For organic chem, what did you memorize/flashcard?

[James3shin]

would just like some input on what to start flash carding/memorizing, thanks.

here is a link to what the orgo curriculum is like:

Link

 

[notfred]

I didn't take it.

 

[minendo]

All reaction mechanisms including products, reactants, and anything else necessary to make the reaction occur.

 

[James3shin]

thanks minendo! you a chemist?

 

[dionx]

o-chem isn't about memorizing. it's about problem solving.

 

[YetioDoom]

basically everything

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: James3shin
thanks minendo! you a chemist?

Nope, but my degree required 1 year inorganic, 1 year food chem, 1 year organic, and 1 semester of analytical chem.

 

[James3shin]

Problem solving? Similar to finding out the best method to integrate something in calc2? I don't see how orgo or chem in general is "problem solving." Care to ease my curiosity?

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: dionx
o-chem isn't about memorizing. it's about problem solving.

Yeah Biochem in about memorizing.Krebs cycle == teh suck

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: dionx
o-chem isn't about memorizing. it's about problem solving.

Memorizing the reaction mechanisms makes it a hell of a lot easier than just trying to solve a given reaction.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: James3shin
Problem solving? Similar to finding out the best method to integrate something in calc2? I don't see how orgo or chem in general is "problem solving." Care to ease my curiosity?

He is just being a putz.Anyone who has taken O-chem knows you have to memorize some material.

P-chem is the problem solving class.

 

[Siva]

Memorize the mechanisms and common reactants, you should be able to figure out products if you know the mechanisms. You need to know what electrophiles and nucleophiles are. Also its good to know common solvents, and the difference between polar, protic and aprotic. MOST IMPORTANTLY pay attention to how electrons move.

I can't think of anything else. Everyone said orgo was hard, I didn't think so. I took all the tests high for two semesters and got an A-. Of course I probably could've pulled an A with more sobriety. Next semester imma burn down analytical!


Applying chemistry in industry is all about problem solving. But as far as ochem goes, the most problem solving your gonna do is being given a set of reactants and be required to find the final product or draw a mechanism.

 

[James3shin]

I have heard that P-chem is somewhat math involved, specifically calc3. But thanks for the info so far folks.

 

[virtueixi]

Originally posted by: James3shin
Problem solving? Similar to finding out the best method to integrate something in calc2? I don't see how orgo or chem in general is "problem solving." Care to ease my curiosity?

Best method to synthesize the molecule with several different options(reactions) avaliable. In your case any working option is the best option since in organic chemistry they don't really care about cost/percent yield too much. GL!

 

[James3shin]

nice Siva. Not that I support getting blazed and taking exams or anything, but awesome work acing the exams.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: James3shin
I have heard that P-chem is somewhat math involved, specifically calc3. But thanks for the info so far folks.

P-chem is essentially quantum mechanics/thermodynamics.
If your math is weak you will be crushed.I mean crushed hard.

 

[dionx]

it's weird. in terms of difficulty for me from easiest to hardest it was:
p.chem ==> a.chem ==> i.chem ==> o.chem

i think most people say p.chem is wayy harder than o.chem.

but about problem solving in o.chem: if you don't work on problems, your memorization via flash cards is useless. a good majority of people can't take something they've memorized and apply it to problems. memorizing is like cramming, your ability to do problems is severly handicapp if you were to study and understand instead.

 

[James3shin]

I hear what you're saying dionx. I just wanted to get a headstart on things I will probably be memorizing sometime later down the road. I'll be reading my book along the way. I also posted a link to what the curriculum should be similar to, above in the OP.

 

[handoverfist]

I think o.chem is a fine art. My synthesis' are all masterpieces... haha


one of the few classes in college that challanged me!