For once going in to work does not feel like hell

[sze5003]

now also gaming will be great.

No gaming lol just work I have my own pc for gaming at home.

 

[Broheim]

Yeah it used to be at my last company, oh your pc is slow, well what do you prefer ? Mac, faster processor, a laptop. Lol, now it's clear internet cache, reboot. Oh and before you leave today run disk cleanup.

I hated that one....by the time I got in the next day it was still cleaning !

I dabble with lots of midtier and ui code / packages. I'm also doing prod support so we have a set standard to fix a certain number of defects per day or week depending how hard they are or how lazy the project teams were when they designed this stuff.

All clunky java and jsp, XHTML and custom components this isn't visual studio where shit gets created by tweaking settings and dragging stuff on a page.

There are too many employees to allow everyone to install stuff. I do have admin access but they have all types of monitoring software. It's a financial investment firm so it's understandable they don't want to take risks.

which server do you use for JSP if you don't mind me asking?

 

[sze5003]

They use IBM WebSphere and an ide from IBM too. Although they may not renew all licenses most of us still use it.

 

[Broheim]

They use IBM WebSphere and an ide from IBM too. Although they may not renew all licenses most of us still use it.

at least you don't have to deal with glassfish then... god I hate glassfish.

it's not slow or anything but sometimes it just stops working and needs a reinstall and that gets really old really fast (especially when it stops working right before you have to take an exam on JSP...).

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

 

[sze5003]

WebSphere stops working all the time too. I just started the server and its hung again. Takes a few good tries and there isnt really anything I can configure or reinstall...that's what sucks.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Srsly though, fuck coding jobs =/

I can't tell if thats all you guys have (web developer or simply coding?) but I wouldn't be able to handle that shit all day.


I can see network admin, database work, etc... but coding makes me run.

 

[sze5003]

Srsly though, fuck coding jobs =/

I can't tell if thats all you guys have (web developer or simply coding?) but I wouldn't be able to handle that shit all day.


I can see network admin, database work, etc... but coding makes me run.

Database admin will involve coding SQL or oracle. Not all companies use the visual tool to setup and manage tables.

Yeah it's stressfull but it pays well and there are many opportunities.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Is SQL REALLY coding? It's just querying a database - it doesn't get much more complex. Coding seems a lot more harsh.

 

[purbeast0]

Is SQL REALLY coding? It's just querying a database - it doesn't get much more complex. Coding seems a lot more harsh.

never heard of stored procedures?

you are naive if you think database queries can't get complex.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

never heard of stored procedures?

you are naive if you think database queries can't get complex.

Don't take offense broceritops. I know it gets fairly complex, but does it get as long as a huge ass program coding project?

And yes, I do know of stored procedures. Essentially an executable/cached query, no? What is the usual basis for using a stored procedure over a simply query anyhow?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[purbeast0]

Don't take offense broceritops. I know it gets fairly complex, but does it get as long as a huge ass program coding project?

And yes, I do know of stored procedures. Essentially an executable/cached query, no? What is the usual basis for using a stored procedure over a simply query anyhow?

Inquiring minds want to know.

no one's offended, and no on eknows wtf a broceritops is.

stored procedures are basically functions that have logic in them and can get very complex.

and 99.9% of the time anything db related is tied to a "huge ass program coding project" you don't simply have databases out there that aren't linked to a system. it's simply part of the puzzle to the "huge ass program coding project".

 

[sze5003]

Don't take offense broceritops. I know it gets fairly complex, but does it get as long as a huge ass program coding project?

And yes, I do know of stored procedures. Essentially an executable/cached query, no? What is the usual basis for using a stored procedure over a simply query anyhow?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Stored procedures are used to send and return data to and from an application using web services. Makes development a lot easier than writing manual queries for everything. You wrote the query once and use it anywhere you want, pass in variables and data the way you want.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Stored procedures are used to send and return data to and from an application using web services. Makes development a lot easier than writing manual queries for everything. You wrote the query once and use it anywhere you want, pass in variables and data the way you want.

Ok - but anything in a stored procedure can be used as a simple manual query, correct?

The benefit is simply that it is executable and can be used in codes such as VB to extract and return data at a mouse click?

 

[sze5003]

Ok - but anything in a stored procedure can be used as a simple manual query, correct?

The benefit is simply that it is executable and can be used in codes such as VB to extract and return data at a mouse click?

If you want to be simple, yes but some stored procedures are 200 lines or more. When you involve updating thousands or records in a table, plus send data to other systems , your query will be cumbersome.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

If you want to be simple, yes but some stored procedures are 200 lines or more. When you involve updating thousands or records in a table, plus send data to other systems , your query will be cumbersome.

Gotcha. Yeah... uhhh...we didn't quite get that complex in my database systems class

Trying to get my foot in the door for that type of position.

 

[sze5003]

Gotcha. Yeah... uhhh...we didn't quite get that complex in my database systems class

Trying to get my foot in the door for that type of position.

Well you will be on call all the time as a dba. It's stressful depending how each place has it set up.

 

[BUTCH1]

ugh, that sucks. when a company does that to developers it says to me: "we do not trust you"

I've never heard of ANY company that lets you install software on a machine but that's where an old game like Quake 3 comes in handy, I keep it on a thumb drive for the rare days I have time to kill..

 

[Kev]

8gb of memory on 32 bit xp

lol

 

[Ausm]

I dare you to say that after working at the same place for more than 20 years.

 

[sze5003]

I dare you to say that after working at the same place for more than 20 years.

I can't imagine that but well see haha

 

[BurnItDwn]

Ehh, I have a crappy pc, but it's only a pain due to having to use outlook and other crappy applications.

That said, 90% of the time, I'm working with C, ksh, pl/sql, perl, or "looking" for something on a Linux, Aix, or Sun box.

Essentially, I'd be fine with an old Pentium 2 or 3 running Slackware

But since we have to use outlook and sharepoint and remedy and other big enterprise "tools" which really are just Bloatware which has been marketed well, so I need a new pc too.