For playing at 1920x1200, is a X1900XT or a 7900GTX enough?

[FalllenAngell]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: nib95
Guys, I think loads of you are silly for turning every thread in to a war of sorts.
It's just sad and pathetic and its making the Anand forums a depressing place to post.

Also, Joker, not being funny or trying to encite any kind of negativity, but why are you advertising only ATI, or advertising ATI at all in your sig?
You cant expect to take the layman ordinary forum poster to take your posts seriously or without bias if you have that kind of sig.

I answered that question above but I'll repost it: My sig offers great deals on the best cards on the market. It's not my problem that nVidia has cards that cost more and have less features with eye poking needle AF. If nVidia had technological and IQ parity at a matching pricepoint, I'd be "pimping" their cards too - much like I did when 7800 GTX was the dominant card.

Fair enough, if you think that.
But I have to wholy disagree on the "eye poking needle AF" comment.
Thats taken way out of proportion.
And as an owner of both SLI 7900 GT's, and an X1900 XTX, 6800 Ultra and 9700 Pro (un-biased) I can vouch for that.

Unfortunatley your vouching for nVidia doesn't change the facts that their hardware has terrible shimmering/crawling in many popular games and lacks angle independent AF - respected websites like bit-tech have noted the IQ disparity and even nV's own mouthpiece HardOCP had to admit it. I too have a 6800 Go Ultra, had a 7800 GTX and now an X1900 XTX and on my 20" LCD, the differences are readily apparent. I'm getting a 7900 Go (whenever it's released) for my XPS 2 so I'll gladly do another FRAPs video like I did in the past with my 7800 GTX to show just how poor it's AF can be.

You keep saying that, but what you leave out is:
1. They only noticed it on two MMORG games, and said they didn't on the rest.
2. They said they never noticed it before they got a Dell 2405 monitor.

Quite the difference, wouldn't you say?

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTAwMSwxOCwsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=">http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTAwMSwxOCwsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=</a>

Way to spread on the FUD, 5150.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTAwMSwxMywsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=
Here ya go. Benchmarks ran on the 2405. This should give you the best indication.

OP should also be aware HardOCP's review results were quite different than most other reputable sites and is a known nV mouthpiece.

You are a known ATI troll, should that be noted to? :roll:

Cherrypicking benchmarks from a french site may make you feel better, but the article I listed specifically tested on his same monitor at the resolution he was looking for. If your company looks bad because it can't keep up that is your issue.

You are known for Nvidia troll :!

 

[Woofmeister]

To get back on topic :roll:

Guru3d is now running lots of benchmarks at 1920x1200. An excellent review of all current cards here. Nice to know my current overclocked 7800GT SLI configuration beats a stock 7900GT SLI solution in F.E.A.R. easily. I wonder how I'd do with the other benchmarks at 1920x1200.

 

[tuteja1986]

I don't trust Guru3d. Nvidia has to many fanboy website these days. Rage 3D , Fring squad , Xbit labs and few other website are trustable now days.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
I don't trust Guru3d. Nvidia has to many fanboy website these days. Rage 3D , Fring squad , Xbit labs and few other website are trustable now days.

Going by your standard those must be ATI fanboy sites :roll:

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
I don't trust Guru3d. Nvidia has to many fanboy website these days. Rage 3D , Fring squad , Xbit labs and few other website are trustable now days.

Going by your standard those must be ATI fanboy sites :roll:

lol get a life :! ATI fanboy website are like : Driver heaven ...ect

your a joke for calling XBIT labs a ATI fanboy website :!

 

[Madellga]

I didn't have much time to check the reviews provided, maybe later today.

But I saw this one:

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3335&s=20

It says a 7900GT SLI is not worth it, ie, you can't raise the bar.

On the other hand, it does the trick running a 7600GT SLI or GTX SLI.

 

[firewolfsm]

get to 7900GTs and OC them to near GTX levels in SLI!

 

[RobertR1]

A single x1900xtx seems to handle by gaming needs on the 2405 quite well. So far, on all games I can turn on atleast 2x Quality Adaptive AA and 16xHQAF which seems to give me a very crisp, clear picture. It's enough for my needs.

The fan noise is only noticeable if I don't have my TV on or use headphones then again, my keyboard and mouse clicks are noticeable at that point also : )

 

[Elfear]

I'm using the same monitor as you and with my card at 725/850, which isn't too hard to achieve on the cards that I've seen, I play all my games at 1920x1200. Fear and COD2 I run with 2AA/8AF. HL2, CS:Source, Guild Wars, FarCry (i actually run this game at 6AA/8AF with HDR no problem), UT2004, and all my other games I run at 6AA/16AF (when that option is available). The only time I believe you'd see slow-down (I say believe becuase I haven't experienced it yet) is if you play FEAR or COD2 online. I've never tried them online but if they're like other multiplayer games where you need all the fps you can get than you'd probably have to run with no AA to make it smooth.

The cheapest 7900GTs I could find in stock were $315 shipped at Newegg and they were clocked at the Nvidia reference clocks. So for a pair your talking $630. Newegg also has a X1900XT in for $450 shipped. I guess it depends on how much money you want to spend but the GT's are almost $200 more and I personally think an X1900XT with a decent oc will serve your needs just fine.

 

[Madellga]

I just finished looking at all the links provided. I actually liked the Guru3d review, with all types of games and details cranked to max.

Very nice also to see that a pair of GTX will get bottlenecked in most games - except for FEAR and Splinter Cell 3.

It seems that a single GTX can run most games at 1920x1200 at 4AA 8AF. If it chokes, just take something out.

I don't feel like spending 500 extra bucks for a few games. I should sacrifice the goodies and spare the money. In 6 months a new card will come and I hate myself for spending a 1000 bucks on something that could have waited.

One GTX will have to suffice......

I will probably return the second GTX tomorrow (the store has a 7 day return policy, no questions asked). It is hard to give up but I feel it is the right and responsible thing to do.

Thanks everybody for the feedback and provided links, it was very helpful

 

[Madellga]

It was very hard, but I did it yesterday. The second card is gone

They had available the 7900GT vanilla from XFX, but I didn't go for it. I think for 1920x1200 the 512MB advantage will be more important in the long run.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Madellga
My wife told me to keep both cards, so I would not waste more time.....It is not a wise suggestion, it is like telling a kid to have chocolate for dinner......

Listen to your wife. Not only do you get to keep the cards, but it was her idea :thumbsup:

Despite the arguments between 5150 and myself, the links provided should give you an overall outlook of what to expect. The Hardocp article does have minimum and average fps listed and was tested on the Dell 2405.

The HardOCP review should not be taken seriously, the reuslts simply do not match every other review site. For instance the 7900 GT beating out an X1900 XTX in FEAR?
That's ridiculous, this is coming from an owner of both cards.
HardOCP's review is extremely bias, and I suggest you do not base your views on it.

The 7900GT did not beat out the X1900XTX, they were benched at different resolutions.

The 7900GT was grouped with the mid-range cards.

dear god whats the world coming to when a 7900gt is classifed as midrange 0_o