For the gym go-ers

[Keego]

I run 5k and bike 10k every day, but I don't lift at all. I'm trying to lose ~20lbs of fat first.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I've been into bodybuilding since the begining of the year. I train 4-5 days a week and I spend over $150/month on supplements. I've gained some lean mass since, so you could say I am fairly serious about the sport.

I'm currently 5'11 and I weigh 195 lbs. But I can't run for more than a few minutes without losing breath. I can sprint, but I can't run long distances.

I wouldn't say 4-5 months is serious. You're probably experiencing beginner's gains, wait another 6 months when you hit a plateau.

And if you can't run more than a little while before losing breath, that means you're not in good cardiovascular shape. I don't care how you try to slice/dice it. People need to realize that being athletic/getting in shape involves both aerobic and anaerobic excercise, you're cheating yourself by not trying to get better at both.

Granted I'm not that great at running - I don't think I could ever do a half marathon or a full, but I don't make excuses, I try to get better at running.

I agree with you, you can have a muscular body, but without cardiovascular health, you are not in shape. I have been bulking lately, not worrying much about cardio. My only concern at this time is gaining as much weight as I can before I start cutting in a month.

And I dont think my gains are associated with beginer's gains. I weightlifted frequently a year ago, then I stopped, and only recently did I get very serious about it. Some of the gains I've gotten back are the result of muscle memory. The rest is hard work and supplementation.

True. What was your beginning weight before you started a year ago? And supplementation - while necessary to an extent for building muscle, is largely overdone nowadays. I'm just not a fan of people saying "I have to have supplement X, Y, and Z". I used to be huge into supplements, but I just realized its a huge drain on the wallet when considering once you get off the majority of them, you lose a lot of your size. I'm pretty happy now with just protein powder and Glutamine. I'm looking more at maintaining size b/c the women are pretty happy (5'10", 172lbs). But good luck with lifting weights and gaining mass. I started at the end of freshman year of college - 140lbs dripping wet. It's definitely a confidence booster and a lifelong thing to make yourself better.

 

[jread]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Um, do you have any idea what you're talking about?

Actually, he's correct. If you strengthen your leg muscles, then the shin splints will go away. Mine were gone quickly once I started doing some squats/lunges.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I've been into bodybuilding since the begining of the year. I train 4-5 days a week and I spend over $150/month on supplements. I've gained some lean mass since, so you could say I am fairly serious about the sport.

I'm currently 5'11 and I weigh 195 lbs. But I can't run for more than a few minutes without losing breath. I can sprint, but I can't run long distances.

I wouldn't say 4-5 months is serious. You're probably experiencing beginner's gains, wait another 6 months when you hit a plateau.

And if you can't run more than a little while before losing breath, that means you're not in good cardiovascular shape. I don't care how you try to slice/dice it. People need to realize that being athletic/getting in shape involves both aerobic and anaerobic excercise, you're cheating yourself by not trying to get better at both.

Granted I'm not that great at running - I don't think I could ever do a half marathon or a full, but I don't make excuses, I try to get better at running.

I agree with you, you can have a muscular body, but without cardiovascular health, you are not in shape. I have been bulking lately, not worrying much about cardio. My only concern at this time is gaining as much weight as I can before I start cutting in a month.

And I dont think my gains are associated with beginer's gains. I weightlifted frequently a year ago, then I stopped, and only recently did I get very serious about it. Some of the gains I've gotten back are the result of muscle memory. The rest is hard work and supplementation.

True. What was your beginning weight before you started a year ago? And supplementation - while necessary to an extent for building muscle, is largely overdone nowadays. I'm just not a fan of people saying "I have to have supplement X, Y, and Z". I used to be huge into supplements, but I just realized its a huge drain on the wallet when considering once you get off the majority of them, you lose a lot of your size. I'm pretty happy now with just protein powder and Glutamine. I'm looking more at maintaining size b/c the women are pretty happy (5'10", 172lbs). But good luck with lifting weights and gaining mass. I started at the end of freshman year of college - 140lbs dripping wet. It's definitely a confidence booster and a lifelong thing to make yourself better.

About a little over a year ago, when I was consistently lifting, I reached a weight of 185lbs. When I started back up some months ago, I weighed about the same. So, I've gained 10 lbs. And I agree with you again, supplementation does burn your wallet and it is overdone in the gym. Infact, it is a bit addicting too. I find myself spending plenty of time researching and trying to discover the next supplement to cycle.

Of course, Im consistent with my multivitamin, and my whey protein. But I also have been cycling other products like Nitric Oxide and testosterone boosters.

Right now, my stack includes a workout pump supp, and a safe hormonal supp and a testoserone supp.

 

[Whisper]

I generally go through cycles with cardio, although I haven't done any on a regular basis for maybe a year or so now. Used to jog for 15-20 minutes at the end of my workouts, but I just lost too much weight doing that. But with lifting weights at the pace I do 5 times a week, I figure that at least helps keep my heart in some kind of decent shape. I can still play a game of football without feeling like I need to throw up

Then again, because of the fact that I don't take any supplements (protein included), I'm close to my "natural" weight at 165 lbs or so, which keeps me pretty lean and light.

 

[Maximilian]

For those that jog for 20+ minutes. Do you actually jog the whole time or jog then walk then jog then walk etc dependant on how you feel?