Originally posted by: Gurck
Yep, and this goes for most any player, Apple isn't alone here. Only some Rio and perhaps some Iriver players come with buds which aren't complete crap - and the buds those models come with are barely a step up. Nor is there anything wrong with it; I'd prefer to be left the option to use my headphone and possibly amp of choice rather than getting stuck with something of their choosing, at a price of their choosing. That players ship with the minimum is fine, but let's not let our love of round, red fruit get in the way of an objective opinion