves would be duly compensated so their devices would be in compliance with the new standards. This all goes back to the fundamental purpose of the FCC; the administration of public airwaves.

So while the government may not owe us all television sets, we all own the airwaves that the government is using and licensing to private broadcasters for television. This is why we get coupons for converter boxes to allow our current televisions to receive broadcasts along the new spectrum made available for television. The FCC made a fundamental change in the way broadcasting would be done with our airwaves, it is on them to compensate us appropriately to ensure our devices still function as they should.

But I can't believe just how much of a fuckup this whole thing has been. People not knowing about the switch to digital? And I wonder just how many people with cable or satellite or with HDTVs that have digital tuners built in are ordering these boxes when they just don't need them.... The ignorance is truly staggering, and it's not solely the fault of the consumers.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099

Is it me or some people just can't let go of the TV for even one minute?

It's you. At this point, TV is like a phone or a radio. It's a form of PUBLIC utility with important communication functions far beyond entertainment, and the law states that the airwaves are a PUBLIC resource that broadcasters are licensed to use in the PUBLIC interest.

Legally mandating the switch to digital TV was right and necessary as a catalyst to bring our entire broadcast system into the 21st century. The course is set. It WILL happen, but there's nothing wrong with making some fine adjustments in the schedule to make it easier for those who can least afford the cost of the change.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/0...gital.delay/index.html

Is it me?

Yes

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

It is a right, you idiot.

No, it's not.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

It is a right, you idiot.

No, it's not.

Then tell them to keep all their fracking TV signals the hell off my property.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

It is a right, you idiot.

No, it's not.

Then tell them to keep all their fracking TV signals the hell off my property.

Exactly, I have a right to my signal even if it goes through your property. I have a right to TV.

 

[Skitzer]

Seriously, who the hell wastes their time in front of a TV set?
I own 1 TV and it rarely gets turned on. I have better things to do with my free time than vegetate in front of it.
Ok, maybe you catch the weather or a little news but can't you get that from a radio?
If you're that hooked on Television and you haven't got a cable/digital ready set ...... go out and buy your own damn converter box.
I don't think I should have to pay for your nasty habit.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

You're not paying a dime. I swear this topic brings out the ignoramuses and assholes like no other I've seen. TV is not a right! Government handout! I'm not paying for your TV!

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I swear this topic brings out the ignoramuses and assholes like no other I've seen.

Et to Brute

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I swear this topic brings out the ignoramuses and assholes like no other I've seen.

Et to Brute

Pay no attention to that raving loon. If he paid more than 40 bucks in taxes last year he bought by converter box cause I'm getting me a coupon.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I swear this topic brings out the ignoramuses and assholes like no other I've seen.

Et to Brute

Pay no attention to that raving loon. If he paid more than 40 bucks in taxes last year he bought by converter box cause I'm getting me a coupon.

And if he paid less than $40 in taxes he would be a democrat(in the Obama administration)?

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Man lots of short sighted people here. Yes the internet is great and I get 100% of my news from it. But the internet also has some major disadvantages that TV is not subject to. Who remembers trying to get internet news the morning of 9/11? Every major news site was hammered beyond belief. I was stuck at work with no TV, so the internet was my only source - And it was terrible. Keeping TV's working is in the best interest of everyone. And since it's been paid for by the spectrum auction there's absolutely no reason NOT to fund the transition.

I do think they should quit putting it off, what better way to get people to actually convert than to kill their TV?

Viper GTS

I wonder if anyone has the morning of 9/11 tivo'd? What you'd realize is that there was no news on television either, other than what you already knew when you tried to access the news sites. Here's a summary of everything from that day: video of 2nd plane hitting, report of plane down in PA, report that another hit the pentagon. Video of 2nd plane every 2 1/2 minutes. Towers fell down. Video of plane switched to every other 2 1/2 minutes, video of towers falling every 2 1/2 minutes in between. The rest of the time was nothing but speculation, not facts.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Abortions are a right

Free healthcare is a right.

Housing is a right.

Free food is a right.

Long term unemployment is a right.

So why isn't TV a right?

Do you even pretend to make sense in your own head?

 

[OutHouse]

OP STFU

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090203/od_nm/us_tv_judge

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
Seriously, who the hell wastes their time in front of a TV set?
I own 1 TV and it rarely gets turned on. I have better things to do with my free time than vegetate in front of it.
Ok, maybe you catch the weather or a little news but can't you get that from a radio?
If you're that hooked on Television and you haven't got a cable/digital ready set ...... go out and buy your own damn converter box.
I don't think I should have to pay for your nasty habit.

Maybe that's why you are so uniformed?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
Seriously, who the hell wastes their time in front of a TV set?
I own 1 TV and it rarely gets turned on. I have better things to do with my free time than vegetate in front of it.
Ok, maybe you catch the weather or a little news but can't you get that from a radio?
If you're that hooked on Television and you haven't got a cable/digital ready set ...... go out and buy your own damn converter box.
I don't think I should have to pay for your nasty habit.

:roll: Retard Alert!!! woop woop retard alert

seriously dude that is one of the most ignorant statements ive read on here.


Reading and TV is the only entertainment my 81 year old mother really enjoys. so fuck you and your high horse.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: Citrix
OP STFU

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090203/od_nm/us_tv_judge

That judge is a moron. :laugh:

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Man lots of short sighted people here. Yes the internet is great and I get 100% of my news from it. But the internet also has some major disadvantages that TV is not subject to. Who remembers trying to get internet news the morning of 9/11? Every major news site was hammered beyond belief. I was stuck at work with no TV, so the internet was my only source - And it was terrible. Keeping TV's working is in the best interest of everyone. And since it's been paid for by the spectrum auction there's absolutely no reason NOT to fund the transition.

I do think they should quit putting it off, what better way to get people to actually convert than to kill their TV?

Viper GTS

I wonder if anyone has the morning of 9/11 tivo'd? What you'd realize is that there was no news on television either, other than what you already knew when you tried to access the news sites. Here's a summary of everything from that day: video of 2nd plane hitting, report of plane down in PA, report that another hit the pentagon. Video of 2nd plane every 2 1/2 minutes. Towers fell down. Video of plane switched to every other 2 1/2 minutes, video of towers falling every 2 1/2 minutes in between. The rest of the time was nothing but speculation, not facts.

Quality of reporting and/or availability of information aside, millions can watch a TV show at once with no detrimental impact. The same cannot be said for the internet, where a simple post on slashdot can take down a smaller site and a major news event can take down even the largest sites.

Viper GTS

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I'd tend to agree, but unfortunately the delay will probably go through Wednesday. I'm assuming only a simple majority will be required (I still don't understand why the bill required a 2/3 majority the first time through the House).

The delaying bill died at the Senate and not in the House. The only reason I can think off is that some politicians had not made enough money yet for the switch!