155? Damn dude, you're a rail! Eat a few more of those burgers, you'll need some fat come wintertime. 
Americans are'nt overweight because we eat too much meat. It's because we use way too much dressing on our salad. And then wash it all down with way too much beer.
rudder
Lifer
- Nov 9, 2000
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I have heard people talk about old-timers who ate nothing but eggs and bacon their entire lives and lived to be 97. Maybe the fact that they were around before hormones were widely used might explain why so many of them lived so long.
The reason they lived so long is cause they actually worked for a living. 99% of the people here sit on thier asses all day (including me unfortunately). Thats why they get fat.
The reason they lived so long is cause they actually worked for a living. 99% of the people here sit on thier asses all day (including me unfortunately). Thats why they get fat.
" NuclearNed "
<< For the record, I am a meat lover. >>
...
true very true, my grandfather used to eat 3 eggs fried in the grease from the bacon he cooked, with oatmeal and toast almost every day for breakfast until he pasted away at 98. He was a meat lover - steak, Hamburgers, ribs you name it. He was never over wieght and in good shape , I think that runs in my family I can eat just about anything and not gain hardly any wieght(5'11" 178lbs), but I do "try" to eat healthy when I can and when I have the time.
<< For the record, I am a meat lover. >>
...
true very true, my grandfather used to eat 3 eggs fried in the grease from the bacon he cooked, with oatmeal and toast almost every day for breakfast until he pasted away at 98. He was a meat lover - steak, Hamburgers, ribs you name it. He was never over wieght and in good shape , I think that runs in my family I can eat just about anything and not gain hardly any wieght(5'11" 178lbs), but I do "try" to eat healthy when I can and when I have the time.
<< 155? Damn dude, you're a rail! Eat a few more of those burgers, you'll need some fat come wintertime.
>>word... it's the bone structure... I put on close to 20lbs lifting weights for a few months last year but lost most of it being lazy the rest of the year... started again last month though...
sandorski
No Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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Hmm, though I somewhat agree that the environment would benefit if we ate less beef, I think changing our eating habits is more important for other reasons.
Many have already mentioned how we *can* eat a lot of meat and be healthy, of that I have little doubt. The problem isn't the amount of meat(or cholesterol(sp)) we consume, it is our lifestyle(also mentioned). If we eat like our grand-fathers, we best be doing what our grand-fathers were doing. If we are not, we will get fat, no need to discuss any further.
My grand-father also ate a lot. He was originally from Germany, so his diet wasn't the typical North American diet. Breakfast consisted of toast(buttered), cereal(hot or cold), juice, milk, coffee, eggs, bacon and/or sausage, stewed fruit or jam. I kid you not, eating at his house was like going to a banquet, at home it was a bowl(maybe 2) of cereal.
Lunch: Usually consisted of leftovers from supper(dinner) from the night(s) before. Often the leftovers were slightly altered from their original state, such as potatoes and vegetables mixed together and fried or meat put into sandwhiches, but lunch always had 3-4 different foods from most of the food groups.
Supper(dinner): 5-6 choices. Meat was always part of the meal, though not necessarily the main part.
A tossed salad made from fresh garden vegetables, leaf lettuce(not that crap "Iceberg" so called lettuce), fresh picked tomatoes, fresh picked cucumbers, green onions (fp), radish(fp), a hard boiled egg or some other variety of ingredients, to top that off some exquisite homemade salad dressing(if you haven't guessed by now, I loved those salads).
There were always at least 3 vegetables, string beans, broccolli, stewed tomatoes, peas, carrots, beets, turnips, squash, spinach, basically any vegetable you could imagine would eventually be served some night.
Meat: The meat could be almost anything. My grand-father had taught his 3 sons how to hunt when they were younger, so my uncles were constantly giving my grand-father meat. Venison, moose, caribou, elk, grouse, and various freshwater fish were as normal as chicken, beef, or pork. Eating at my grand-fathers house(although the credit must go to my grand-mother for cooking all this day-in-day-out for 50+ years) was always an adventure for me, a memory I hold dear(he passed away 2.5 years ago at the age of 90).
My point? Not only did my grand-father work hard all his life(even after he gave up his farm, he bought an orchard, after giving up that, he always kept a large garden and yard, he always was doing something physical), but he didn't eat crap! Go ahead, eat meat, but if you don't eat your veggies, your meat is always in the form of a burger and fries are your veggies, or you sit on your butt all day you are going to get fat and die!(prematurely that is)
It should be noted that there are even stories of smokers and drinkers who lived long healthy lives. The problem seems to go beyond certain things being bad for you. It seems that a lifestyle is associated with healthy or non-healthy living.
Many have already mentioned how we *can* eat a lot of meat and be healthy, of that I have little doubt. The problem isn't the amount of meat(or cholesterol(sp)) we consume, it is our lifestyle(also mentioned). If we eat like our grand-fathers, we best be doing what our grand-fathers were doing. If we are not, we will get fat, no need to discuss any further.
My grand-father also ate a lot. He was originally from Germany, so his diet wasn't the typical North American diet. Breakfast consisted of toast(buttered), cereal(hot or cold), juice, milk, coffee, eggs, bacon and/or sausage, stewed fruit or jam. I kid you not, eating at his house was like going to a banquet, at home it was a bowl(maybe 2) of cereal.
Lunch: Usually consisted of leftovers from supper(dinner) from the night(s) before. Often the leftovers were slightly altered from their original state, such as potatoes and vegetables mixed together and fried or meat put into sandwhiches, but lunch always had 3-4 different foods from most of the food groups.
Supper(dinner): 5-6 choices. Meat was always part of the meal, though not necessarily the main part.
A tossed salad made from fresh garden vegetables, leaf lettuce(not that crap "Iceberg" so called lettuce), fresh picked tomatoes, fresh picked cucumbers, green onions (fp), radish(fp), a hard boiled egg or some other variety of ingredients, to top that off some exquisite homemade salad dressing(if you haven't guessed by now, I loved those salads).
There were always at least 3 vegetables, string beans, broccolli, stewed tomatoes, peas, carrots, beets, turnips, squash, spinach, basically any vegetable you could imagine would eventually be served some night.
Meat: The meat could be almost anything. My grand-father had taught his 3 sons how to hunt when they were younger, so my uncles were constantly giving my grand-father meat. Venison, moose, caribou, elk, grouse, and various freshwater fish were as normal as chicken, beef, or pork. Eating at my grand-fathers house(although the credit must go to my grand-mother for cooking all this day-in-day-out for 50+ years) was always an adventure for me, a memory I hold dear(he passed away 2.5 years ago at the age of 90).
My point? Not only did my grand-father work hard all his life(even after he gave up his farm, he bought an orchard, after giving up that, he always kept a large garden and yard, he always was doing something physical), but he didn't eat crap! Go ahead, eat meat, but if you don't eat your veggies, your meat is always in the form of a burger and fries are your veggies, or you sit on your butt all day you are going to get fat and die!(prematurely that is)
It should be noted that there are even stories of smokers and drinkers who lived long healthy lives. The problem seems to go beyond certain things being bad for you. It seems that a lifestyle is associated with healthy or non-healthy living.
I think fat people need to work out! I eat 3500 calories a day and 100+ grams of fat and I'm not fat at all...
ive seen overweight vegetiarians.
its dangerous to go vegan when you dont know what you are doing. people need vitamins.
*kat. <-- tries to not eat much meat but unfortuantly likes it alot.
its dangerous to go vegan when you dont know what you are doing. people need vitamins.
*kat. <-- tries to not eat much meat but unfortuantly likes it alot.
<< I think cuteybunny was created just to start this thread and get everyone pissed off >>
Thank you Mr. Obvious.
I for one definatly think vegitarians taste better (wrap them in veal and toss 'em on the BBQ.) Burn baby burn!!!
OS
Lifer
- Oct 11, 1999
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<< "Sorry to hear that because right now I'm eating the most delicious rack of beef back ribs in the entire universe.I spent half a day cooking them on the smoker. Wish you were here." >>
I hate you. Gimme some!
Dammit, if something that moves didn't die for my meal, I know it's going to be a wretched meal. Gimme some f*cking meat!
A rare juicy steak, flash boiled shrimp, fresh cuts of sashimi, heck the less the meat has been cooked, the better! Yes I am an uncouth savage
<< tries to not eat much meat but unfortuantly likes it alot. >>
hehehe, the temptation of the dark side is too hard to resist. . .
More protien then carbs is actually better for ya then the extra protien flows thru your system. If you have more carbs then breaks the protien into fatty and body absorbs it.
someone here have a signature that says "Vegetables are not food, vegetables are what food eats" wiser words could have never been said
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