For myocardia & Duvie

[EdzAviator]

I've posted this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2130788&enterthread=y

And I've replies to your comments...

Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: EdzAviator
<<<why can't intel standardized their socket platform like amd..current AM2 are still compatible with Phenom....Am2+ are compatible with upcoming 45nm AMD..
future AM3 proc are also compatible w/ AM2+ mobos coz AM3 proc hav DDR2 & DDR3 controller...


Yeah, you're right, AMD has only had three mandatory chipset changes in the past 2½ years, with the fourth coming in the next 6 months. And how many has Intel had in the last 2½ years? Oh that's right, they've had two that were mandatory. Wow, Intel sucks compared to AMD, don't they?


I'm not talking all about sockets...Its upgradability that matters...If AMD can just drop in Phenom(AM2+) on AM2 mobo then why can't INTEL do that..??? If AMD can make future Phenom(AM3) have DDR2 & DDR3 on the same chip so that you can drop in any time on any AM2+ mobo then why can't intel do that...???

It's ok that intel change socket for nehalem but a 3 socket for 1 the same processor is absurd...Why can't they make a nehalem with that supports both DDR2 & DDR3 so that if you ugrade to a DDR3, you wouldn't have to change both mobo & processor (you can simply buy a DDR3 mobo for nehalem & DDR3 ram but retain the processor)..??

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Think about it this way...

INtel created a whole new direction to that of the P4 with Core 2 Duo architecture yet they didn't require a sckt change.....AMD changed the sckt with their 65nm architecture and what did they get out of it? No headroom, no performance increase and even a lacluster phenom release...

I can go to newegg right now and buy a motherboard that is capable of running intel chips from Pentium 4, Pentium EE, Pentium D, celeron D, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, and have future support for 45nm C2Q.....What does amd have to offer of similar longevity?



yeah they did not change socket but they require diffrent revisions for C2D..
I bought Pentium D 805 before and MSI 945G but as soon as C2D came out, its not compatible because it needs revision...where's the upgradability in that..??
Also bought Gigabyte 965P-S3 for my C2D 4300 before but the revision is not compatible with 45nm Peryn..so I just recently upgraded it to Asus P5K and currently waiting for Peryn..

 

[Capt Caveman]

PM them and don't create these threads again.

 

[j0j081]

LOL. Now you are really cracking me up!

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: EdzAviator


It's ok that intel change socket for nehalem but a 3 socket for 1 the same processor is absurd...Why can't they make a nehalem with that supports both DDR2 & DDR3 so that if you ugrade to a DDR3, you wouldn't have to change both mobo & processor (you can simply buy a DDR3 mobo for nehalem & DDR3 ram but retain the processor)..??

Yes because we all know that AMD's integrated mem controller supports both DDR and DDR2..oh wait..

 

[sutahz]

My name is EdzAviator, I'll create a new thread whenever I have a new question/comment. I have so much money I can build mulitple systems for myself and prove to myself and you guyz that X2>C2D. I claim I'm not a fanboy but of all the posts I've ever made I constantly cut down Intel and have never cut down AMD in the slightest. I want Intel to do exactly like AMD (becuz they rulez) and if they don't then I will post 1M more threads on here until someone at Intel reads them and agree's w/ me, until then I will not be happy. I claim I don't care about sockets even though that was the main point of a ealier post, but now I'm going to claim all I care about is upgradeability even though the foundation of a computer is the motherboard (chipset) and the power supply, but since it was shown to me that simply being able to drop in a newer/faster cpu isn't the cure-all I thought it would be, now I'm going to say some more retarded crap to try and prove to you all AMD is better then Intel. I'm complaining about 3 sockets for the Nehalem because I'm such a hardware/benchmark/snapiness freak that I'm going to have to buy all 3 and post lots of crap on this and probley 18 other forums. I love to complain about things, ESPECICALLY things that aren't even released yet and things that are subjective for the most part (snapiness). In every post I'll say I'm not a fanboy, I'll tell you all the systems I've had, to PROVE to you I'm not a fanboy [sutahz is a AMD fanboy, yet he has a Q6600, how can that be? Oh wait, when Intel makes a great chip and you want the best bang for your buck, you do have to 'switch camps']. Also what I want is a time machine basically, because now AMD is making it so you can drop any of their new CPU's into their relatively new socket (AM2) and also into their new sockets (AM2+ and AM3) which all this has happened in the recent past, but Intel didn't do this so I have to complain that the Gigabyte motherboard I bought can't upgrade to the new Peryn, so I bought a P5K which won't be able to upgrade to Nehalem which I'll post 5,000 more posts complaining about that. So since I agree and like what AMD is doing, I think/know Intel should do it in the past, present and future because Intel is dumb, and AMD & I are the mostest awesomest-o team in the galaxy, universe probley. I can even say crap like "yeah they did not change socket but they require diffrent revisions for C2D.." and still leave out the fact AM3 processors won't perform at their best in a AM2 socket. I'd write more but I think I'll just start a new thread, read my latest, its AN APOLOGY cuz I'm such an annoying freak, but do note I state I'm not a fanboy, I've owned both types of systems......

 

[theprodigalrebel]

This is called a 'call-out thread' and is against the rules. PM them and/or reply in the threads that originally put your panties in a wad.

See what I did there? It's called a flame. That's all that happens in call-out threads.

 

[aigomorla]

lmao....


no comment...

duvie, and myo, you guys got an admirer.

suprised mark isnt in this group also.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
PM them and don't create these threads again.

I bet he already did... I would tell him to post i the original thread rather then PM

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Yes because we all know that AMD's integrated mem controller supports both DDR and DDR2..oh wait..

Future AMD chips will have memory controllers to support both DDR2 and DDR3.

 

[MegaWorks1]

 

[SickBeast]

OP: Why couldn't you post this in your original thread?

If those guys didn't respond to you, they're probably busy. :light:

Hopefully the mods will be nice to you. :lips:

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: EdzAviator
I'm not talking all about sockets...Its upgradability that matters...If AMD can just drop in Phenom(AM2+) on AM2 mobo then why can't INTEL do that..???

Do you mean like this? Or did you not want anyone to know that trying to run a Phenom on an AM2 board will give you half the performance of an X2?

If AMD can make future Phenom(AM3) have DDR2 & DDR3 on the same chip so that you can drop in any time on any AM2+ mobo then why can't intel do that...???

I haven't read the headline where that has happened yet. Got a link? BTW, in case you haven't noticed, AMD has been doing nothing but making promises, then failing to deliver on said promises for quite awhile now. So, please don't provide some link with AMD making a promise, I just want a link with working silicon.

It's ok that intel change socket for nehalem but a 3 socket for 1 the same processor is absurd.

You'll get no argument from me with that statement. I agree completely, and am hoping that their attempt at this stupidity falls flat on it's face.

Why can't they make a nehalem with that supports both DDR2 & DDR3 so that if you ugrade to a DDR3, you wouldn't have to change both mobo & processor (you can simply buy a DDR3 mobo for nehalem & DDR3 ram but retain the processor)..??

How do you know that they won't? The only Intel motherboard I own can use either DDR2 or DDR3. Got a link to an AMD motherboard with that capability?

 

[zach0624]

Originally posted by: sutahz
My name is EdzAviator, I'll create a new thread whenever I have a new question/comment. I have so much money I can build mulitple systems for myself and prove to myself and you guyz that X2>C2D. I claim I'm not a fanboy but of all the posts I've ever made I constantly cut down Intel and have never cut down AMD in the slightest. I want Intel to do exactly like AMD (becuz they rulez) and if they don't then I will post 1M more threads on here until someone at Intel reads them and agree's w/ me, until then I will not be happy. I claim I don't care about sockets even though that was the main point of a ealier post, but now I'm going to claim all I care about is upgradeability even though the foundation of a computer is the motherboard (chipset) and the power supply, but since it was shown to me that simply being able to drop in a newer/faster cpu isn't the cure-all I thought it would be, now I'm going to say some more retarded crap to try and prove to you all AMD is better then Intel. I'm complaining about 3 sockets for the Nehalem because I'm such a hardware/benchmark/snapiness freak that I'm going to have to buy all 3 and post lots of crap on this and probley 18 other forums. I love to complain about things, ESPECICALLY things that aren't even released yet and things that are subjective for the most part (snapiness). In every post I'll say I'm not a fanboy, I'll tell you all the systems I've had, to PROVE to you I'm not a fanboy [sutahz is a AMD fanboy, yet he has a Q6600, how can that be? Oh wait, when Intel makes a great chip and you want the best bang for your buck, you do have to 'switch camps']. Also what I want is a time machine basically, because now AMD is making it so you can drop any of their new CPU's into their relatively new socket (AM2) and also into their new sockets (AM2+ and AM3) which all this has happened in the recent past, but Intel didn't do this so I have to complain that the Gigabyte motherboard I bought can't upgrade to the new Peryn, so I bought a P5K which won't be able to upgrade to Nehalem which I'll post 5,000 more posts complaining about that. So since I agree and like what AMD is doing, I think/know Intel should do it in the past, present and future because Intel is dumb, and AMD & I are the mostest awesomest-o team in the galaxy, universe probley. I can even say crap like "yeah they did not change socket but they require diffrent revisions for C2D.." and still leave out the fact AM3 processors won't perform at their best in a AM2 socket. I'd write more but I think I'll just start a new thread, read my latest, its AN APOLOGY cuz I'm such an annoying freak, but do note I state I'm not a fanboy, I've owned both types of systems......

/ end thread
oh yeah, and ban(edzaviator).
and by the way PWNed!!!
(this more fun than an OT or P&N thread )

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: sutahz
My name is EdzAviator, I'll create a new thread whenever I have a new question/comment. I have so much money I can build mulitple systems for myself and prove to myself and you guyz that X2>C2D. I claim I'm not a fanboy but of all the posts I've ever made I constantly cut down Intel and have never cut down AMD in the slightest. I want Intel to do exactly like AMD (becuz they rulez) and if they don't then I will post 1M more threads on here until someone at Intel reads them and agree's w/ me, until then I will not be happy. I claim I don't care about sockets even though that was the main point of a ealier post, but now I'm going to claim all I care about is upgradeability even though the foundation of a computer is the motherboard (chipset) and the power supply, but since it was shown to me that simply being able to drop in a newer/faster cpu isn't the cure-all I thought it would be, now I'm going to say some more retarded crap to try and prove to you all AMD is better then Intel. I'm complaining about 3 sockets for the Nehalem because I'm such a hardware/benchmark/snapiness freak that I'm going to have to buy all 3 and post lots of crap on this and probley 18 other forums. I love to complain about things, ESPECICALLY things that aren't even released yet and things that are subjective for the most part (snapiness). In every post I'll say I'm not a fanboy, I'll tell you all the systems I've had, to PROVE to you I'm not a fanboy [sutahz is a AMD fanboy, yet he has a Q6600, how can that be? Oh wait, when Intel makes a great chip and you want the best bang for your buck, you do have to 'switch camps']. Also what I want is a time machine basically, because now AMD is making it so you can drop any of their new CPU's into their relatively new socket (AM2) and also into their new sockets (AM2+ and AM3) which all this has happened in the recent past, but Intel didn't do this so I have to complain that the Gigabyte motherboard I bought can't upgrade to the new Peryn, so I bought a P5K which won't be able to upgrade to Nehalem which I'll post 5,000 more posts complaining about that. So since I agree and like what AMD is doing, I think/know Intel should do it in the past, present and future because Intel is dumb, and AMD & I are the mostest awesomest-o team in the galaxy, universe probley. I can even say crap like "yeah they did not change socket but they require diffrent revisions for C2D.." and still leave out the fact AM3 processors won't perform at their best in a AM2 socket. I'd write more but I think I'll just start a new thread, read my latest, its AN APOLOGY cuz I'm such an annoying freak, but do note I state I'm not a fanboy, I've owned both types of systems......

:thumbsup::laugh:

 

[j0j081]

maybe he has OCD or something and that's why he keeps asking the same thing.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: sutahz
My name is EdzAviator, I'll create a new thread whenever I have a new question/comment. I have so much money I can build mulitple systems for myself and prove to myself and you guyz that X2>C2D. I claim I'm not a fanboy but of all the posts I've ever made I constantly cut down Intel and have never cut down AMD in the slightest. I want Intel to do exactly like AMD (becuz they rulez) and if they don't then I will post 1M more threads on here until someone at Intel reads them and agree's w/ me, until then I will not be happy. I claim I don't care about sockets even though that was the main point of a ealier post, but now I'm going to claim all I care about is upgradeability even though the foundation of a computer is the motherboard (chipset) and the power supply, but since it was shown to me that simply being able to drop in a newer/faster cpu isn't the cure-all I thought it would be, now I'm going to say some more retarded crap to try and prove to you all AMD is better then Intel. I'm complaining about 3 sockets for the Nehalem because I'm such a hardware/benchmark/snapiness freak that I'm going to have to buy all 3 and post lots of crap on this and probley 18 other forums. I love to complain about things, ESPECICALLY things that aren't even released yet and things that are subjective for the most part (snapiness). In every post I'll say I'm not a fanboy, I'll tell you all the systems I've had, to PROVE to you I'm not a fanboy [sutahz is a AMD fanboy, yet he has a Q6600, how can that be? Oh wait, when Intel makes a great chip and you want the best bang for your buck, you do have to 'switch camps']. Also what I want is a time machine basically, because now AMD is making it so you can drop any of their new CPU's into their relatively new socket (AM2) and also into their new sockets (AM2+ and AM3) which all this has happened in the recent past, but Intel didn't do this so I have to complain that the Gigabyte motherboard I bought can't upgrade to the new Peryn, so I bought a P5K which won't be able to upgrade to Nehalem which I'll post 5,000 more posts complaining about that. So since I agree and like what AMD is doing, I think/know Intel should do it in the past, present and future because Intel is dumb, and AMD & I are the mostest awesomest-o team in the galaxy, universe probley. I can even say crap like "yeah they did not change socket but they require diffrent revisions for C2D.." and still leave out the fact AM3 processors won't perform at their best in a AM2 socket. I'd write more but I think I'll just start a new thread, read my latest, its AN APOLOGY cuz I'm such an annoying freak, but do note I state I'm not a fanboy, I've owned both types of systems......

ROFL!! :beer:

I think that pretty much sums up all of EdzAviator's entire recent post history in one shot:laugh:.

 

[Keysplayr]

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